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2MuchMark 12-04-2017 03:17 PM

Say goodbye to 1.1 Million Acres of National Parks, Americans. Because: Trump
 
Fuckhead Trump just took away federal protection for over a million acres of national parks, something that Obama fought to keep.

Trump shrinks Utah monuments in historic move - CNNPolitics

TheDynasty 12-04-2017 03:19 PM

Do you think when trump is out of office someone will go and correct the dumb shit he did?

magneto664 12-04-2017 03:28 PM

Good Job! since we have tv and google maps nobody is interested in the landscape.
America make a good move - Trump 4 Ever :)

Smack dat 12-04-2017 03:49 PM

Yeah. If you read the article it actually makes sense.
If you cross reference the article with other more trusted sources you start to find out the true reasons and why Trump did this.

directfiesta 12-04-2017 03:53 PM

Drilling, mining , fracking ....MAGA !!!!!

2MuchMark 12-04-2017 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDynasty (Post 22099764)
Do you think when trump is out of office someone will go and correct the dumb shit he did?

Clinton 2020!!

Acepimp 12-04-2017 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22099761)
Fuckhead Trump just took away federal protection for over a million acres of national parks, something that Obama fought to keep.

You mean he reversed Obama's illegal land grab?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22099962)
Clinton 2020!!

Why would you want the queen of fracking??

How Hillary Clinton?s State Department Sold Fracking To The World

HILLARY CLINTON?S ENERGY INITIATIVE PRESSED COUNTRIES TO EMBRACE FRACKING, NEW EMAILS REVEAL

Mark, your queen is a fraud and a liar and an evil person.

Good thing she's still under multiple investigations :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:pimp

Major (Tom) 12-04-2017 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22099761)
Fuckhead Trump just took away federal protection for over a million acres of national parks, something that Obama fought to keep.

Trump shrinks Utah monuments in historic move - CNNPolitics


It wasn?t trump. It was the senator from alaska who demanded it for the yes vote on the tax bill

Robbie 12-04-2017 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22099761)
Fuckhead Trump just took away federal protection for over a million acres of national parks, something that Obama fought to keep.

Trump shrinks Utah monuments in historic move - CNNPolitics

You don't understand this subject Mark.

Trump didn't "take away" any "national parks".

What was done before was a misuse of the Antiquities Act. The act was originally made (in 1906) to allow the President to proclaim things as "National MONUMENTS".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiquities_Act

In other words...an Indian burial mound or a historical home, etc.

In the last couple of decades...Presidents figured out that this was a "loophole" which allowed them to do MASSIVE Federal land grabs without the consent of Congress.

In other words...the Federal Govt. taking AWAY the land from the people of the states.

Today President Trump returned a lot of land to the state of Utah. Where it had always been since Utah first became a state. In other words the exact same way it was until Dec. 28,2016 when President Obama, as a lame duck President, "Proclaimed" 1,351,849 acres of Utah land to be a "national monument".

Look it up for yourself. Don't read "opinion" crap. Just read the facts.
It was Presidential over reach at it's very worst.

All Trump just did was return things EXACTLY the way they were exactly one year ago.

No "national park" disappeared and nobody had to say "goodbye" to the land. It's the same as it was just 12 months ago.

There is way too much drama and bias in the media. And then people from other country's read or watch these media sources and come away with a complete misunderstanding.

The media simply can not be trusted anymore. They are lying to everyone at almost every turn to push an agenda to make Trump out to be the "bad guy".

DBS.US 12-04-2017 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22100022)
You don't understand this subject Mark.

Trump didn't "take away" any "national parks".
The media simply can not be trusted anymore. They are lying to everyone at almost every turn to push an agenda to make Trump out to be the "bad guy".

Ya:thumbsup

mineistaken 12-04-2017 06:27 PM

Robbie, aren't you getting tired of schooling people who are unable to think for themselves and rely on opinions are you correctly stated (just had the same argument of opinions vs facts yesterday in another thread).

