Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 22173475)

and refurbish some of our older ones.
Pentagon planning two new nuclear weapons

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22173490)

Its a pity they don't put as much effort into defence as they do into first strike attack, then again if America had a fail safe defence missile shield most of the military wouldn't be needed, and you can have that.

Sad but true.

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 22173475)

and refurbish some of our older ones.

Pentagon planning two new nuclear weapons | On Air Videos | Fox News

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22173583)

List of countries planning to attack the USA:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22173640)

I didn't watch the video because a prefer to read (it's much faster and more informative). What exactly is new in those nukes? They can teleport to any place on Earth in second or they can travel in time? Maybe they are more powerful than RS-28 Sarmat aka Satan 2 which is able to burn out (literally) a whole Texas?

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 22173652)

Smaller nukes with cleaner yields is pretty much the bottom line. Not city destroyers but viable for use tactical nukes.

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22173490)

Its a pity they don't put as much effort into defence as they do into first strike attack,

Sad but true.

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22173670)

Russia is doing exactly the same. and what is even funnier is that both of them always say its for "self defence"

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 22173676)

We are now going to build a new type of nuke and a cleaner type of nuke.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22173682)

I don't know who the States are going to use these tactical nukes against, but Russia has a clear doctrine for that:

1) The US aircraft carrier groups.

2) The NATO bases in Europe. Like the US one in Poland.

That's clear enough, no? And yes, that's a weapon of defense.



What for? You will send cleaner nukes back to China which will attack you with ICBM's (and it will... sooner or later)?

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 22173703)

Any country which desires to commit suicide and has the capability to launch ICBM's against the US or its allies is of course free to do so. Our military policy is understood by the Nuclear Powers on this earth. They will be destroyed.

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 22173643)

Any and every country that thinks they have the capability of successfully harming the perceived national interests of our country without suffering massive consequences. In other words only countries with foolish leaders.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22173709)

Maybe. But the States will be destroyed first (that's what the first strike means). And Chineses know that. They are still ruled by Communist party and they spending a lot on their army - Asians are learned to wait...

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 22173739)

The Chinese are smarter than to commit suicide.

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22173733)

you are the only ones planning invasions and nobody else...countries trying to nuke up is a direct reaction to your invasions and nothing else...nobody is panning to invade you...

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22173742)

You wish :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 22173748)

There is not a country on the earth that can successfully invade us at this point in time and we are going to try and keep it that way. We on the other hand do not presently lack that capability.

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22173763)

yes this is what I have been saying the whole time...the US army is a massive waste of money and it is a classic protection racket...the money you guys waste on it would have served the people of the USA much better if it was invested in creating something else rather than war...

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 22173778)

It is precisely because of our military power that no country on this earth can successfully invade the U.S. and we in turn have the ability to invade others. And we intend to keep it that way. We also have military obligations to other countries/allies.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22173664)

So Americans have opened a world of tactical nukes? Congrats, guys you did something that was done by Soviet Union in 50's :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22173490)

Its a pity they don't put as much effort into defence as they do into first strike attack, then again if America had a fail safe defence missile shield most of the military wouldn't be needed, and you can't have that.

Sad but true.

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22173991)

http://www.unz.com/wp-content/upload...china-2050.png

vs gdp

http://akarlin.com/wp-content/upload...usa-gdp-11.jpg

USA and China are on a direct collision courses.

Except.. China will have more money, more technology, more soldiers and more weapons. And we are getting to that stage now in many areas, its just going to take one dumb fuck move to push China into an arms race then its all on, or over depending on how you look at it.

USA can't fight it either because you simply do not have the population and the ONLY way for the USA to retain its current quality of life for Americans.. is to trade more with China.

Dammed if you do and fucked if you don't situation.

Originally Posted by druid66 (Post 22174111)

i don't understand why China and US would be on collision course?
china already conquered whole world with their cheap products i see no reason for devastating war. only reason for war for china would be will to wipe out japan - they (chinese) have all rights to wipe japan from map of the world after what japanese did to them during course of history. but looks like chinese prefer just to sell their products than revenge. am i wrong?

