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wehateporn 10-21-2017 02:30 AM

MMA fighter Nick Catone did an interview about his son being killed by the DTaP vaccine
 

Google Expert 10-21-2017 02:42 AM

Collateral damage.

1 dead / 10,000 saved from potential outbreak.

Deal with it.

wehateporn 10-21-2017 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Google Expert (Post 22044657)
Collateral damage.

1 dead / 10,000 saved from potential outbreak.

Deal with it.

Firstly those studies have never been performed, so we have no idea what the real risk/benefit is, it's purely based on assumption.

Secondly why not push for the vaccines to be made safe, invest in the science rather than continuing with a 1950's level. Instead all the money goes to marketing and lobbying, rather than actually improving the effectiveness and safety of the product.

Google Expert 10-21-2017 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22044667)
we have no idea what the real risk/benefit is

Uh, yes we do. At the start of the 19'th-20'th centuries there were various pandemics killing 100's of millions of people.


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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22044667)
Secondly why not push for the vaccines to be made safe.

Because they can't? Why don't we have hydrogen fusion which is basically unlimited energy source?

I guess scientists they are working on it. Medicine is making steady progress and is able to save more people every day. The downside to this is that Earth is already overpopulated and we already see natural resources and food deficiency.

Ferus 10-21-2017 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22044667)
Firstly those studies have never been performed

Hello Donald Trump :1orglaugh
I dont understand you need to spread these false claims 24/7
Saying shit like that is like saying "there are no water in the oceans"

Just get one of these: https://www.fda.gov/RegulatoryInform...OI/default.htm

Then call them and find the nearest location that fits you need.

I worked for a pharmaceutical giant 5 years, and my wife for 11 years - Both are complieant to FDA regulations.

If a person get as much as a rash and report it to the doctor, its on record. The product can be tracked all the way back to its origins - forever.

They can tell you the name(and driving training) of the truckdriver that took the Palm oil from farm in Ecuador, and drew it to the nearest harbor, Then who loaded it to the ship for Europe, and what NYC tranny brought it back from Barcelona, if he got a reaction to using it... and that is just for make-up.

For Vaccine production they are operating at an exponentially higher level in regards to information depth/detail.

You have no fucking clue how this actually works (and i'm sorry youtube cant teach you that shit in 5 minutes)

wehateporn 10-21-2017 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Google Expert (Post 22044673)
Uh, yes we do. At the start of the 19'th-20'th centuries there were various pandemics killing 100's of millions of people.

Correlation is not causation, those were starving malnourished people living with poor sanitation. In a first world country with good nutrition and high levels of sanitation, childhood viruses like Measles, Mumps, Polio etc won't be an issue.


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Originally Posted by Google Expert (Post 22044673)
Because they can't? Why don't we have hydrogen fusion which is basically unlimited energy source?

They keep refusing to do the necessary studies, it would actually be fairly simple to get them started, but so far the industry has refused, why are they afraid of science and instead wanting to depend on assumption. Afraid of what they will find perhaps.

Unfortunately the industry has taken an anti-science approach with vaccines

grzepa 10-21-2017 03:32 AM

Flat Earth, Killer Vaccines...what's next ?

Ferus 10-21-2017 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22044667)

Secondly why not push for the vaccines to be made safe, invest in the science rather than continuing with a 1950's level. Instead all the money goes to marketing and lobbying, rather than actually improving the effectiveness and safety of the product.


You are like watching a 14 year old kid from youtube on repeat... "invest in the science rather than continuing with a 1950's level" wtf are you on about! Its one of the areas in the world where the most investments are done FFS!!!

Have you ever been to RTP NC? (research triangle park in North C) its home to over 200 companies employing more than 50,000 workers and 10,000 contractors only doing research (estimated 50% IT / 25% pharma / 25% other) Do you know the amout of BILLIONS they invest in research every year?

