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femdomdestiny 11-16-2017 05:44 PM

N/A sales with CCbill
 
I guess I am not the only one noticing an increasing number of N/A sales with CCbill. In this moment, almost all sales are in this status which means that I don't have a clue where they are coming from. That means that I don't know what pages are resulting in sales and what I am doing good or bad.

Below is the example of a sale:

https://s17.postimg.org/aoqre7ecv/aman.png

Now, this is exactly the same sale shown and tracked through sliiing.com

https://s17.postimg.org/nu69kf34f/image.png

As we can see, it clearly showing the page where it came from. This is just one example, there are many.

What is stopping CCbill to show us URL? It worked before

InfoGuy 11-16-2017 08:38 PM

Could it be from more people using private browsing while surfing the net?

Paul&John 11-17-2017 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 22077580)
Could it be from more people using private browsing while surfing the net?

He just said that the same sale's url is visible via sliiing

AmeliaG 11-17-2017 03:11 AM

Have you opened a ticket with CCBill or asked your rep?

BigFurry 11-17-2017 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 22077580)
Could it be from more people using private browsing while surfing the net?

Private browsing mode doesn't hide the referring URLs.

femdomdestiny 11-17-2017 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 22077766)
Have you opened a ticket with CCBill or asked your rep?

Yes, long ago when I've noticed this problem. (now it is worse, as described above) The answer didn't have a solution or reasonable explanation. Later, I've remembered to check sliing and sales there have full URL where CCbill says it is N/A

AmeliaG 11-17-2017 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 22077818)
Yes, long ago when I've noticed this problem. (now it is worse, as described above) The answer didn't have a solution or reasonable explanation. Later, I've remembered to check sliing and sales there have full URL where CCbill says it is N/A


Interesting. Seems odd that the data is obviously there if other software can see it.

Klen 11-17-2017 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 22077820)
Interesting. Seems odd that the data is obviously there if other software can see it.

They probably have lazy programmers which dont bother to fix simple error.

bns666 11-17-2017 05:11 AM

i gave up on promoting ccbill sites long time ago...

InfoGuy 11-17-2017 05:15 AM

Mozilla Firefox Tracking Protection

Quote:

Block lists in Firefox

You can change the block list used to block third-party trackers. By default, Private Browsing with Tracking Protection uses the Disconnect.me basic protection list. You can change this to use the Disconnect.me strict protection list instead.

The basic protection list blocks commonly known analytics trackers, social sharing trackers and advertising trackers.
Mozilla Firefox Do Not Track

Quote:

What is Do Not Track?

Do Not Track is a step toward putting you in control of the way your information is collected and used online. Do Not Track is a feature in Firefox that allows you to let a website know you would like to opt-out of third-party tracking for purposes including behavioral advertising. It does this by transmitting a Do Not Track HTTP header every time your data is requested from the Web.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul&John (Post 22077716)
He just said that the same sale's url is visible via sliiing

CCBill is commonly known and likely to be blocked. Is Sliiing well known enough to be blocked? That could explain the difference. Another possibility is that CCBill honors the Do Not Track requests and Sliiing doesn't. Honoring Do Not Track is similar to robots.txt and web crawlers. Adherence is voluntary.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 22077798)
Private browsing mode doesn't hide the referring URLs.

Maybe not by itself, but how about Private Browsing with Tracking Protection?

femdomdestiny 11-17-2017 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 22077884)

Maybe not by itself, but how about Private Browsing with Tracking Protection?

I doubt. This is too advanced. There is no chance that so many customers have knowledge and skills.

The Porn Nerd 11-17-2017 01:16 PM

At first I thought it was a Mind Geek sale (YouPorn, Pornhub, Redtube) since MG is now masking referring URLs. But then I see femdondestiny.com as the URL....

CCBill needs to fix this!!

RyuLion 11-17-2017 01:24 PM

that person probably had Norton Internet Privacy.

phil-flash 11-17-2017 01:41 PM

I noticed it in my stats too...

femdomdestiny 11-18-2017 10:28 AM

This is a serious problem for the webmaster. I can't believe that no one is talking about it. We simply need to know where sales are coming from so we can adjust strategies and planning. It is beneficial for webmasters and CCbill (if they don't have some other plan behind this?)

What kind of an excuse is there for a system it the same sale is shown in the other place. That was just one example, there are many.

llporter 11-18-2017 03:42 PM

thanks for info.... sticking toe back in and interesting to see how much has changed and yet how soooo much is same headaches as years ago.

rogueteens 11-19-2017 02:35 AM

If I ever make a CCBill sale again, I'll let you know what it says.

