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dyna mo 06-13-2018 08:20 AM

Cohen flips
 
https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-lawy...ry?id=55861988


Cohen, now with no legal representation, is likely to cooperate with federal prosecutors in New York, sources said. This development, which is believed to be imminent, will likely hit the White House, family members, staffers and counsels hard.

crockett 06-13-2018 08:50 AM

I love the fact all these scumbags are getting bled dry defending themselves.

Steve Rupe 06-13-2018 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22286390)
https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-lawy...ry?id=55861988


Cohen, now with no legal representation, is likely to cooperate with federal prosecutors in New York, sources said. This development, which is believed to be imminent, will likely hit the White House, family members, staffers and counsels hard.

Not good news for the Donald in my opinion. Manafort or Cohen or maybe even one of the women will bring the Donald down.

OneHungLo 06-13-2018 09:06 AM

Sounds like a real slippery slope when you consider Trump/Cohen attorney–client privilege :2 cents:

Bladewire 06-13-2018 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22286419)
Sounds like a real slippery slope when you consider Trump/Cohen attorney–client privilege :2 cents:

So far 99% of the more than 3.7 million documents seized by the FBI raid at Cohen's premises have been deemed admissable for the case against Trump & Cohen. As of last week, only 162 of the items reviewed by Judge Jones were considered privileged.

What a tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive.

Seems there's a hell of a lot more business between Trump & Cohen and very little attorney client work. :2 cents:

onwebcam 06-13-2018 10:27 AM

There's nothing he can flip about.. A President can't be impeached or charged for "crimes" prior to taking office. This is just the left grasping at straws before the report drops tomorrow that Trump is being briefed on today.

What would it matter to his lawyer if he was to cooperate? That's what lawyers are for.. To help their client... It would be more likely that he was being uncooperative....

JFK 06-13-2018 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22286472)
There's nothing he can flip about.. A President can't be impeached or charged for "crimes" prior to taking office.

what about after ? :2 cents:

2MuchMark 06-13-2018 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22286472)
There's nothing he can flip about.. A President can't be impeached or charged for "crimes" prior to taking office. .

So any crime he committed beforehand is ok with you and should be ignored?

Bladewire 06-13-2018 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22286480)
So any crime he committed beforehand is ok with you and should be ignored?

They see it as him winning the golden ticket. They don't think of right & wrong. They only think of the rules, of what they see as a "game".

They see it as once POTUS, and for the rest of your life after, you & your family are untouchable for criminal acts, to preserve American legacy of first families.

onwebcam 06-13-2018 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22286480)
So any crime he committed beforehand is ok with you and should be ignored?

This is/was determined by both the DOJ and Congress. Most likely because of "witch hunts" such as this.. Take it up with them.. Nevermind, you're not even an American.

onwebcam 06-13-2018 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 22286476)
what about after ? :2 cents:

Trump stepped in the door knowing there was an ongoing investigation.. You can be damn sure he didn't give them anything or we would have already heard about it....

bronco67 06-13-2018 11:05 AM

This doesn't mean he's flipped.

Although it could be the first step toward flipping.

Busty2 06-13-2018 11:09 AM

No problem CHUMP will just pardon him, so long as he keeps his big mouth shut :thumbsup:thumbsup

dyna mo 06-13-2018 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22286506)
This doesn't mean he's flipped.

Although it could be the first step toward flipping.

I went ahead and called it. He's flipped.

PR_Glen 06-13-2018 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22286492)
This is/was determined by both the DOJ and Congress. Most likely because of "witch hunts" such as this.. Take it up with them.. Nevermind, you're not even an American.

It was determined that he couldn't be convicted while in office. That has nothing to do with whether he can be impeached or not. If evidence was ever to be made clear against him specifically impeachment would be eminent and he could then be convicted after.

Surely you recall Nixon's being pardoned after he resigned? Even that stirred up a lot of trouble at the time.

onwebcam 06-13-2018 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22286541)
It was determined that he couldn't be convicted while in office. That has nothing to do with whether he can be impeached or not. If evidence was ever to be made clear against him specifically impeachment would be eminent and he could then be convicted after.

Surely you recall Nixon's being pardoned after he resigned? Even that stirred up a lot of trouble at the time.

Impeachment has to do with his official duties as President.. It would have to be an offense as sitting President. He can not be impeached for crimes prior to Presidency...

crockett 06-13-2018 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22286419)
Sounds like a real slippery slope when you consider Trump/Cohen attorney–client privilege :2 cents:

There is no attorney/client privilege if they were committing crimes..

crockett 06-13-2018 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22286563)
Impeachment has to do with his official duties as President.. It would have to be an offense as sitting President. He can not be impeached for crimes prior to Presidency...