The amout spend on Genomic Vaccines alone is mindblowing

Or look at Biogen - they spend more than $6 BILLIONS the last few year buying research companies and funding their expansion



But of cource a youtube video told you differently..... so it must be true

wehateporn 10-21-2017 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22044679)
Just get one of these: https://www.fda.gov/RegulatoryInform...OI/default.htm

I worked for a pharmaceutical giant 5 years, and my wife for 11 years - Both are complieant to FDA regulations.

Both the FDA and CDC are industry captured, they are the industry, prioritizing profits over health.

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22044679)
If a person get as much as a rash and report it to the doctor, its on record. The product can be tracked all the way back to its origins - forever.

Doctors are not trained to spot vaccine-induced illnesses which don't occur immediately after the vaccine. Reporting is passive, if you watch the video you'll see how hard it is to have a vaccine-induced death recorded as that.


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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22044679)
For Vaccine production they are operating at an exponentially higher level in regards to information depth/detail.

You are misinformed, it's exactly the opposite. They don't even use real placebos in safety tests, only comparing with other vaccines. Vaccine safety testing is rigged, but their excuse is "we don't have time for proper safety testing, we need to start saving lives!"

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22044679)
You have no fucking clue how this actually works (and i'm sorry youtube cant teach you that shit in 5 minutes)

Two science degrees here and over 10 years spent researching vaccines.

Ferus 10-21-2017 03:52 AM

https://www.zacks.com/stock/news/266...soaring-higher

Tell me again there are no investments in Biotech

wehateporn 10-21-2017 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by grzepa (Post 22044683)
Flat Earth, Killer Vaccines...what's next ?

The science used to back up vaccines is as ridiculous as the flat earth theory

wehateporn 10-21-2017 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22044701)
https://www.zacks.com/stock/news/266...soaring-higher

Tell me again there are no investments in Biotech

They invest in certain areas, but they don't need to invest is researching vaccine safety, they just pay off the media and the doctors, have the system set up so as all vaccine injuries can go down as 'coincidence', ridicule any doctor who speaks out, and brainwash useful idiots to repeat their propaganda.

wehateporn 10-21-2017 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22044685)
You are like watching a 14 year old kid from youtube on repeat... "invest in the science rather than continuing with a 1950's level" wtf are you on about! Its one of the areas in the world where the most investments are done FFS!!!

You are projecting, I'm the one here who's done the actual research, you are simply making assumptions and guessing, along the lines of "it must be, even though I haven't checked".

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22044685)
Have you ever been to RTP NC? (research triangle park in North C) its home to over 200 companies employing more than 50,000 workers and 10,000 contractors only doing research (estimated 50% IT / 25% pharma / 25% other) Do you know the amout of BILLIONS they invest in research every year?

There are many things they can research, but they are definitely not researching vaccine safety, I can confirm, they invest is what's profitable to research, not what will make them a loss and cause compensation payouts.

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22044685)
The amout spend on Genomic Vaccines alone is mindblowing

They only way they will invest in rigorous vaccine safety research is if they are forced too, but at the moment the industry captured regulators don't make them do that. In fact pharma have lobbied to force school children to be vaccinated, thereby taking away health freedom. That is how they work.

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grzepa 10-21-2017 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22044703)
The science used to back up vaccines is as ridiculous as the flat earth theory

You're a scientist ? Or a youtube scientist

Ferus 10-21-2017 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22044699)
Both the FDA and CDC are industry captured, they are the industry, prioritizing profits over health.

There goes the youtube repeater again...



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Doctors are not trained to spot vaccine-induced illnesses which don't occur immediately after the vaccine. Reporting is passive, if you watch the video you'll see how hard it is to have a vaccine-induced death recorded as that.
Who ever told you that? All medical doctors and nurses licensed to practice in the United States receive training on how to administer vaccines. You should take a look at their curriculum - guess, what, it includes? And also ask yourself why a docore almost always ask if a patient "had any vaccines or shots lately" if they feel sick or have a feever...




