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slapass 11-04-2017 05:30 AM

GOP tax bill
 
Kind of hard to bitch about it. Corporate tax is way too high. We have known that forever so, yeah let?s fix it. Move a few things around. Fine. Then holy fuck, the LLC pass through! This is a fucking give away to the rich. But so what? It is going to be all kinds of fun. :thumbsup

Barry-xlovecam 11-04-2017 06:02 AM

New scam replaces the old scam.
Guess who loses?
Inflation will be the winner.

If you file an S corporation/ LLC you will need to file 2 tax returns; 1120 and 1040. Additionally you need to pay the annual report and renewal fees for the corporation. Another expense to pay to the state and accounting an legal costs -- this is deductible however.

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The legislation leaves the top individual rate at 39.6 percent. But after $1 million of income for individuals and $1.2 million for married couples, a tax rate of 45.6 percent would kick in.

The so-called bubble rate would go away once the taxpayer has given back the benefits received under the 12-percent tax rate that applies to the first $45,000 of income for individuals and $90,000 for married couples.
Republican tax bill creates new bracket for the wealthy | TheHill

Whats with the disparity in the single/married bracket income between the highest and lowest tax bracket?

Trump wants to throw in an amendment to repeal Obamacare in the tax bill too -- a backdoor deal breaker -- that will stall this so called ''tax reform'' or possibly kill it.

bronco67 11-04-2017 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 22061912)
Kind of hard to bitch about it. Corporate tax is way too high. We have known that forever so, yeah let?s fix it. Move a few things around. Fine. Then holy fuck, the LLC pass through! This is a fucking give away to the rich. But so what? It is going to be all kinds of fun. :thumbsup

It's a fact that corporations don't actually pay more than 15%. I know I never have. Have you?

slapass 11-04-2017 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22061932)
It's a fact that corporations don't actually pay more than 15%. I know I never have. Have you?

I would love to see thst -https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/actual-us-corporate-tax-rates-are-in-line-with-comparable-countries

Big companies with lots of profit tend to keep it offshore. There is a reason for that. I am not sure why we don?t go for 10%. If that is a barrier to employment in the US, lets open the floodgates.

slapass 11-04-2017 06:34 AM

Corporate tax is about 9% of the gross receipts for the US. If we slash 20%of that, the effect on the budget will be minimal and the possible benefit is huge.

Barry-xlovecam 11-04-2017 06:38 AM

I would like to see corporate income taxed at 0% --eliminated.
Pass through corporations, S/LLC, would have no tax advantage
Capital gains should be 0% taxed capped at $200K a year per filer --and the overage taxed as regular income.

However, the higher income tax brackets would have to be substantially increased, or added, for this to at the very least be revenue neutral and equitable.

slapass 11-04-2017 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 22061970)
I would like to see corporate income taxed at 0% --eliminated.
Pass through corporations, S/LLC, would have no tax advantage
Capital gains should be 0% taxed capped at $200K a year per filer --and the overage taxed as regular income.

However, the higher income tax brackets would have to be substantially increased, or added, for this to at the very least be revenue neutral and equitable.

If they all became pass through you could just drop it to zero. The problem with that is that our society uses taxes as way to achieve financial oversite on companies and citizens. It has secondary benefits.

Barry-xlovecam 11-04-2017 07:21 AM

You could probably repeal income tax altogether and replace it with a 30% VAT tax. Just exempt food, healthcare, rents (homesteads), utilities, education, public transport, personal vehicles (the first $20K inflation adjusted) so the basics of life are untaxed.

People would want to work and save then.

crockett 11-04-2017 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 22061912)
Kind of hard to bitch about it. Corporate tax is way too high. We have known that forever so, yeah let?s fix it. Move a few things around. Fine. Then holy fuck, the LLC pass through! This is a fucking give away to the rich. But so what? It is going to be all kinds of fun. :thumbsup

Bullshit no one pays the corporate tax rate. They are fucking the middle class and their so called tax break will lead to recession.

Just like the exact same fucking tax cut with a different name did under reganomics..

slapass 11-04-2017 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22062034)
Bullshit no one pays the corporate tax rate. They are fucking the middle class and their so called tax break will lead to recession.

Just like the exact same fucking tax cut with a different name did under reganomics..

Reagan overhauled the whole system. He wiped out the S&L?s. This is pretty much just changing some rates. I do not think they can be compared. Yes, this is a tax break for the rich but it is the rich thst pay taxes.

Barry-xlovecam 11-04-2017 09:24 AM

Regan's tax cut made a severe recession worse

https://s1.postimg.org/77jzfdf1f3/1982-resc-unemp.jpg

In the 'rust belt' unemployment was 18% or worse in manufacturing and related service industries. For me, the Great Recession was in 1982 this last one was really less severe (for me personally).

https://s1.postimg.org/66emyza9zj/MW...5113521_MG.jpg

Trump's money guys want to crash the economy and buy up the assets cheap --- that is how the rich get richer. I plan to double or triple my money if this comes to pass I am fully deleveraged now and at the ready for this.

So, inflation and deficits are your friends in this scenario. :2 cents:

mineistaken 11-04-2017 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 22062106)
it is the rich thst pay taxes.

:2 cents::2 cents:

beerptrol 11-04-2017 03:16 PM

Just another mass transfer of wealth to the rich. With the bullshit trickle down economics excuse which never happens. And the brain dead chumpanzees love it

Rochard 11-04-2017 03:40 PM

So businesses will get to pay a lot less, individuals will pay slightly more, they will take away some of our deductions, and our deficit will up trillions.

Is this really what winning looks like?


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