He can be impeached because the sky is blue if Congress decides to impeach him..

crockett 06-13-2018 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Busty2 (Post 22286509)
No problem CHUMP will just pardon him, so long as he keeps his big mouth shut :thumbsup:thumbsup

You don't seem to understand what "flipped" means... If he's flipped that means he's agreed to work with the prosecution and will have to provide info on what they want or he gets charged.

It's pretty certain there is more than enough evidence that would allow the NY DA to charge him as well and Trump can't pardon that.. Cohen is dirty as they come and its pretty certain he will never practice law again and he will get locked up for many, many years if he doesn't work with Muller..

onwebcam 06-13-2018 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22286581)
He can be impeached because the sky is blue if Congress decides to impeach him..

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Nope.

Here's you some WaPo reading

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-ap...-PM.png&w=1484

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.3521c344b5f3

RedFred 06-13-2018 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22286563)
Impeachment has to do with his official duties as President.. It would have to be an offense as sitting President. He can not be impeached for crimes prior to Presidency...

A 2nd grade civics class would serve you well.

onwebcam 06-13-2018 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22286601)
A 2nd grade civics class would serve you well.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-ap...-PM.png&w=1484

Rochard 06-13-2018 01:59 PM

This is by far the biggest and most important investigation the United States government has ever had. We are investigating a sitting President for working with a foreign government to influence and rig a US election. The largest investigative agency in the country - if not the entire world - is turning over every stone to find out what happened. They will get to the truth.

Anyone who believes there wasn't collusion is kidding themselves. We can start with George Papadopoulos and Carter Page and their activities. Micheal Flynn worked indirectly for the Russian government. And please don't tell me a Russian government attorney claimed to have "dirt on Hillary Clinton" causing the top three people in the Trump Campaign to drop everything was really a meeting about adapting Russian children.

Then we have Cohen. According to the Steele Dossier, Cohen met with the Russians in Prague. Cohen denies this, but the FBI seems to evidence that Cohen did in fact go to Prague through Germany. Why in the world would an attorney for Trump, who does real estate deals in NY and has multiple taxi cab companies, be sneaking into Prague under the radar - and then lying about it?

Keep in mind during Watergate over sixty people were charged with crimes, and most of them were found guilty and served time. This is going to be devastating to the United States government and for the entire country.

Cohen is going to flip like a little bitch.

Rochard 06-13-2018 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22286563)
Impeachment has to do with his official duties as President.. It would have to be an offense as sitting President. He can not be impeached for crimes prior to Presidency...

You couldn't be more wrong.

President Clinton was impeached for getting a blow job in the Oval Office. That hardly qualifies as "official duties" of the President.

onwebcam 06-13-2018 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22286614)
You couldn't be more wrong.

President Clinton was impeached for getting a blow job in the Oval Office. That hardly qualifies as "official duties" of the President.

You really are an idiot. You debunked yourself in your own response. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

kane 06-13-2018 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22286596)

This is from the Constitution:
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The President, Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors.
It's up to Congress to decide if the charges are worthy of impeachment. There is no law on the books about whether or not they can be impeached for things they did before getting into office. I would imagine it would depend on what the charge was.

Busty2 06-13-2018 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22286587)
You don't seem to understand what "flipped" means... If he's flipped that means he's agreed to work with the prosecution and will have to provide info on what they want or he gets charged.

It's pretty certain there is more than enough evidence that would allow the NY DA to charge him as well and Trump can't pardon that.. Cohen is dirty as they come and its pretty certain he will never practice law again and he will get locked up for many, many years if he doesn't work with Muller..

No i do understand very well, but so far this is conjecture and supposition just because he changes his legal team it's not proof of him flipping. Unless you guys have other info ?

Bladewire 06-13-2018 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22286601)
A 2nd grade civics class would serve you well.

He's a non industry foreigner with an alt right fake nic pretending to be a Southern Republican American.

He's shown a lack of basic understanding of filing income taxes, special elections & freedom of the press in America.

He says he owns multiple properties and is retired & wants to remain completely anonymous and not prove anything he says is true. Typical foreigner alt-right hate troll back story. :1orglaugh

onwebcam 06-13-2018 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22286618)
This is from the Constitution:


It's up to Congress to decide if the charges are worthy of impeachment. There is no law on the books about whether or not they can be impeached for things they did before getting into office. I would imagine it would depend on what the charge was.

The quote I posted is via Congress' own determination... The DOJ has taken up the issue as well.

They could have impeached Clinton for numerous things prior to taking office but they didn't.. They impeached him for the one "ethical" thing they had while in office..

dyna mo 06-13-2018 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Busty2 (Post 22286619)
No i do understand very well, but so far this is conjecture and supposition just because he changes his legal team it's not proof of him flipping. Unless you guys have other info ?

