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onwebcam 12-03-2017 02:52 PM

EU to regulate bitcoin
 
Treasury crackdown on Bitcoin over concerns it is used to launder money and dodge tax

Paul&John 12-03-2017 03:18 PM

Many/most exchanges already want you to submit some ID if trading crypto for fiat (usd/eur etc) currency, however there is no chance they can regulate exchanges made by regular people.

NatalieK 12-03-2017 03:19 PM

dodge tax, launder money...


wtf :)

MaDalton 12-03-2017 03:38 PM

because nobody is avoiding taxes and laundering money now

MiamiBoyz 12-03-2017 03:40 PM

Those in power will always find a way to steal from others...they are professional thieves after all.

~Ray 12-03-2017 03:46 PM

Interesting turn of events.

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CAHEK 12-03-2017 04:00 PM

its about time :2 cents::thumbsup

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Klen 12-03-2017 04:39 PM

That is one of things what worries with crypto currency generaly. The thing is , in order to make money on longterm, you need to keep it, but goverment could see it as tax evasion while in reality you just try to make as much is possible money by waiting on cashout.

baddog 12-03-2017 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22098093)
because nobody is avoiding taxes and laundering money now

So give them another way to do it?

MaDalton 12-03-2017 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22098207)
So give them another way to do it?

so when it's about weapons, then it's not the weapon but the person who uses it?

but when it comes to money laundering and tax evasion it's the currency but not the person who does it?

take Bitcoin away = no money laundering and tax evasion?

ok - then: take weapons away and no murder, right?

or is the Bitcoin the AR15 of currencies?


On a serious note (as if you cared): My Bitcoin exchange provides statements that i can use to file taxes and according to local laws i pay tax on capital gains if i sell in less than 5 years after purchase. And they have my ID docs and address.

So at the end it is up to anyone to follow the laws and pay taxes where applicable

And I think we can all agree that banks are only shitting their pants about losing business and therefore fight crypto currencies wherever they can

Google Expert 12-03-2017 05:58 PM

Jew bankers are butthurt that goys are going to ditch their monetary system and break free form their anal slavery, so they're trying to stop crypto from taking over :1orglaugh

That's a sign that crypto is a pretty serious tech.

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nico-t 12-03-2017 05:59 PM

Another EU dictatorship success story.

Google Expert 12-03-2017 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22098207)
So give them another way to do it?

((((THEY)))) are protecting their racket.

it's just as bad, if not worse

Tasty1 12-03-2017 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22098264)
On a serious note (as if you cared): My Bitcoin exchange provides statements that i can use to file taxes and according to local laws i pay tax on capital gains if i sell in less than 5 years after purchase. And they have my ID docs and address.

So at the end it is up to anyone to follow the laws and pay taxes where applicable

And I think we can all agree that banks are only shitting their pants about losing business and therefore fight crypto currencies wherever they can

That is why people now moving. Why would you pay capital gains on bitcoin? If i buy USD's and they become worth more i don't have to pay tax on that. Sweden also taxes bitcoins and people with a lot of bitcoins will leave.

In Holland they just see it as capital. If you have more than 20.000 euro capital (house/stocks/cash), you pay 0,7 - 1,2% on the amount you have above 20.000 euro. They don't look if and how much money you made from it.

How high are the taxes on capital gains in Germany or Czech republic?

klinton 12-03-2017 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 22098582)
How high are the taxes on capital gains in Germany or Czech republic?

Capital Gains Tax Europe - Accountancy in Europe

adultchatpay 12-04-2017 12:18 AM

Bitcoin is used to launder money, transact illegal drugs and buy weapons in the first place.

money biz 12-04-2017 12:38 AM

If they actually implement something it's going to be a mass awakening more detrimental then btc it's self.

thommy 12-04-2017 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultchatpay (Post 22098654)
Bitcoin is used to launder money, transact illegal drugs and buy weapons in the first place.

what most of these bitcoin loving guys forget is that the bitcoin have an exchange rate.

if you destroy the existing currencies what is the exchange rate then?