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22173967)

it's really disturbing how some of you talk about nukes like it's something cool or a competition of who has the better ones.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22174081)

we had nukes that could be launched from morter lauunchers..

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22174081)

The only reason the US will now revamp our nuclear arsenal is because Putin restarted the arms race by developing new nuclear weapons..

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22174252)

Nukes is the only thing that prevents WWIII.

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22174333)

should you casually threaten with them or use them in "my nuclear penis is bigger than your nuclear penis"? I don't think so.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22174345)

It doesn't matter that you think. "my nuclear penis is bigger than your nuclear penis" is the only reason we have no WWIII today.

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22173991)

http://www.unz.com/wp-content/upload...china-2050.png

vs gdp

http://akarlin.com/wp-content/upload...usa-gdp-11.jpg

USA and China are on a direct collision courses.

Except.. China will have more money, more technology, more soldiers and more weapons. And we are getting to that stage now in many areas, its just going to take one dumb fuck move to push China into an arms race then its all on, or over depending on how you look at it.

USA can't fight it either because you simply do not have the population and the ONLY way for the USA to retain its current quality of life for Americans.. is to trade more with China.

Dammed if you do and fucked if you don't situation.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22174633)

It's one thing to have the manpower and the technology to war, but it's another thing to win.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22174273)

And who're going to fight this way? Mexicans or Canadians? BTW, Soviet tactical nukes of 50's can also be delivered by mortar launchers, but at least it has some sense, because they are intended to be used against NATO forces on our own continent. Right now they are considered obsolete. There are low range mobile missile launcher for that. E.g. Iskanders (SS-26 Stone) in Kaliningrad are able to deliver a 50kt nuke (which is worth 3.5 Hiroshimas) to Warsaw in less than 2 minutes.



What? Please be more specific here. What exactly Putin did? You Americans are like kids. Right now Russia simply replaces SS-18 (Satan) with RS-28 (Satan 2). That's not some revamp or an arm race. That's just a planned upgrade of obsolete weapons - they have served their time and have to be utilized. What's wrong with that? Do you still drive Ford of 30's? The same applies to ICBM's - we have to replace them by the newer ones.

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22173490)

Its a pity they don't put as much effort into defence as they do into first strike attack, then again if America had a fail safe defence missile shield most of the military wouldn't be needed, and you can't have that.

Sad but true.

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22174333)

but maybe i'm just a hippie that believes it's better to drink a beer with people from all over the world instead of trying to kill each other

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22174705)

Well that's one thing Americans would fully understand :P

In the event something does go down, with the exception of an unfortunate mistake, by then China will be Americas biggest trading partner and likely to be the biggest trading partner of any allies that are left after Trump, which is the catch 22, you strike them, your actually striking yourselves.

Australia's a class example, allies were are! but reality is 80% of our income now comes from China.

Originally Posted by ruff (Post 22174120)

What we really need is a 9 mm nuke. Something we can fire out of a pistol at some fuck in a drive-by.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22174804)

In 2014 is was outed that Russia was developing nuclear torpedoes as well as the Satan 2. That's what has restarted the arms race..

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22175251)

You're the type of people war mongers love. Hitler swept across Europe because of people like you and it was only Churchill who saw the danger.

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22173490)

Its a pity they don't put as much effort into defence as they do into first strike attack, then again if America had a fail safe defence missile shield most of the military wouldn't be needed, and you can't have that.

Sad but true.

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22175500)

13:46 nuclear contamination, the price which we pay for this

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22175524)

When someone like Navalny will come to power, you will see the difference...

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 22173475)

and refurbish some of our older ones.

Pentagon planning two new nuclear weapons | On Air Videos | Fox News

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22177783)

..Putin has asked Bush. Jr. to accept Russia into NATO - yes, for real...

Originally Posted by druid66 (Post 22177918)

fuck me, that's a fact?