Robbie 12-04-2017 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 22100049)
Robbie, aren't you getting tired of schooling people who are unable to think for themselves and rely on opinions are you correctly stated (just had the same argument of opinions vs facts yesterday in another thread).

You can't blame people for getting the news from....the news media.

It's just disgusting what the media is doing. They are working as hard as they can every hour of every day to overturn the duly elected President Of The United States. It blows my mind.

So no, I don't blame people that have basically been told over and over and over that Trump is some kind of EVIL right wing nutcase.

Reality is...he is the most liberal Republican President ever. But the fact that he is not bought, sold, and owned by the establishment makes him an enemy of both Republicans and Democrat politicians and the entire "deep state" bureaucracy.

Politicians and bureaucrats have been robbing the country blind for our entire lifetimes. Trump is a direct threat to their "business as usual" corruption.

He MUST be destroyed so that nobody EVER tries to do what he did and run for President without first owing allegiance to one of the two ruling party's.

2MuchMark 12-04-2017 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22099989)

Mark, your queen is a fraud and a liar and an evil person.

Yeah, and Trump is never fucked anyone over.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22100022)
You don't understand this subject Mark.

Trump didn't "take away" any "national parks". etc etc etc...

Hi Robbie,

Thanks for all the info, and i knew some of that already. Help me out on this: Wouldn't Trump's action today make alot of land at Bears Ears National Monument to now be available for oil and gas drilling? Same question about Grand Staircase Escalante Monument? Some of those areas are rich in Native American Artifacts.

To Trumps credit, he is supposed to allow for co-management of these areas for Tribes. I doubt this will happen or be fair, but I'll give him benefit of the doubt for now. But if this is true, then why the Navajos threatening to sue Trump? And why wasn't the decision made without consulting the Navajos? And why are so many others announcing they will sue as well?

Of course I'm no expert. From my HippyLiberal (and proud) view though, I see this as something that didn't need to be done. I'm also really bothered by the fact that some of that beautiful landscape could be be one day ruined forever by mining outfits, oil and gas companies, etc.

Peace!

Mr Pheer 12-04-2017 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22100187)
Yeah, and Trump is never fucked anyone over.



Hi Robbie,

Thanks for all the info, and i knew some of that already. Help me out on this: Wouldn't Trump's action today make alot of land at Bears Ears National Monument to now be available for oil and gas drilling? Same question about Grand Staircase Escalante Monument? Some of those areas are rich in Native American Artifacts.

To Trumps credit, he is supposed to allow for co-management of these areas for Tribes. I doubt this will happen or be fair, but I'll give him benefit of the doubt for now. But if this is true, then why the Navajos threatening to sue Trump? And why wasn't the decision made without consulting the Navajos? And why are so many others announcing they will sue as well?

Of course I'm no expert. From my HippyLiberal (and proud) view though, I see this as something that didn't need to be done. I'm also really bothered by the fact that some of that beautiful landscape could be be one day ruined forever by mining outfits, oil and gas companies, etc.

Peace!

Isnt there enough shit in Canada for you to worry about?

Grapesoda 12-04-2017 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22099761)
Fuckhead Trump just took away federal protection for over a million acres of national parks, something that Obama fought to keep.

Trump shrinks Utah monuments in historic move - CNNPolitics

so what? Canada lose something? and a million acres ain't shit :2 cents:

Bladewire 12-04-2017 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 22099995)
It wasn?t trump. It was the senator from alaska who demanded it for the yes vote on the tax bill

Trump signed it dipshit

Take responsibility for what the asshole in office, who's ass and balls you luck everyday, does.

I used to think you were an alpha male but this beta cuck bullshit of never taking responsibility really brings you down the gutter. Unfortunate

Grapesoda 12-04-2017 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22100187)
Yeah, and Trump is never fucked anyone over.