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You are misinformed, it's exactly the opposite. They don't even use real placebos in safety tests, only comparing with other vaccines. Vaccine safety testing is rigged, but their excuse is "we don't have time for proper safety testing, we need to start saving lives!"
Its simply not how things are done. You may repeate it as often as you like, but it dont become true



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Two science degrees here and over 10 years spent researching vaccines.
Again donald trump, you dont have any science degrees. You forget your real name/ID have already been published here you GFY (and later removed)

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BaldBastard 10-21-2017 04:08 AM

Nick Catone is not a doctor, he a grieving parent looking for a cause or a \blame.

I'm not a doctor either but I'd presume if there was a reaction of any sorts it would be easily detectable.

Thankfully here in Australia vaccinations are all but compulsory now.

Ferus 10-21-2017 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22044729)

I dont want to question your personal hygiene, but do you use deodorant?

Most have a high level of aluminium, and people use ton's each year.

wehateporn 10-21-2017 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by grzepa (Post 22044725)
You're a scientist ? Or a youtube scientist

Started off with an honors degree in science from a top university, then did a Master in science at another top university, left all that for a few years, eventually came back to it reading studies as a hobby, realized something was serious wrong so started spreading awareness

wehateporn 10-21-2017 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22044747)
I dont want to question your personal hygiene, but do you use deodorant?

Most have a high level of aluminum, and people use ton's each year.

I use a natural deodorant with salt, I'm am strongly against deodorants with aluminum in, and even more so against any injectable products which contain aluminum

Ferus 10-21-2017 04:11 AM

Ran our of arguments yourself, so you had to go back to posting youtube video?

No wonder you dont have a wife. As soon as she questioned you, you would run to her with an iPad and run a video in her face...

Ferus 10-21-2017 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22044749)
Started off with an honors degree in science from a top university, then did a Master in science at another top university, left all that for a few years, eventually came back to it reading studies as a hobby, realized something was serious wrong so started spreading awareness

There you go again... no you dont. Your name was published before (and you ran to Sly and had him remove it)

wehateporn 10-21-2017 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22044745)
Nick Catone is not a doctor, he a grieving parent looking for a cause or a \blame.

I'm not a doctor either but I'd presume if there was a reaction of any sorts it would be easily detectable.

Thankfully here in Australia vaccinations are all but compulsory now.

His wife has a science degree, she is the one who's made the connection, not him.

His son had known harm caused by a vaccine, but he was let down by the doctors, but it isn't over yet.

Ferus 10-21-2017 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22044749)
Started off with an honors degree in science from a top university, then did a Master in science at another top university, left all that for a few years, eventually came back to it reading studies as a hobby, realized something was serious wrong so started spreading awareness

Yeah, Saving the world.. one Copy/past topic at a AdultWebmaterforum at the time... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You can add Nobel Price winner to your linkedin profile soon as well

BaldBastard 10-21-2017 04:16 AM

This is where your tube vids are coming from
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https://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/20...ce-in-jamaica/

Earlier this year, a conference was held in Jamaica. The declared subject: vaccine safety. Even from the beginning, it was clear that this was no ordinary scientific conference. It had all the signs of a junket. A meet-and-greet for vaccine ?skeptics? and wealthy patrons. Precisely the sort of junket that people complain about ?Big Pharma? hosting. Well, not precisely. I suspect even Big Pharma doesn?t put on such a lavish event.
The number of speakers was small (only 19), and didn?t include anyone who is a vaccine researcher. 21 presentations were made in the course of a week, leaving a lot of time for people to enjoy the resort and to network.