Paul&John 11-19-2017 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 22079648)
If I ever make a CCBill sale again, I'll let you know what it says.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:2 cents::2 cents:

JuicyBunny 11-19-2017 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 22079648)
If I ever make a CCBill sale again, I'll let you know what it says.

Eye had 2.....this year. I'll share one with you. ;)

wehateporn 11-19-2017 10:53 AM

While CCBill is harder to make a sale on, it is the most likely adult system to still be around 10 years from now

ctggls 11-19-2017 12:01 PM

+1 to this. 90% of my sales shows N/A but i?m Getting used to it

femdomdestiny 11-20-2017 03:49 AM

I don't think it is funny at all. Just got three sales here and each one is N/A.
I guess that adult business now has a need for a new service: a psychic

Paul&John 11-20-2017 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22080030)
While CCBill is harder to make a sale on, it is the most likely adult system to still be around 10 years from now

Not sure what advantage does it offers to me for it being around if I can't sell shit there lol

klinton 11-20-2017 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 22080494)
I guess that adult business now has a need for a new service: a psychic

Aren't you one, Mr.P ? :winkwink::winkwink::winkwink:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20131229094240

server logs !

Bladewire 11-20-2017 08:53 AM

Use the new CCBill API to avoid this issue :2 cents:

wehateporn 11-20-2017 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul&John (Post 22080509)
Not sure what advantage does it offers to me for it being around if I can't sell shit there lol

From an affiliate perspective, let's say CCBill sells at 50% of the rate of Zombaio, you invest years in both, Zombaio making $1000 per month, with CCBill making $500 per month. Zombaio is good in the beginning, until they go bust or stop paying, whereas CCBill still continues for many years with the $500 per month.

rayadp05 11-20-2017 10:33 AM

I honestly don't understand why people say that they don't make sales with CCBill programs. My site has always done very well in terms of generating sales and I've been using CCBill for 13 years now. I don't think you can blame the processor, the hosting company or the domain registrant. People always want to shift the blame when they're not making sales. :1orglaugh

I think it depends on the program itself, as well as the type of content bring promoted. Another big factor is updating the site on time and on a regular basis. I always update my site very regularly with new models and content, which is good because it gives the customer a reason to come back to log in. I have customers that have been members for YEARS ....and the sales continue to flow in just about every other hour during the day and evening hours. These are new sales and re-bills.

I am just stating my own personal experiences and views on the matter. But yeah, I've just never understood why people say that because that's clearly not the case with my program. I think you are cutting yourself short by lumping ALL programs together that use CCBill just because a few others didn't do so well.

femdomdestiny 11-20-2017 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rayadp05 (Post 22080690)
I honestly don't understand why people say that they don't make sales with CCBill programs. My site has always done very well in terms of generating sales and I've been using CCBill for 13 years now. I don't think you can blame the processor, the hosting company or the domain registrant. People always want to shift the blame when they're not making sales. :1orglaugh

I think it depends on the program itself, as well as the type of content bring promoted. Another big factor is updating the site on time and on a regular basis. I always update my site very regularly with new models and content, which is good because it gives the customer a reason to come back to log in. I have customers that have been members for YEARS ....and the sales continue to flow in just about every other hour during the day and evening hours. These are new sales and re-bills.

I am just stating my own personal experiences and views on the matter. But yeah, I've just never understood why people say that because that's clearly not the case with my program. I think you are cutting yourself short by lumping ALL programs together that use CCBill just because a few others didn't do so well.

My experience says that conversions are better on the program side compared to affiliate. For example, when I was running a paysite many years ago, updates could be late for months literally, and there were still new signups every day on a relatively small traffic volume. Maybe competition was not so strong back then, but this is my personal experience. Content quality is probably a huge factor plus piracy.

SpicyM 11-20-2017 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 22080722)
My experience says that conversions are better on the program side compared to affiliate. For example, when I was running a paysite many years ago, updates could be late for months literally, and there were still new signups every day on a relatively small traffic volume. Maybe competition was not so strong back then, but this is my personal experience. Content quality is probably a huge factor plus piracy.


Why did you stop stop the paysite then?

femdomdestiny 11-20-2017 03:34 PM

Problem with models, those were solo models sites, plus my car was robbed at some point and all equipment stolen together with fresh footage for the many next updates.

femdomdestiny 11-20-2017 05:33 PM

One more in N/A.

All sales today are in the same status. I can't measure the effectiveness of my approach this way if I don't know where from they are coming.

https://s8.postimg.org/p25ozwk39/again.jpg

femdomdestiny 11-20-2017 05:51 PM

And I've just got one more, luckily, this one can be tracked through sliing.
Same story again:

https://s8.postimg.org/tpbr1wkdh/yes.jpg

But CCbill says :

https://s8.postimg.org/ljtp3qoet/image.jpg


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