Hi Robbie,

Thanks for all the info, and i knew some of that already. Help me out on this: Wouldn't Trump's action today make alot of land at Bears Ears National Monument to now be available for oil and gas drilling? Same question about Grand Staircase Escalante Monument? Some of those areas are rich in Native American Artifacts.

To Trumps credit, he is supposed to allow for co-management of these areas for Tribes. I doubt this will happen or be fair, but I'll give him benefit of the doubt for now. But if this is true, then why the Navajos threatening to sue Trump? And why wasn't the decision made without consulting the Navajos? And why are so many others announcing they will sue as well?

Of course I'm no expert. From my HippyLiberal (and proud) view though, I see this as something that didn't need to be done. I'm also really bothered by the fact that some of that beautiful landscape could be be one day ruined forever by mining outfits, oil and gas companies, etc.

Peace!

every cry baby... whoops!!! every special interest group is suing trump because people like YOU will broadcast this to the WORLD, and they ALL want FREE press :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

xKingx 12-04-2017 08:29 PM

Why do you care as a Canadian, what a USA president does??? Worry about your own country, I never see you posting about other fucked up countries. Besides the USA, jealous much??

GFED 12-04-2017 08:34 PM

This affects me a lot since I practically live in these places whenever I'm not at a rest area, truck stop or Walmart parking lot.

crockett 12-04-2017 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22100067)
You can't blame people for getting the news from....the news media.

It's just disgusting what the media is doing. They are working as hard as they can every hour of every day to overturn the duly elected President Of The United States. It blows my mind.

So no, I don't blame people that have basically been told over and over and over that Trump is some kind of EVIL right wing nutcase.

Reality is...he is the most liberal Republican President ever. But the fact that he is not bought, sold, and owned by the establishment makes him an enemy of both Republicans and Democrat politicians and the entire "deep state" bureaucracy.

Politicians and bureaucrats have been robbing the country blind for our entire lifetimes. Trump is a direct threat to their "business as usual" corruption.

He MUST be destroyed so that nobody EVER tries to do what he did and run for President without first owing allegiance to one of the two ruling party's.

Jesus your mind is gone...

crockett 12-04-2017 08:42 PM

Btw, these are the same monuments that Republicans in Congress tried to cut apart about a year ago.

Just like with Net neutrality the people overwhelming spoke out and wanted them to remain as they were.

Just like with NN republicans ignored the will of the people to do whatever they want ..

And just like always gfy Republicans like Robbie deflect and defend and blame liberals..

The simple facts are Republicans and Robbie hate America..

Robbie 12-04-2017 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22100187)
Yeah, and Trump is never fucked anyone over.



Hi Robbie,

Thanks for all the info, and i knew some of that already. Help me out on this: Wouldn't Trump's action today make alot of land at Bears Ears National Monument to now be available for oil and gas drilling? Same question about Grand Staircase Escalante Monument? Some of those areas are rich in Native American Artifacts.

To Trumps credit, he is supposed to allow for co-management of these areas for Tribes. I doubt this will happen or be fair, but I'll give him benefit of the doubt for now. But if this is true, then why the Navajos threatening to sue Trump? And why wasn't the decision made without consulting the Navajos? And why are so many others announcing they will sue as well?

Of course I'm no expert. From my HippyLiberal (and proud) view though, I see this as something that didn't need to be done. I'm also really bothered by the fact that some of that beautiful landscape could be be one day ruined forever by mining outfits, oil and gas companies, etc.

Peace!

I don't know the answers to those questions. I only know that everything is EXACTLY the same as it was the day before Pres. Obama pulled that land grab in the first place one year ago. NOTHING has changed.

I have personally hiked those parks by the way. And yeah, they ARE parks. I did it in 2015 BEFORE Pres. Obama grabbed the land.
They were beautiful then. And they are still beautiful now.

The Federal Govt. is not the answer to everything you know. And that land grab was a "solution" to a "problem" that didn't exist in the first place.

As was pointed out. Pres. Obama did it to secure a vote in the Senate. Pure politics all the way it appears to me.