--

wehateporn 10-21-2017 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22044759)
There you go again... no you dont. Your name was published before (and you ran to Sly and had him remove it)

No idea what you're talking about, I've never asked Sly to remove anything, I couldn't give a damn if people know my name is Peter Johnson, some losers post people's names thinking it helps them to win an argument, it doesn't, it only shows that you know you're losing it by taking such a childish attitude.

grzepa 10-21-2017 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22044749)
Started off with an honors degree in science from a top university, then did a Master in science at another top university, left all that for a few years, eventually came back to it reading studies as a hobby, realized something was serious wrong so started spreading awareness

Alright then, good luck with spreading the awareness on an adult webmaster forum. I think it's bit unfair for you to sit there, free of diseases that in the past killed or made lot of people seriously sick and spread the awareness like that. Gotta trust someone, I'm not scientist and I choose to trust that vaccines do more good than harm, and my children definitely gonna get them.

wehateporn 10-21-2017 04:18 AM

Your link is to an pharmaceutical spin site, watch the videos yourself and see if you think the experts are making it up

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22044767)
This is where your tube vids are coming from
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https://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/20...ce-in-jamaica/

Earlier this year, a conference was held in Jamaica. The declared subject: vaccine safety. Even from the beginning, it was clear that this was no ordinary scientific conference. It had all the signs of a junket. A meet-and-greet for vaccine ?skeptics? and wealthy patrons. Precisely the sort of junket that people complain about ?Big Pharma? hosting. Well, not precisely. I suspect even Big Pharma doesn?t put on such a lavish event.
The number of speakers was small (only 19), and didn?t include anyone who is a vaccine researcher. 21 presentations were made in the course of a week, leaving a lot of time for people to enjoy the resort and to network.

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Ferus 10-21-2017 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22044761)
His wife has a science degree, she is the one who's made the connection, not him.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Stephanie Crescenzo works as an Coordinator at a hospital. She have no medical or science degree (her records are public, because she works with kids)

Stephanie Crescenzo
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Office Coordinator at The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
Hospital & Health Care

Experience:
The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia December 2008 ? Present
Plume Restaurant December 2004 ? March 2007
Alstin Communications February 2000 ? May 2006

Ferus 10-21-2017 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22044769)
No idea what you're talking about, I've never asked Sly to remove anything, I couldn't give a damn if people know my name is Peter Johnson, some losers post people's names thinking it helps them to win an argument, it doesn't, it only shows that you know you're losing it by taking such a childish attitude.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh sure "Peter" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

wehateporn 10-21-2017 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by grzepa (Post 22044771)
I think it's bit unfair for you to sit there, free of diseases that in the past killed or made lot of people seriously sick and spread the awareness like that. Gotta trust someone, I'm not scientist and I choose to trust that vaccines do more good than harm, and my children definitely gonna get them.

Only intended on posting the video, but since the misinformed comments started I figured I should deal with a few

I caught the childhood diseases, such as Measles, Mumps, Chicken Pox, they were fine, no problem at all, much better them being left epileptic by a vaccine, with asthma, peanut allergies, MS etc.

This is the problem, everyone else posting in this thread is simply a 'truster' like you, someone who is putting trust in a industry which is regularly fined millions of dollars for all kinds of horrific practices. The only way to get to the bottom of this is to do the research, it takes ages, most people don't have the patience. I did put the time in, so now I'm sharing my findings.

wehateporn 10-21-2017 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22044755)
Ran our of arguments yourself, so you had to go back to posting youtube video?

Some people videod experts discussing their research and uploaded it to YouTube, would it only be true if it was written down and not posted on YouTube?

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22044755)
No wonder you dont have a wife. As soon as she questioned you, you would run to her with an iPad and run a video in her face...

