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crockett 05-27-2018 09:18 AM

Ivanka gets 5 new trademarks in China while Trump drops prohibition on ZTE
 
Nothing to see here no corruption or use of office for family member's personal gain.. It's something like 10 trademarks Ivanka has been granted in china since her dad became president.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/...b0568a880c0a0d

Meanwhile, some 72 hours before his tweet about ZTE, China quietly agreed to loan $500 million to an Indonesian theme park project in which the president is a partner. Chinese banks agreed to loan an additional $500 million to the project.


Remember when Republicans were outraged at the thought Chelsea might work at the Clinton foundation?

dyna mo 05-27-2018 09:21 AM

fact: trump is pro-china.

Bladewire 05-27-2018 09:22 AM

Hypocrites :1orglaugh

Congress is pushing back against Trump on ZTE though, in a bipartisan manner, he might not get away with it.

crockett 05-27-2018 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22277093)
fact: trump is pro-china.

Yeah, I'm sure he is when they are also loaning him money for his own projects.. Basically, all Trump's rhetoric about MERICA 1st = Him first.

dyna mo 05-27-2018 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22277095)
Yeah, I'm sure he is when they are also loaning him money for his own projects.. Basically, all Trump's rhetoric about MERICA 1st = Him first.

China didn't even have to do that, they've played him like the petulant boyish manfool he is.

Rochard 05-27-2018 10:42 AM

We should have an investigation!

Grapesoda 05-27-2018 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22277088)
Nothing to see here no corruption or use of office for family member's personal gain.. It's something like 10 trademarks Ivanka has been granted in china since her dad became president.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/...b0568a880c0a0d

Meanwhile, some 72 hours before his tweet about ZTE, China quietly agreed to loan $500 million to an Indonesian theme park project in which the president is a partner. Chinese banks agreed to loan an additional $500 million to the project.


Remember when Republicans were outraged at the thought Chelsea might work at the Clinton foundation?

welcome to the businesses world - you are now an adult :2 cents:

BaldBastard 05-27-2018 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22277093)
fact: trump is pro-china.

Its more.. china is pro trump

politicians that can be brought are chinas preferred friends, business as normal for them tis the Asian way.

..keep in mind Xi is bent on closing the technological gap, dominating domestic markets and establishing global leadership in advanced sectors such as semiconductors, robotics and artificial intelligence. The official aim is to steadily displace foreign components, achieving 40% self-sufficiency by 2020 and 70% by 2025.

What's trumps plan again?... that's right Clean Coal!

70% self sufficient in technology, which is currently your biggest export to them.. in 7 years. Official Goal.. that's billions, so what's a few hundred million to keep trump out of the way.

dyna mo 05-27-2018 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22277179)
Its more.. china is pro trump

politicians that can be brought are chinas preferred friends, business as normal for them tis the Asian way.

wrong.

trump's sold out his base on china, isn't following through on massive tariffs on china, is bailing out corrupt ZTE, got no guarantees on reducing the trade imbalance, nothing on reducing china ip thievery, and nothing on china forcing US businesses to the back of the line in the chinese economy, all for a few trademarks there for ivanka. please.


China didn't buy all of that with a few ivanka trademarks, trump is simply a horrible deal maker.

BaldBastard 05-27-2018 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22277185)
wrong.

trump's sold out his base on china, isn't following through on massive tariffs on china, is bailing out corrupt ZTE, got no guarantees on reducing the trade imbalance, nothing on reducing china ip thievery, and nothing on china forcing US businesses to the back of the line in the chinese economy, all for a few trademarks there for ivanka. please. China didn't buy all of that with a few ivanka trademarks, trump is simply a horrible deal maker.

Don't forget he pulled out of TPP day one, the only thing really able to slow the growth of China and allow real sanctions to be placed on Russia. Putin had his online clucks fully worked up over that.

China is investing the most in AI, they know its the key

https://www.fhi.ox.ac.uk/wp-content/...s_AI-Dream.pdf

btw Trump got his 500 mil, Ivanka her trade marks and that's what reported, weeks after the events

Makes Ivanka and Jared's initial sales of Visa and Condos look small time.. I wonder what they have been up to since moving to the big league.

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dyna mo 05-27-2018 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22277200)
Don't forget he pulled out of TPP day one, the only thing really able to slow the growth of China and allow real sanctions to be placed on Russia. Putin had his online clucks fully worked up over that.

China is investing the most in AI, they know its the key

https://www.fhi.ox.ac.uk/wp-content/...s_AI-Dream.pdf

meanwhile the USA will own the energy sector and monopolize 3d printing (manufacturing). I could go on.

AI future is not defined. Musk is even wrong on AI.

https://www.cnet.com/news/elon-musk-...-eric-schmidt/

china could bet very wrong on it.

BaldBastard 05-27-2018 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22277203)
meanwhile the USA will own the energy sector and monopolize 3d printing (manufacturing). I could go on.

AI future is not defined. Musk is even wrong on AI.

https://www.cnet.com/news/elon-musk-...-eric-schmidt/

china could bet very wrong on it.

Old horse racing tip... Always bet with the Chinaman.

dyna mo 05-27-2018 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22277200)
btw Trump got his 500 mil, Ivanka her trade marks and that's what reported, weeks after the events

It's already been proven that trump did not get $500 million.

dyna mo 05-27-2018 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22277207)
Old horse racing tip... Always bet with the Chinaman.