11.000 to what?

bns666 12-04-2017 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22098093)
because nobody is avoiding taxes and laundering money now

:1orglaugh

pimpmaster9000 12-04-2017 03:15 AM

well if you want to use fiat you have to obey the laws of people who issue the fiat...nothing is stopping you from bartering 100 chickens for bitcoin...

as for tax evasion it is almost as perfect as my greenhouses LOL...in my country the law says it is not taxable because selling something (a couch, a tv or a steam account) is not profit so it is not taxable...I would have to pay like %5 to launder as much offshore money as I want by buying BTC or some other shit coin and just selling it to a domestic exchanger in return for local currency to my bank account...fucking perfect...it circumvents all tax laws in my country for money coming from abroad and I have the perfect cover by getting a domestic transfer to my local account...

Google Expert 12-04-2017 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultchatpay (Post 22098654)
Bitcoin is used to launder money, transact illegal drugs and buy weapons in the first place.

US Dollars are used to launder money, transact illegal drugs and buy weapons in the first place.

See what i did there?

Paul Markham 12-04-2017 04:05 AM

The problem is how do they acquire the info to regulate it?

pimpmaster9000 12-04-2017 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22098888)
The problem is how do they acquire the info to regulate it?

they do not want to regulate bitcoin at all...they want to regulate anything that has anything to do with fiat being exchanged in to and out of shitcoins...

you can exchange 1000 fart-in-a-jar coins for 1000 shit-on-a-sidewalk coins all you like but the moment you want to use fiat in any way you have to comply with what ever regulation the issuers of the fiat impose on you...

they will make all exchangers comply and localbitcoin.com will become local-sting-coin.com...

thommy 12-04-2017 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22099014)
they do not want to regulate bitcoin at all...they want to regulate anything that has anything to do with fiat being exchanged in to and out of shitcoins...

you can exchange 1000 fart-in-a-jar coins for 1000 shit-on-a-sidewalk coins all you like but the moment you want to use fiat in any way you have to comply with what ever regulation the issuers of the fiat impose on you...

they will make all exchangers comply and localbitcoin.com will become local-sting-coin.com...

the point is - as soon it is also regulated and not anonyme anymore THAN you can see the real value it has.

i assume that 99% of all that bitcoin buys are from black biz because it is a good way to wash money. this ammount of money what made it exploding can not come from regular sources.

as soon this possibility is gone they do not have a reason to buy cryptos anymore and than they will hurry to take the wins out and go.
and then you see the same downward curve - just faster.

nico-t 12-04-2017 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22099392)
the point is - as soon it is also regulated and not anonyme anymore THAN you can see the real value it has.

i assume that 99% of all that bitcoin buys are from black biz because it is a good way to wash money. this ammount of money what made it exploding can not come from regular sources.

as soon this possibility is gone they do not have a reason to buy cryptos anymore and than they will hurry to take the wins out and go.
and then you see the same downward curve - just faster.

holy shit you're clueless :1orglaugh

Bladewire 12-04-2017 11:57 AM

^^ Polack hates American culture loves Putin & Trump

pimpmaster9000 12-04-2017 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 22099503)
holy shit you're clueless :1orglaugh

considering that 95% of all the bitcoin volume was from 3 china exchangers I find it extremely hard to believe that the money was not underground money...the USA/EU is just a tiny tiny part of bitcoin...

JFK 12-04-2017 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22098093)
because nobody is avoiding taxes and laundering money now

was just gonna say .........:2 cents:

DraX 12-04-2017 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22098753)
what most of these bitcoin loving guys forget is that the bitcoin have an exchange rate.

if you destroy the existing currencies what is the exchange rate then?

11.000 to what?

I'm sure you would trade 1 btc for a couple of bananas, cause of brexit great britain won't be able to import any. Therefor bananas will be worth PURE gold...:2 cents:


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