Pics of Trump's criminals aboard an ICE bus bound for detention centers
 

Praise Trump, our God , for keeping us safe from those MS-13 !!!!!

Michael Avenatti (@MichaelAvenatti) Tweeted:
See below. Nothing has changed. What was said this morning is absolutely false. They do not know which child goes with which parent in the vast majority of cases.

https://t.co/7K3B6jjWu3 https://twit...809373696?s=17

More lies and bullshit.

The reason why the children are on the bus. It's a shame removing them from such sanitary living conditions. I believe I see a little baby in a car seat.

https://www.overdriveonline.com/wp-c...1-30-13-40.jpg

Keep it up bladey :evil-laug:evil-laug

https://i.imgur.com/ta63VjI.jpg

Your conflating citizens fleeing a violent poor country to seek asylum in America with children in America being transported in barred prisoner busses and housed in tents in the desert in the middle of summer.

You're clearly a typical Trump supporter not a Republican.

Your nic will start manically creating pro Trump threads and pro Trump posts all day every day, watch.......

Thats funny....the stupidity has gone so far, that Democrats are actively campaigning to get people to leave Democrats

#WalkAway LOL

The most amusing part??? You guys will just respond with more of the same and cause more of the same. Jesus..

the proper way to get asylum is to apply at a port of entry, the wrong way is to sneak over the boarder. do no pass go, do not collect 200$.

Trump is sending a message to the other people that want to flee their country and go to the USA. What is he supposed to do, put them up in a 5 star resort? What they should do is put them all in front of a firing squad and broadcast it live on CNN...Problem solved.

Stay in your own country and deal with it...fuck off!

its as if mexico and other central american countries are actually shit holes (and haiti too!)

Fun fact...

About 320,000 immigrants entered the country last year.

228 of them were ms13.

I just read an article about MS13. Trump seems to think they are a foreign gang. MS13 originated in Los Angeles, California, in the 1980s. In fact, you can argue the United States created MS13 and exported them to other countries.

But, you know, facts never mattered much with Donald.

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Poor Bladewire is having flashbacks of that short bus he rode to school in.

Trump lying to the American people about his new policy, and lying to the asylum seekers and illegsls about why their kids are being taken away and for how long, is more of the problem for me than anything else. A completely unnecessary clusterfuck and unneeded drama.

Trump is taking the asylum seekers children away and putting them in cages with the illegals.

The parents weren't told what's happening they were lied to about why their child was being taken away they said it was temporary 48 hours not for weeks or months at a time and no way to contact them. Completely unnecessary and done completely on purpose by Trump likes to see people suffer he's a very vindictive 72 year old man.

where they originated ~35 years ago and where they are now are two different facts.

Do those countries give free housing and welfare?

MS13 was American born & bred. It's an American created problem that has spread to South of the border.

Trump lies to the world about MS13's origin.

Trump lies to the world and says Democrats want open borders and gangs.

When you have to lie to create fear & hate so you will be given money by the American tacpayers to build a wall with your name on it as your lasting legacy that will live past your death, you're a piece of shit human being :2 cents:

trump lying has nothing to do with my pointing out the fact that the gang has evolved over decades. the fact it originated in LA has no bearing on the issues today. It has no bearing on anything in fact.

sure ... oups , not really ... lol :

So Mexico and Central America should shout that America is not sending them their best , but criminals, rapists , .... tough some are fine people ... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

you're confused and ignorant about the topic. They were still salvadorians. We deported them back to where they came from.

An American made gang travelled South of the border destroying a weaker country.

Trump frames it as keep people south of the border out they're the worst of South America they're gang members rapists & murderers.

Reality vs Trump

Facts vs Trump

Reality & facts always win

we deported illegals that were criminals and you blame US for that.

You're intentionally leaving out one important fact.. It was started by Salvadoran immigrants who were continually deported and returned.. Which means although they may have originally came here legally even the leaders were illegal immigrants. The original purpose of creation was protecting other mostly illegal immigrants from other gangs. It morphed into illegal immigration and drug trade.

Stop spinning .... facts are facts ....

So, if a criminal gang in the USA is mainly constituted of Canadians , this make the origin of that gang CANADA ?????


Really .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh


FACT: MS13 was created in the USA by Salvadorians .... so hard to claim that thdey were " imported " :2 cents::1orglaugh

MS13 was not American made. You really don't need to misrepresent the history and facts of the problem to make it about trump.

i'm not spinning jack shit. I never claimed they were "imported". And I never claimed the gang did not originate in America. In fucking fact, I claimed exactly that.

the funny and sad part about your stance is if these el savadorians cured cancer while in America, you'd be all up in Americans shit exclaiming it's an El Savadorian creation.

so knock it off with the baloney. Smart people know better.

