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brassmonkey 09-15-2017 09:50 AM

Japan split over how to deal with North Korean
 
(CNN) - Residents in northern Japan were woken abruptly Friday by blaring air raid sirens signaling a North Korean intermediate-range ballistic missile was about to fly over their heads.
It was the second time in just over two weeks the rogue state had fired a projectile over Japanese territory, a provocation which was immediately condemned by Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.
The missile passed over the northern island of Hokkaido where anxious residents told local media they didn't understand why North Korea was acting so antagonistically.

But CNN's Tokyo producer Yoko Wakatsuki said broader reaction in Tokyo and across national media was more measured.
"People know what North Korea is doing is a little bit of provocation ... they know this is not a direct attack to Japan, it's not an overture to war," CNN Tokyo producer Yoko Wakatsuki said.

But underneath the calm exterior, Friday's launch has widened a growing fault line in the ideological war over how Japan should deal with the North Korean threat to the region.
Abe's government have sought closer ties with the United States while working to change Japan's post- World War Two constitution, to allow the country to actively defend itself against external threats.
But Koichi Nakano, Political Science professor at Sophia University, told CNN Abe's opponents are angry their supposed ally in Washington was making Japan less safe under President Trump and want to soften their ties to the US, while upholding their nation's pacifist values.
"The danger of North Korea has been if anything heightened after Trump came to power (due to) his sometimes really provocative language and tweets. He's not really helping that much," he said.
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2MuchMark 09-15-2017 09:53 AM

I wonder what would happen of UN decided to test a fly-over like that over Guam? Or the US?

pimpmaster9000 09-15-2017 09:57 AM

how about leaving them alone?

Barry-xlovecam 09-15-2017 09:59 AM

I wonder what would happen if a hostile threatening nation shot a ballistic missile over Canada, the UK, Germany or France ... Or, over Russia, China or some other nuclear armed nation?

Get my point?

MrBottomTooth 09-15-2017 10:07 AM

They need carpet-bombed.

Rochard 09-15-2017 10:16 AM

The problem is Japan has a strict policy of "non intervention" and has completely changed itself from what it was at the close of WWII. This has been sixty years of this policy, and they surely do not wish to change it.

At the same time having missiles flying over their country is not acceptable either.

Barry-xlovecam 09-15-2017 10:30 AM

https://www.defensenews.com/breaking...ary-agreement/

Update 2015:
US, Japan Strike New Military Agreement

Sarn 09-15-2017 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22000849)
how about leaving them alone?

it will be boring

CaptainHowdy 09-15-2017 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22001013)
it will be boring

:1orglaugh :2 cents: ...

Bladewire 09-15-2017 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 22000865)
They need carpet-bombed.

Time for some North Korean BBQ :1orglaugh

ilnjscb 09-15-2017 03:30 PM

Clock ticking - we have 16 months

pimpmaster9000 09-15-2017 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22001209)
Clock ticking - we have 16 months

What's in 16 months?

Paul Markham 09-16-2017 03:45 AM

Sanctions against China are the only way.

Sarn 09-16-2017 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22001849)
Sanctions against China are the only way.

The amazing disgrace of our $20T national debt
The amazing disgrace of our $20T national debt | New York Post

China is America's biggest creditor once again
The Treasury Department has ranked China as the biggest foreign creditor to the U.S. for the overwhelming majority of the past nine years.

China's vast holdings of U.S. government debt jumped $44 billion to $1.15 trillion in June, according to U.S. Treasury Department data. That took China above Japan, which offloaded $21 billion in U.S. bonds in the month.
China is America's biggest creditor once again - Aug. 16, 2017

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Barry-xlovecam 09-16-2017 05:54 AM

Old news, America bad Russia good Fuck you :laughing-

Actually, its good because the Chinese Investment can be held 'hostage' at any time :2 cents:

Sarn 09-16-2017 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 22001951)
Old news, America good Russia good Fuck you too :laughing-

Actually, its good because the Chinese Investment can be held 'hostage' at any time :2 cents:

America good Russia good Fuck you too )
After taking "hostage" China's money - it destroys US finance institutions reputation

loreen 09-16-2017 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22001209)
Clock ticking - we have 16 months

The end is coming? :helpme

Barry-xlovecam 09-16-2017 07:26 AM

You won't have to worry about Russia's finance industry's reputation world wide -- CCD rated :P

I think he is counting the days until the US mid-term elections. Often the congressional majority flips to the opposition party in the US.

It's a lose-lose for Trump right now. Either way he will accomplish nothing but rally a lot of Americans to act in anger -- his is a toxic Presidency like Nixon's was.

Nitzer Ebb 09-16-2017 07:40 AM

Why are they not shooting it down? Isn't there NATO ships?

Sarn 09-16-2017 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 22002017)
You won't have to worry about Russia's finance industry's reputation world wide -- CCD rated :P

But USA without me destroy own finance and political sector

Venezuela publishes oil prices in Chinese currency to shun U.S. dollar
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-v...-idUSKCN1BQ2D1

pimpmaster9000 09-16-2017 07:50 AM

Solution to North Korean problem:

Leave them alone...

Sarn 09-16-2017 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22002053)
Solution to North Korean problem:
Leave them alone...

http://s012.radikal.ru/i320/1709/38/51df8358dbc2.jpg
:1orglaugh

Barry-xlovecam 09-16-2017 09:26 AM

Keep poking him with a sharp stick until he fucks up big-time.

He's a troll with a hydrogen bomb and needs to be terminated (<period>)

The Chinese may put a bullet in his head in the end -- wait and see ...

Sarn 09-16-2017 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 22002145)
Keep poking him with a sharp stick until he fucks up big-time.

He's a troll with a hydrogen bomb and needs to be terminated (<period>)

The Chinese may put a bullet in his head in the end -- wait and see ...

:1orglaugh
http://s018.radikal.ru/i510/1709/b6/0d61dee001a5.jpg

brassmonkey 09-16-2017 10:28 AM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22002105)


ilnjscb 09-17-2017 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22001437)
What's in 16 months?

He has internal issues. He will push the envelope too far, and already Iran and others are seeing that he gets away with being a nuclear power. US will be forced to respond. Because democrats nuked our potential good relationship with Russia for political games, US has to go it alone.

We will not be able to back down. Best case is fuck with his country until he does something stupid, then decapitate him. Best case never happens.


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