And as for "Federal Protection" of "the land"...really?
Since when does a sovereign state need bureaucrats in far away Washington D.C. to "protect" their OWN land?
And who knows what kind of bullshit the Feds might have done anyway.
For all any of us know they could have put in silos with nuclear ICBM's in them.
Because that IS what they do all over the country. Hidden nuclear missile silos are ALL on Federal land.

In other words...fuck the govt. lol

Acepimp 12-04-2017 08:53 PM

The clueless libs are against states' rights.

They want the federal government to control everything.

It's mass mental illness, brought on by fake news. :1orglaugh

:pimp

onwebcam 12-04-2017 09:00 PM

Great move. Dialing back the Federal and UN land grab.

Helix 12-04-2017 09:11 PM

Obama took 1.1 Million Acres from the people. Trump gave it back.

Robbie 12-04-2017 09:29 PM

Actually...Pres. Obama pulled the misuse of the Antiquity's Act 29 times over his Presidency.
And the Feds grabbed 550 MILLION Acres of state land from Pres. Obama personally signing the order for all of it.

It's something the mainstream media didn't complain about at all during his administration. Of course they didn't EVER say anything bad about "Sweet Baby Jesus".

But it was a horrible abuse of power from President Obama.

And to think...Woody Guthrie would be rolling in his grave knowing the Feds took control like that. "This land is your land, this land is my land..."
Not anymore...it belongs to bureaucrats in D.C. :(

Major (Tom) 12-04-2017 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22100208)
Trump signed it dipshit

Take responsibility for what the asshole in office, who's ass and balls you luck everyday, does.

I used to think you were an alpha male but this beta cuck bullshit of never taking responsibility really brings you down the gutter. Unfortunate


Hi cocksuker
It?s called whipping votes. More in particular, cocksucker, it?s called politics.

Bladewire 12-04-2017 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 22100331)
Hi cocksuker
It?s called whipping votes. More in particular, cocksucker, it?s called politics.

Your not an alpha bro you're a cuck protecting a crook solely because you play team sports. Alphas are lone wolfs and have a mind of their own regardless of what team they root for :2 cents:

Hey at least you're not as bad as the fake nic troll Helix / Onwebcam / Acepimp logging in within minutes under each nic to push his agenda. And ayoure still hot as fuck, not an alpha though :(

2MuchMark 12-04-2017 11:29 PM

Robbie: Thanks for the info. I hope you're right, I and I hope this doesn't end in more pollution.

Acepimp: You know, If you're not going to try ...

Robbie 12-04-2017 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22100394)
I hope this doesn't end in more pollution.

Me too. But like I said, nothing has changed there in any way at all. The land wasn't "protected" by the Federal Govt. since the beginning of time. And only was put in a fake status as a "monument" exactly one year ago.

I'm not sure what the Feds in Washington D.C. have done, or COULD even do to have changed anything for the "better" in Utah during that short time period.

But who knows? Maybe there is oil underground there. I know we won't agree on this...but in my opinion that would be a GOOD thing. Great for the country, great for the economy, and great for the people of Utah.
This isn't 1890 anymore. Oil can be extracted without all the nastiness to the environment by using modern technology.

But that's another argument for another thread. :)

I'm really just trying to point out that the media is acting like this is suddenly a national "park" and has been "protected" since the beginning of the country.
That's a completely false narrative.

It's been exactly 12 months. That's all. And I highly doubt that the Trump administration allowed any of the bureaucracies in D.C. to move forward with any of their plans for the land during this year.

It's kind of a non-story on the environmental front from what I can ascertain. It's more of a story of misuse of the Antiquity Act by the former President and how it was used to steal land from the people living in the states that were affected.

There's ALWAYS an opposing viewpoint to every issue it seems these days.