According to FOX news, Hillary used deep state to coerce Cohen to flip.

xClips Jim 06-13-2018 03:14 PM

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...ouhgoxxwgk.jpg


https://politics.theonion.com/kid-wh...ump-1826806871


Kid Who Mowed White House Lawn To Flip On Trump

WASHINGTON—Saying the decision represented what was best for himself and for the nation, Frank Giaccio, the 11-year-old boy best known for mowing the White House lawn last September, told reporters Wednesday that he has decided to flip on Trump. “After extensive discussion with my legal representatives, I’ve realized that the right move for me is to cooperate with the special counsel and tell them everything I gleaned about the president while mowing the Rose Garden lawn late last year,” said Giaccio, explaining that as he watered a row of tulips close to an open West Wing window, he overheard the commander in chief reveal potentially incriminating information related to his finances, undisclosed interactions with foreign agents, and his intentions while firing former FBI director James Comey. “The stakes surrounding this case are higher than ever, and it’s time for me to cooperate. Despite my choice, I remain steadfast that neither I nor my lawn-mowing company have done anything wrong.” At press time, sources close to the special counsel stressed that Giaccio had no choice but to cooperate after the FBI raided his house in and seized his lawnmower and safety goggles.

Rochard 06-13-2018 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22286617)
You really are an idiot. You debunked yourself in your own response. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You said impeachment can only take place if a crime is committed during course of "official duties" of the US President. You are wrong. In the case of President Clinton, none had to do with "official duties" of the US President. The impeachment charges came from him lying under oath during the Whitewater Investigation. None of this had anything to do with the "official duties" of the President.

Acepimp 06-13-2018 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22286613)
This is by far the biggest and most important investigation the United States government has ever had. We are investigating a sitting President for working with a foreign government to influence and rig a US election. The largest investigative agency in the country - if not the entire world - is turning over every stone to find out what happened. They will get to the truth.

^^ This is what we call Trump Derangement Syndrome, induced by a steady onslaught of fake news. It's very sad to see Rochard in this mental state. But don't worry, tomorrow is Trump's birthday, and he will be giving us the long-awaited Inspector General report on FBI corruption. The entire Democrat party is about to go down in flames.

:1orglaugh

Rochard 06-13-2018 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22286665)
^^ This is what we call Trump Derangement Syndrome, induced by a steady onslaught of fake news. It's very sad to see Rochard in this mental state. But don't worry, tomorrow is Trump's birthday, and he will be giving us the long-awaited Inspector General report on FBI corruption. The entire Democrat party is about to go down in flames.

:1orglaugh

So we aren't involved in a massive investigation to see if the President colluded with a foreign government to rig an election in his favor?

directfiesta 06-13-2018 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22286691)
So we aren't involved in a massive investigation to see if the President colluded with a foreign government to rig an election in his favor?

... and later try to get Russia back in the G-8 ....

Damn, Rochard, you are a twisted conspiracy nut ..... :)




/sarcasm

crockett 06-13-2018 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22286480)
So any crime he committed beforehand is ok with you and should be ignored?

Its all about Hillary man, they gotta lock her up... one of these days..

crockett 06-13-2018 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22286660)
You said impeachment can only take place if a crime is committed during course of "official duties" of the US President. You are wrong. In the case of President Clinton, none had to do with "official duties" of the US President. The impeachment charges came from him lying under oath during the Whitewater Investigation. None of this had anything to do with the "official duties" of the President.

Not to mention the entire white water investigation was about real estate deals Clintion made prior to being elected POTUS.

crockett 06-13-2018 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22286691)
So we aren't involved in a massive investigation to see if the President colluded with a foreign government to rig an election in his favor?

You are trying to talk logic to the type of guy who would wave a confederate flag while claiming he's a true MERICAN.. Oblivious to the fact that the confederates succeeded from America tried to form their own country and were traitors to our country and the constitution..

Bladewire 06-13-2018 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22286691)
So we aren't involved in a massive investigation to see if the President colluded with a foreign government to rig an election in his favor?

Mueller released docunents to the court yesterday stating that our 2018 elections are actively being interfered with by unindicted parties.

Mueller warns that election, politics meddling by foreigners is still happening

onwebcam 06-13-2018 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22286705)
Its all about Hillary man, they gotta lock her up... one of these days..

3PM Eastern the real story about the email server is revealed.. Meaning you have less than 24 hours to make excuses for her.

Rochard 06-13-2018 08:06 PM

If Trump has done nothing wrong, this will be a nothing burger. Right?

I mean... I'm sure Cohen never went to Prague, right?

GAMEFINEST 06-13-2018 08:11 PM

He will flip, no other choice, his family is everything.

Too bad he didn't think of his family while doing dirty business

onwebcam 06-13-2018 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22286748)
If Trump has done nothing wrong, this will be a nothing burger. Right?