You seem to be confusing me with someone else, I've been married quite a while

wehateporn 10-21-2017 04:26 AM

How Much US Pediatricians Make From Vaccines

"So how much money do doctors really make from vaccines? The average American pediatrician has 1546 patients, though some pediatricians see many more. The vast majority of those patients are very young, perhaps because children transition to a family physician or stop visiting the doctor at all as they grow up. As they table above explains, Blue Cross Blue Shield pays pediatricians $400 per fully vaccinated child. If your pediatrician has just 100 fully-vaccinated patients turning 2 this year, that’s $40,000. Yes, Blue Cross Blue Shield pays your doctor a $40,000 bonus for fully vaccinating 100 patients under the age of 2. If your doctor manages to fully vaccinate 200 patients, that bonus jumps to $80,000. V But here’s the catch: Under Blue Cross Blue Shield’s rules, pediatricians lose the whole bonus unless at least 63% of patients are fully vaccinated, and that includes the flu vaccine. So it’s not just $400 on your child’s head–it could be the whole bonus. To your doctor, your decision to vaccinate your child might be worth $40,000, or much more, depending on the size of his or her practice.

If your pediatrician recommends that your child under the age of 2 receive the flu vaccine–even though the flu vaccine has never been studied in very young children and evidence suggests that the flu vaccine actually weakens a person’s immune system over the long term–ask yourself: Is my doctor more concerned with selling me vaccines to keep my child healthy or to send his child to private school?"

https://wellnessandequality.com/2016...from-vaccines/

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Ferus 10-21-2017 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22044787)

This is the problem, everyone else posting in this thread is simply a 'truster' like you

I worked for years automating quality control in the medical business, so I belive I know more than average about how the industry works, and how safe it is.

On top of that I survived cancer 9 years ago - thanks again to big pharma

Ferus 10-21-2017 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22044789)
Some people videod experts discussing their research and uploaded it to YouTube, would it only be true if it was written down and not posted on YouTube?


I know you have a hard time understanding this, but how opinions are served dont mean shit. It's how you back it up with facts and research that matters. So show me the research you spend so much time on (clue; outside youtube)

Ferus 10-21-2017 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22044789)
You seem to be confusing me with someone else, I've been married quite a while

No, I'm 100% sure. I know who lives where your affiliate checks used to be send to.

wehateporn 10-21-2017 04:35 AM

That's showing experience, not qualifications, she has a BSc

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22044783)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Stephanie Crescenzo works as an Coordinator at a hospital. She have no medical or science degree (her records are public, because she works with kids)

Stephanie Crescenzo
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Office Coordinator at The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
Hospital & Health Care

Experience:
The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia December 2008 ? Present
Plume Restaurant December 2004 ? March 2007
Alstin Communications February 2000 ? May 2006


wehateporn 10-21-2017 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22044813)
No, I'm 100% sure. I know who lives where your affiliate checks used to be send to.

You are either thinking of someone else or you just here for a troll

Ferus 10-21-2017 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22044815)
That's showing experience, not qualifications, she has a BSc

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh No - she CLAIMS she has a BSc

wehateporn 10-21-2017 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22044807)
I know you have a hard time understanding this, but how opinions are served dont mean shit. It's how you back it up with facts and research that matters. So show me the research you spend so much time on (clue; outside youtube)

We'll be here all day and I'm meant to be working now. If you genuinely want to learn more, then those videos are the best starting point, if you're just here to argue/troll, I'm a bit too busy right now

wehateporn 10-21-2017 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22044819)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh No - she CLAIMS she has a BSc

She doesn't look like a liar, and it would be a bit silly of her to lie on tv knowing that she'll get found out

wehateporn 10-21-2017 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22044797)
I worked for years automating quality control in the medical business, so I belive I know more than average about how the industry works, and how safe it is.

Vaccine safety is different to the rest

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22044797)
On top of that I survived cancer 9 years ago - thanks again to big pharma

That could have been caused by a vaccine, also could have been cured naturally without harming you brain and immune system

https://www.cancertutor.com/

Ferus 10-21-2017 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22044817)
You are either thinking of someone else or you just here for a troll

Nope. You use the same contact info in every (almost) affiliate system you signed up for.

If you take one of the FEDS free Check Adjustment webinars (google it) - you will know why all processers have your personal details on record


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