I watched Pres. Trump's speech today as he signed the land back to the people of Utah to a cheering crowd.
He had a funny line where he said that he was doing this and had been assured that THIS wouldn't be "controversial". LOL
His comedic timing is pretty good. Anyway, it made me chuckle as he was obviously stating that it doesn't matter WHAT he does...he gets attacked for it by the media and political groups.

Robbie 12-04-2017 11:57 PM

On another EVIL Trump story that the media is NOT reporting:

The President donated his entire 1st quarter salary to The National Park Service
His second quarter salary...he donated to education.
And his latest, the 3rd quarter salary he donated to HHS for help with the opiate addiction crisis.

You won't see that on CNN or MSNBC. They NEVER talk about the good things the President does. And they don't talk about the economy, jobs, wages, etc

They are "proud" of themselves for being part of the "resistance" instead of being truthful journalists.

JFK 12-05-2017 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22100022)
You don't understand this subject Mark.

Trump didn't "take away" any "national parks".

What was done before was a misuse of the Antiquities Act. The act was originally made (in 1906) to allow the President to proclaim things as "National MONUMENTS".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiquities_Act

In other words...an Indian burial mound or a historical home, etc.

In the last couple of decades...Presidents figured out that this was a "loophole" which allowed them to do MASSIVE Federal land grabs without the consent of Congress.

In other words...the Federal Govt. taking AWAY the land from the people of the states.

Today President Trump returned a lot of land to the state of Utah. Where it had always been since Utah first became a state. In other words the exact same way it was until Dec. 28,2016 when President Obama, as a lame duck President, "Proclaimed" 1,351,849 acres of Utah land to be a "national monument".

Look it up for yourself. Don't read "opinion" crap. Just read the facts.
It was Presidential over reach at it's very worst.

All Trump just did was return things EXACTLY the way they were exactly one year ago.

No "national park" disappeared and nobody had to say "goodbye" to the land. It's the same as it was just 12 months ago.

There is way too much drama and bias in the media. And then people from other country's read or watch these media sources and come away with a complete misunderstanding.

The media simply can not be trusted anymore. They are lying to everyone at almost every turn to push an agenda to make Trump out to be the "bad guy".

"The media simply can not be trusted anymore." Could it be really ever? Perhaps they have been like this since time began, except we didn't have then means to find out! They are always in someones pocket ! :2 cents:

Major (Tom) 12-05-2017 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22100385)
Your not an alpha bro you're a cuck protecting a crook solely because you play team sports. Alphas are lone wolfs and have a mind of their own regardless of what team they root for :2 cents:

Hey at least you're not as bad as the fake nic troll Helix / Onwebcam / Acepimp logging in within minutes under each nic to push his agenda. And ayoure still hot as fuck, not an alpha though :(


It?s cute that you think I value your opinion enough to jump up on a chair, beat my chest like tarzan and proclaim I?m an alpha man. I am man enough to admit being wrong for calling cocksucker. I?m man enough to admit I don?t have the energy, nor the stamina in my heart, mind, nor fingers to debate with you over your views.

Major (Tom) 12-05-2017 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 22100418)
"The media simply can not be trusted anymore." Could it be really ever? Perhaps they have been like this since time began, except we didn't have then means to find out! They are always in someones pocket ! :2 cents:

That?s a good point

crockett 12-05-2017 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22100412)
On another EVIL Trump story that the media is NOT reporting:

The President donated his entire 1st quarter salary to The National Park Service
His second quarter salary...he donated to education.
And his latest, the 3rd quarter salary he donated to HHS for help with the opiate addiction crisis.

You won't see that on CNN or MSNBC. They NEVER talk about the good things the President does. And they don't talk about the economy, jobs, wages, etc

They are "proud" of themselves for being part of the "resistance" instead of being truthful journalists.

Dude that was all over the media, jesus you live in your fox news inspired fairyland.. If he's such a swell guy, how about he pays back the countless millions of tax dollars he has wasted going on golf trips every week end..

This is why you will always be a chump Robbie.. you only see what you want to see.. you rave about 70k getting donated while he robs tens of millions of tax payer dollars..