I don't have an issue with china doing well. They are not my enemy and their economy needs to do well for their people to thrive as well as everyone on the planet needs their economy to do well, just like America's.

directfiesta 05-27-2018 06:10 PM

no reason for the POTUS to divest from his business ventures .... or show his tax returns ....
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh



crockett 05-27-2018 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22277168)
welcome to the businesses world - you are now an adult :2 cents:

Says the guy who would go ape shit if Hillary did the same.. Very sad, how you cried endlessly about every little thing Obama did and now you turn blind eye and make excuses for outright corruption.

BaldBastard 05-27-2018 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22277211)
I don't have an issue with china doing well. They are not my enemy and their economy needs to do well for their people to thrive as well as everyone on the planet needs their economy to do well, just like America's.

See that's where I differ, very few countries depend on America any more and Trump is going out of his way to expedite that. Sure we get our technology toys from the USA, but actual things.. that maintain our standard of living, the list diminishes monthly.

Which countries do more trade with USA than they do with China, interesting list ;)

I find the current situation alarming and sad.

BTW China picked up another 300 billion in bonds so Trump can keep America running.
Chinas own debt is at 260% of GDP

NatalieK 05-28-2018 03:21 AM

https://scontent.falc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...98&oe=5B78A692


:thumbsup

dyna mo 05-28-2018 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22277357)
See that's where I differ, very few countries depend on America any more and Trump is going out of his way to expedite that. Sure we get our technology toys from the USA, but actual things.. that maintain our standard of living, the list diminishes monthly.

Which countries do more trade with USA than they do with China, interesting list ;)

I find the current situation alarming and sad.

BTW China picked up another 300 billion in bonds so Trump can keep America running.
Chinas own debt is at 260% of GDP

You don't understand. The world's economies are tied to us big guys, if the USA or China economy crashes, so goes the world. You seem to look at things like Trump does, transactionally. That's too simple. Just like you simply think USA only keeps running due to a bond purchase by China. But that jab was just your anti-Americanism showing

MaDalton 05-28-2018 07:10 AM

if this wasn't the real world, it would be an excellent sitcom.

2MuchMark 05-28-2018 07:47 AM

Republicans would lose their shit if Hillary Clinton did just one of the hundreds of wrong things Trump has done.

crockett 05-28-2018 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22277449)
You don't understand. The world's economies are tied to us big guys, if the USA or China economy crashes, so goes the world. You seem to look at things like Trump does, transactionally. That's too simple. Just like you simply think USA only keeps running due to a bond purchase by China. But that jab was just your anti-Americanism showing

Well to be fair, with out the bonds the US govt would shut down, because our govt is spending far more money than we take in. So it would cause a shut down where the govt kept only vital offices operational, just like when it happens over budget deals. There would be shit tons of people out of work, none of the national parks are open and it costs our economy hundreds of millions.
This is why the tax cuts were ridiculous and short sighted because Republicans cut some programs for the poor then spent all that money on shit they wanted. They also spent all the "potential" gains from the tax cuts..


A fiscal conservative would beat trump with a dirty broom but sadly fiscally conservative Republicans went extinct along with their morals & so called family values..Republicans and Democrats as far as the economy goes are the exact same one side gives all the money to big business the other side tries to save the middle class. Both spend recklessly for their own reasons..

dyna mo 05-28-2018 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22277490)
Well to be fair, with out the bonds the US govt would shut down, because our govt is spending far more money than we take in. So it would cause a shut down where the govt kept only vital offices operational, just like when it happens over budget deals. There would be shit tons of people out of work, none of the national parks are open and it costs our economy hundreds of millions.
This is why the tax cuts were ridiculous and short sighted because Republicans cut some programs for the poor then spent all that money on shit they wanted. They also spent all the "potential" gains from the tax cuts..


A fiscal conservative would beat trump with a dirty broom but sadly fiscally conservative Republicans went extinct along with their morals & so called family values..Republicans and Democrats as far as the economy goes are the exact same one side gives all the money to big business the other side tries to save the middle class. Both spend recklessly for their own reasons..

lol, I certainly don't need a lecture on the debt market.

The fact is it was a bond auction, anyone could have bought those bonds, if China didn't some other entity certainly would.

you've obviously missed the fact that MrBB is a raging anti-American.

celandina 05-28-2018 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22277142)
We should have an investigation!


Fuck, not another Muller :1orglaugh

celandina 05-28-2018 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22277465)
if this wasn't the real world, it would be an excellent sitcom.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a3/5a...ffe15df302.jpg

Maybe a re make of this :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

DBS.US 05-28-2018 02:46 PM

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/

2MuchMark 05-28-2018 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22277168)
welcome to the businesses world - you are now an adult :2 cents:

Give me a break. If Chelsea Clinton received 5 trademarks from China after a Hillary visit, you and every other republican on GFY would lose your minds.

crockett 05-28-2018 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 22277688)

Clinton is not POTUS nor a elected official.. Care to comment on current events or is that all you have? Blame Hillary?

crockett 05-28-2018 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22277776)
Give me a break. If Chelsea Clinton received 5 trademarks from China after a Hillary visit, you and every other republican on GFY would lose your minds.

She doesn't have just 5 she has at least 10. She got 5 soon as Trump was elected..

crockett 05-28-2018 07:25 PM

Democrats are now pushing for a ethics investigation over this..

Did Trump Violate Ethics Rules With China Theme Park Deal? House Democrats Demand Federal Investigation Into $500 Million Loan

Bladewire 05-29-2018 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22277788)

As it should be. They aren't the racist xenophobic dictatorship Trump supporters want us to be.

shake 05-29-2018 06:05 PM

Wonder if he gets paid in bitcoin or still the old way.


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