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mineistaken 12-13-2017 04:57 PM

Donald caught lying again
 
So as we know (as per GFY libbies) Donald's tax cut is for the rich.
Yet he managed to fake all these small earners pretending they will pay less in taxes :(
Lying Donald :mad:


mineistaken 12-13-2017 04:58 PM

They are fake crisis actors!

Fat Panda 12-13-2017 05:09 PM

El Trumpo lie? NO FUCKING WAY

!!! FAKE NEWS !!!

CaptainHowdy 12-13-2017 05:10 PM

Taxes are the root of all evil ...

Rochard 12-13-2017 05:14 PM

They seem to be in a big rush to pass this tax bill. This worries me.

The United States has the largest economy in the world - twenty trillion dollars. This is not something you can toy with or give your "best bet". It seems to me they are guessing and "hoping" that this will work. That is not acceptable. Our economy is doing fine, unemployment is down in the low 4% range... Why take a chance and gamble with our economy if it's already doing good?

mineistaken 12-13-2017 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22115502)
They seem to be in a big rush to pass this tax bill. This worries me.

Maybe because they will lose one senator soon?

TheDynasty 12-13-2017 05:21 PM

Donald lies donald lies

Rochard 12-13-2017 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 22115508)
Maybe because they will lose one senator soon?

Exactly.

They are going to make big changes to the largest economy in the world when everyone is telling us this will be a huge problem and raise the deficit. When government agencies are telling us these things, we need to listen - not "rush it through while we still have have control and can get the votes".

In fact, shouldn't there be a two or three month period required by law where government agencies review this? None of this "let's make changes in the margins in pen just to get this to pass".

Why doesn't the people get to see exactly what we they are passing and have a right to comment on it?

I'm tire of shit being done late at night in back rooms where we don't have time to review anything.

crockett 12-13-2017 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 22115481)
So as we know (as per GFY libbies) Donald's tax cut is for the rich.
Yet he managed to fake all these small earners pretending they will pay less in taxes :(
Lying Donald :mad:


You aren't looking at the big picture.. For certian groups the tax cut will work out well some even in the middle class. Example, for myself the tax cut should be better than before because I have a LLC and thats one of the groups who will benifit..

The problem is the tax cuts flr normal middle class expire after 8 years, so after 8 years most people will be paying more than they pay now. Added to this, they cant even pay for these tax cuts with out borrowing money from China... These tax cuts will raise the national debt over a trillion dollars..

That doesnt even count the money that is needed for roads and so forth that they havent been able to find in any budget for years now..

So once again, Republicans are trying to kick the can down the road and just borrow more money...

mineistaken 12-13-2017 07:11 PM

Rochard, thank Alabama Africans (of course rallied by huge money donors) for this, lol.

RedFred 12-13-2017 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 22115661)
Rochard, thank Alabama Africans (of course rallied by huge money donors) for this, lol.

At least they are Americans. Which country do you live in?

Bladewire 12-13-2017 07:18 PM

Oh look the fake nic foreigner is making new threads licking Donald Trump's ass deep again in a porn forum.

mineistaken 12-13-2017 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22115658)
You aren't looking at the big picture.. For certian groups the tax cut will work out well some even in the middle class. Example, for myself the tax cut should be better than before because I have a LLC and thats one of the groups who will benifit..

The problem is the tax cuts flr normal middle class expire after 8 years, so after 8 years most people will be paying more than they pay now. Added to this, they cant even pay for these tax cuts with out borrowing money from China... These tax cuts will raise the national debt over a trillion dollars..

That doesnt even count the money that is needed for roads and so forth that they havent been able to find in any budget for years now..

So once again, Republicans are trying to kick the can down the road and just borrow more money...

Refreshingly solid argument as opposed to ignorant "he makes tax cuts for the rich!" :thumbsup

bronco67 12-13-2017 07:50 PM

Wow. They'll save 600 dollars so they can do home renovations.

What fucking home renovations are you going to do with 600 dollars? Get a new toilet?

This is a dog and pony show to help sell a shitty tax bill.

mineistaken 12-13-2017 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22115691)
Wow. They'll save 600 dollars so they can do home renovations.

What fucking home renovations are you going to do with 600 dollars? Get a new toilet?

This is a dog and pony show to help sell a shitty tax bill.

There were others, saving more, but cool for you to pick the smallest one example :)

And they were not making much so 600 bucks is something they can actually feel.
By the way - if you are handy you can do lots of renovation with that, like one full room for example (buy paint, buy new laminate floors etc). One room per year :thumbsup

ErectMedia 12-13-2017 09:02 PM

Trumptastic Day! :thumbsup

Robbie 12-13-2017 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22115646)
Exactly.

They are going to make big changes to the largest economy in the world when everyone is telling us this will be a huge problem and raise the deficit. When government agencies are telling us these things, we need to listen - not "rush it through while we still have have control and can get the votes".

I'm tire of shit being done late at night in back rooms where we don't have time to review anything.

Lowering our taxes and letting us keep our own fucking money is not going to hurt the economy. WTF is wrong with you?

And as for making "big changes" and doing it with no review...you just described how ObamaCare was passed in 2010 when Scott Brown won as a Republican in Massachusetts to replace the deceased Ted Kennedy. The Dems rushed through ObamaCare to make sure he couldn't vote (it wouldn't have passed if he had been allowed to vote).
Remember Pelosi famously saying that they had to vote on it before they could read it? And now she is complaining? What a fucking hypocrite she is.

What is happening with passing tax cuts is the exact same thing your beloved Obama, Pelosi, and Reid did in 2010 to pass ObamaCare.

Except THIS time they are going to take less of our money instead of doing a job-killing, economy crushing takeover of 1/6th of the economy (health care) that was done in 2010.

So tell me Rochard...you think we SHOULDN'T get to keep more of the money we earn?
And you think that leaving more money in people's hands won't be a good thing for the American people?

I just can't fathom how you and the Democrat Party could possibly be against that. It's just mind-numbing to see people asking to please let the govt. take their money away from their own families. :(

mineistaken 12-13-2017 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22115757)
I just can't fathom how you and the Democrat Party could possibly be against that.

Obstructionists. Even against people interest. Shame.

Bladewire 12-13-2017 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22115691)
Wow. They'll save 600 dollars so they can do home renovations.

What fucking home renovations are you going to do with 600 dollars? Get a new toilet?

This is a dog and pony show to help sell a shitty tax bill.

I saw that press conference would absolute and total bullshit only the stupidest of stupids would go for that


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