I mean... I'm sure Cohen never went to Prague, right?

He didn't.. It was the wrong Cohen... About 15 people have verified his whereabouts during that time. The had access to the FISA database. They ran his name and it spit out results for every "Michael Cohen" This access is how Mike Rogers caught on to their scheme.. It's also why he shut it down. They then used the Ohr's to get information via the State Dept. Bruce Ohr worked for State Dept and the put his wife Nellie on at Fusion GPS.

This same thing happened with the bank records and the wrong "Michael Cohen" which is why you have multiple Michael Cohen's stepping forward, from other countries I might add, and saying nope, that's my transaction and my company.

crockett 06-13-2018 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22286733)
3PM Eastern the real story about the email server is revealed.. Meaning you have less than 24 hours to make excuses for her.

So in 24hrs we are all going to be told all your conspiracy theories are true.. So if they aren't what will your excuse be? Deep State cover up?

Bladewire 06-13-2018 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22286752)
So in 24hrs we are all going to be told all your conspiracy theories are true.. So if they aren't what will your excuse be? Deep State cover up?

You need to rember onwebcsm is a lying alt-right troll.

Cihen stopped his suit after Mueller's proof Cohen was in Prague. Cohen falsely sued 3 entities about his Prague lie. They will be suing Cohen to the grave after the evidence comes out in trial.

Trump lawyer Michael Cohen drops lawsuits against BuzzFeed, Fusion GPS over Steele dossier

"In a court document filed Wednesday, Cohen's lawyer, David Schwartz, served notice that the lawsuit against BuzzFeed and four of its employees had been dropped.

A recent report from McClatchy said that Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating alleged Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election, has found evidence that Cohen did travel to Prague.

Cohen filed the Buzzfeed lawsuit in January in New York, claiming that the "entirely and totally false" allegations in the dossier had damaged his reputation."

onwebcam 06-13-2018 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22286752)
So in 24hrs we are all going to be told all your conspiracy theories are true.. So if they aren't what will your excuse be? Deep State cover up?

Tomorrow is the Clinton email conspiracy report..


Sessions defends firing Comey, warns DOJ report could prompt more terminations | TheHill

Do note, it will likely stop short of fingering Obama or Clinton.. But those being charged will likely finger their participation... (McCabe: "I'll sing for immunity") Trump isn't going to take those two down. He's going to let the others rat them out to save their ass. This is why everyone is being represented by a lawyer connected to (likely being paid by) either Hillary or Obama.

Bladewire 06-13-2018 08:28 PM

↑↑↑ Can NEVER stay on topic. Always has to bring up Clinton or Obama. Can't argue facts always deflects like a week minded bitch :evil-laug

onwebcam 06-13-2018 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22286756)
↑↑↑ Can NEVER stay on topic. Always has to bring up Clinton or Obama. Can't argue facts always deflects like a week minded bitch :evil-laug

Dear dumbass, I'm answering a question about the "Clinton email report" which has to include Hillary since it's about her........

crockett 06-13-2018 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22286755)
Tomorrow is the Clinton email conspiracy report..


Sessions defends firing Comey, warns DOJ report could prompt more terminations | TheHill

Do note, it will likely stop short of fingering Obama or Clinton.. But those being charged will likely finger their participation... (McCabe: "I'll sing for immunity") Trump isn't going to take those two down. He's going to let them rat on each other. This is why everyone is being represented by a lawyer connected to (likely being paid by) either Hillary or Obama.

Ahhh so now you are making excuses ahead of time that Obama and Hillary did nothing wrong... Can you please make up your mind...

It's either Trump and Muller are working together to get the deep state lock Hillary and Obama up as you have claimed time and time again that the Russia investigation is just a cover for your fantasy world..or the Muller investigation is real and Trump's campaign is being investigated for collusion and Trump for Obstruction of Justice..

So tomorrow is the big day and we will hold you too it..

onwebcam 06-13-2018 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22286761)
Ahhh so now you are making excuses ahead of time that Obama and Hillary did nothing wrong... Can you please make up your mind...

It's either Trump and Muller are working together to get the deep state lock Hillary and Obama up as you have claimed time and time again that the Russia investigation is just a cover for your fantasy world..

..or the Muller investigation is real, Trump's campaign is being investigated for collusion and obstruction of justice...

Please take some meds.. you need them..

Trump has said many times he respects the office of the Presidency.. This means that he isn't personally going to take out an ex-President.. Hell, it's probably written in stone somewhere that you don't.. lol He could have outed Bush Sr in the JFK release but he held it back... Until after he dies..

As far as Clinton, His and her daughter are best friends... There again he isn't going to go after her himself...

If others start singing, there's nothing he can do about that.... Let the cards fall where they may..

Mueller's investigation is/was a smoke screen to appease your side while the real investigations went/go on behind the scene..


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