Obama didnt even take a quarter of the vactions Trump has already taken at tax payers expense and your head was exploding.. Now you completely ignore the waste of millions and champion chump change getting donated..

Also just to prove you are a moron...

Trump's salary to fund Antietam battlefield restorations - CNNPolitics

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.52cce79dc530

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/03/u...mp-salary.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whi...ervice-n742206

Where is Trump?s paycheck going?

Oh look how the horrible anti christ liberal media totaly didnt repprt that,

Paul Markham 12-05-2017 12:32 AM

American Presidents and politicians selling off American assets. And you only notice it now!!!

AMAZING.

Bladewire 12-05-2017 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 22100421)
It?s cute that you think I value your opinion enough to jump up on a chair, beat my chest like tarzan and proclaim I?m an alpha man. I am man enough to admit being wrong for calling cocksucker. I?m man enough to admit I don?t have the energy, nor the stamina in my heart, mind, nor fingers to debate with you over your views.

Damn you reel me in when you man up like that 🔥🔥🔥 So much better than that cuck bullshit you've been spewing fuck that shit dude. When the media says something they don't like it's "they can't be trusted" or "it's a conspiracy" facts are facts and reality bites sometimes man!

Bladewire 12-05-2017 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22100442)
Dude that was all over the media, jesus you live in your fox news inspired fairyland.. If he's such a swell guy, how about he pays back the countless millions of tax dollars he has wasted going on golf trips every week end..

This is why you will always be a chump Robbie.. you only see what you want to see.. you rave about 70k getting donated while he robs tens of millions of tax payer dollars..

Obama didnt even take a quarter of the vactions Trump has already taken at tax payers expense and your head was exploding.. Now you completely ignore the waste of millions and champion chump change getting donated..

Also just to prove you are a moron...

Trump's salary to fund Antietam battlefield restorations - CNNPolitics

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.52cce79dc530

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/03/u...mp-salary.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whi...ervice-n742206

Where is Trump?s paycheck going?

Oh look how the horrible anti christ liberal media totaly didnt repprt that,

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

Facts are like Kryptonite to Trumplestiltskins :1orglaugh

ironwebmaster 12-05-2017 01:11 AM

Message from Europe:

We're still waiting for you to impeach this dude. Any plans or you riding it out proudly?

Best regards,
Europe

directfiesta 12-05-2017 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22100283)

I have personally hiked those parks by the way. And yeah, they ARE parks. I did it in 2015 BEFORE Pres. Obama grabbed the land.
They were beautiful then. And they are still beautiful now.

Congrats on your business :thumbsup

I was not aware that you had cattle and that you brought them with you hiking in the parks...

No cattle ??? Oups, so you are in the ' energy business ' ... like oil drilling, fracking, .....

No, you are not ?

So you should know that the monuments and parks were still open to CITIZENS for their activities such as your hiking , or fishing or hunting ......

This move is just Trump's personnal agenda : erase what ever the black man did .....:2 cents:

Rochard 12-05-2017 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDynasty (Post 22099764)
Do you think when trump is out of office someone will go and correct the dumb shit he did?

We can only hope.

Robbie 12-05-2017 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22100856)
Congrats on your business :thumbsup

I was not aware that you had cattle and that you brought them with you hiking in the parks...

No cattle ??? Oups, so you are in the ' energy business ' ... like oil drilling, fracking, .....

No, you are not ?

So you should know that the monuments and parks were still open to CITIZENS for their activities such as your hiking , or fishing or hunting ......

This move is just Trump's personnal agenda : erase what ever the black man did .....:2 cents:

Bro, I don't know what you think I was saying in my post.
But you obviously misunderstood what I was trying to say.

Let me clarify it for you: I was saying that YES...the parks were open BEFORE Pres. Obama did the land grab. And YES, they are still open now...and YES, they will still be open afterwards.