Yes MS13 is an American made gang.

Why are you lying?

Wikipedia is your friend

"Mara Salvatrucha (MS), also known as MS-13 (the 13 representing their Sureño affiliation), is an international criminal gang that originated in Los Angeles, California, in the 1980s. The gang later spread to many parts of the continental United States, Canada, Mexico, and Central America, and is active in urban and suburban areas. "

It's unfortunate you're arguing a yopic you're not educated in.

Google before you speak on that of which you do not know.

They were made up of mostly illegal aliens

https://cis.org/Fact-Sheet/Fact-Shee...s-ICE-20052014

For more than 10 years, ICE's Operation Community Shield has targeted transnational criminal organizations and criminal aliens involved in street gangs. One of the most notorious of these is MS-13, which was originally formed in Los Angeles by illegal alien thugs from El Salvador, but now operates across the United States and across international borders.

Over a 10-year period (2005-2014) ICE arrested approximately 4,000 MS-13 members, leaders, and associates. This represents about 13 percent of all gang members they arrested nationwide (31,000) during that period.
92 percent of the MS-13 affiliated aliens arrested were illegal aliens. Of those, 16 percent had entered illegally at least twice.
Just over half of the MS-13 affiliated aliens ICE arrested were citizens of El Salvador. Among the others, 16 percent were Hondurans, 14 percent were Mexicans, and 8 percent were Guatemalans.
While MS-13 affiliated aliens made up 13 percent of all the arrests, they accounted for 35 percent of the murderers arrested by ICE.






So you can argue, but you would lose because we didn't make this problem, we allowed it to happen. And apparently Donald thinks it does matter, it was Obama that didn't give a shit!

they we el savadorians illegally in America. you're confused on simple words like "originated" and "made".

America didn't make ms13. El Savadorians did.

If you ever wanted to actually discuss/debate a subject with someone who simply sees it differently than you, you'll need to stop attacking and calling them liars for it.

that's not needed, helpful, or nice or respectful. You can turn off the asshole bit every now and then.

America be trying to throw problems on other people... then when those problems get thrown back at us people wanna build a wall lol.

Life dont work that way... theres a reason for all this madness... follow the rabbit hole back to the usual suspects...

Why are you lying?

Obama had the Treasury Department designate MS-13 as a transnational criminal organization drastically cutting off most funding of the gang at the time.

Why are you lying?

2012

Obama administration targets Latino street gang MS-13

2013

Federal agents arrest hundreds in MS-13 gang sweep

Eight MS-13 Members Convicted of Racketeering-Related Charges

source article from your wiki link:

"the rise of the MS-13, from its roots in Honduras and El Salvador to its broad reach across Central America, Mexico and the United States."

https://www.npr.org/2005/03/17/45396...ra-salvatrucha

Facts are facts

You really want to blame others for an American made problem.

From Wikipedia

MS-13 is american born and raised. Deportation made them an international powerhouse. So now america trying to hide they baby they raised.

Heres a tip: MS-13 aint got shit on other american gangs... so while the focus is on MS-13, the other gangs are growing stronger.

Have fun with that. Next, the bloods and crips will be deported back to africa to solve americas problems.

sorry bladewire, source article trumps wiki page every time.

not my rules, rules of debate.

so you're exclaiming that America was wrong to deport extremely violent criminal [illegal] immigrants back to their home countries and ms13 is our fault because we deported them.


According to you: Americans deserves both violence from and credit for ms13 because we deported them for being violent gang members.

got it.

I didnt say any of that. I dont know where u got any of that from... but it explains why your logic is deportation of mexicans solves the problem of americas el salvadorian gang.

when did i ever claim deporting them is the solution?

in fucking fact, I've stated that deporting them led to the expansion.

Nope, made up of illegal aliens, they were born else where

Well, then have a seat and stfu.

Well it wouldn't hurt.

their stance is that since violent murdering el savadorians and honduran immigrants started a gang in America that America is to blame for that and to be given credit for it.

America didn't cause those violent murdering thugs to start a gang beyond our deporting them for being violent murdering thugs, which they were before they got here.

We talking about the gang. The gang was born here, built upon american gang politics... to defend itself from other american gangs. Its motherland is los angeles. Its embedded in the american prison system. It started many decades ago with aliens, today most american members were born here. Same as italian mafia, etc.

Theres no ending it bro. Theres no dropping this problem off somewhere else. Its american made. In America its staying.

no. I prefer keeping my distance from people like you.