Pretty sure I said that over and over. But you were focusing in on whatever your own thoughts are on this matter?

Anyway, the point is and shall remain: It was a Federal land grab of enormous proportions done by the stroke of Pres. Obama's pen mis-using the Antiquity's Act.

You can't tell me that any sane person really believes that millions of acres of LAND is a "monument".
A "monument" is something like The Washington Monument. Or the Lincoln Monument.
A "monument" has never been and never will be...a bunch of land.

That was my point all along. The Feds taking over the state's land is not the way the govt. is SUPPOSED to work.
What Trump did was restore the land to the state of Utah where it rightfully should be.

You may disagree with that. You may think it's great for the bureaucrats in Washington D.C. to just TAKE that land from the state of Utah.

And that is a valid disagreement.

All that other stuff you posted is just plain out irrelevant.

astronaut x 12-05-2017 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22100067)
Reality is...he is the most liberal Republican President ever.


How's your portfolio?

baddog 12-05-2017 12:20 PM

How dare he return land to the state and follow up on campaign promises.

baddog 12-05-2017 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22100460)
American Presidents and politicians selling off American assets. And you only notice it now!!!

AMAZING.

Stop believing everything you read on GFY. He is not selling off assets.

Bladewire 12-05-2017 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22100970)
Bro, I don't know what you think I was saying in my post.
But you obviously misunderstood what I was trying to say.

Let me clarify it for you: I was saying that YES...the parks were open BEFORE Pres. Obama did the land grab. And YES, they are still open now...and YES, they will still be open afterwards.

Pretty sure I said that over and over. But you were focusing in on whatever your own thoughts are on this matter?

Anyway, the point is and shall remain: It was a Federal land grab of enormous proportions done by the stroke of Pres. Obama's pen mis-using the Antiquity's Act.

You can't tell me that any sane person really believes that millions of acres of LAND is a "monument".
A "monument" is something like The Washington Monument. Or the Lincoln Monument.
A "monument" has never been and never will be...a bunch of land.

That was my point all along. The Feds taking over the state's land is not the way the govt. is SUPPOSED to work.
What Trump did was restore the land to the state of Utah where it rightfully should be.

You may disagree with that. You may think it's great for the bureaucrats in Washington D.C. to just TAKE that land from the state of Utah.

And that is a valid disagreement.

All that other stuff you posted is just plain out irrelevant.

Robbie put that big dick of yours back in your pants you're pissing all over yourself :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Sarn 12-05-2017 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22099962)
Clinton 2020!!

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Originally Posted by ironwebmaster (Post 22100502)
Message from Europe:
We're still waiting for you to impeach this dude. Any plans or you riding it out proudly?
Best regards,
Europe

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Robbie 12-05-2017 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22101450)
How's your portfolio?

I don't have a portfolio anymore. The housing market collapse and subsequent economic downturn prompted me to sell off everything back in 2013.

Too bad. I would be doing fantastic now with the market at new record levels on a daily basis (and about to take off even further with tax reform and corporate tax cuts). But at the time I had to do what I had to do.

Millions of retirees are seeing their personal wealth skyrocket as their retirement funds and 401K accounts are now at record highs.
Great news for all of those people who saved and invested their money. :)

Dead 12-06-2017 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 22100418)
"The media simply can not be trusted anymore." Could it be really ever? Perhaps they have been like this since time began, except we didn't have then means to find out! They are always in someones pocket ! :2 cents:

https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/walter_cronkite :thumbsup

Grapesoda 12-06-2017 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22099761)
Fuckhead Trump just took away federal protection for over a million acres of national parks, something that Obama fought to keep.

Trump shrinks Utah monuments in historic move - CNNPolitics

mark pls pay attention to the news.... one of big ears last creepy effort other than telling the nation that we are fucked as a people because Mrs Clinton lost the election....

big ears other asshole move was to nationalize about a billion acres of America, of course trump as to undo it... like WTF buy a vowel... :1orglaugh


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