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GFED 06-27-2018 06:26 PM

Doctors are shitbags.
 
Huge smelly shitbags. :2 cents:

dillfly2000 06-27-2018 06:31 PM

Funny, I just came back from the docs and pretty Much said the same thing.

Bladewire 06-27-2018 06:39 PM

My current doctor, and one before her, are the best doctors I've ever had.

I had a shitbag corporate doctor once when I was young and worked for the cable company.

I had a shitbag corporate pervert doctor when I was young and worked at the LA Times. He would do physical exams on guys & girls and try to get the guys hard and girls nipples hard. He was fired after enough people complained.

Why do you think all doctors are shitbag?

GFED 06-27-2018 06:55 PM

I went for my evaluation for service dog. I told her I wanted to focus on my physical disabilities and not my mental ones like anxiety and depression. She told me she could refer me to a psychologist and get me on medication. I told her I didn't believe in pharmaceutical medication.

She left the room and didn't come back. I was expecting to go somewhere where they could give me x-rays and an MRI. She just ditched me. I didn't know my appointment was over until the girl that weighed me and took my blood pressure came back and told me.

GFED 06-27-2018 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22295032)
Why do you think all doctors are shitbag?

Because they only care about prescribing pills and referring you to their friends. They're as bad as the scumbag realtors I delt with for 6 months. They're all shitbags too.

onwebcam 06-27-2018 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GFED (Post 22295043)
I told her I didn't believe in pharmaceutical medication.

:2 cents:

GFED 06-27-2018 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GFED (Post 22295044)
Because they only care about prescribing pills and referring you to their friends. They're as bad as the scumbag realtors I delt with for 6 months. They're all shitbags too.

After my contract ran out it only took me two fucking days to sell it on Zillow for what I was asking. Buyer paid all the closing fees. I still got calls about it for over a year. The fucking realtors were holdng back buyers from me. Trying to get me to sell it to their realtor friends for lowball prices.

Bladewire 06-27-2018 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GFED (Post 22295043)
I went for my evaluation for service dog. I told her I wanted to focus on my physical disabilities and not my mental ones like anxiety and depression. She told me she could refer me to a psychologist and get me on medication. I told her I didn't believe in pharmaceutical medication.

She left the room and didn't come back. I was expecting to go somewhere where they could give me x-rays and an MRI. She just ditched me. I didn't know my appointment was over until the girl that weighed me and took my blood pressure came back and told me.

Honestly it's good that you found out what shit she was at this stage. You're great at doing research so you'll find the right doctor soon be your own best advicate, you know what you want & need.

GFED 06-27-2018 07:14 PM

https://i.imgur.com/zsCmYdK.jpg

Shitbags

dyna mo 06-27-2018 07:14 PM

I tend to agree. I just went through major surgery and most the docs are dicks. my orthopedic surgeon is super cool though and a fantastic surgeon. My infectious disease doc is really good too. but the ER docs are all dicks. the PCP is a dick and my endocrinologist is also a dick.

and let's not forget cunty nurses. wow.

GFED 06-27-2018 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22295053)
Honestly it's good that you found out what shit she was at this stage. You're great at doing research so you'll find the right doctor soon be your own best advicate, you know what you want & need.

I'm going to try again with a different doctor. I shouldn't have even mentioned the anxiety or depression. I just get too talkative when it hits. I start feeling faded. Thanks Bladey.

HairyChick 06-27-2018 07:38 PM

Just about every week I see a doctor. Tomorrow is podiatrist for cutting toenails. If you just lightly touch my feet I scream in pain, but she grabs the feet hard.

Next week is neurologist. Very nice and competent but believes less meds are better. Then offers to increase my Morphine by 50%.

I dropped my PCP after she put me on the wrong antibiotic for MRSA.

My sciatic doctor insists on surgery. I refuse and he says I'm not in pain. He can't guarantee he won't sever the spine but I should trust him.

My new retina specialist did a half-assed exam and didn't inform me a year ago I showed signs of glaucoma. When inspecting my eye, she claimed my detached retina surgery was done sloppily. Every eye doctor has commented on how well it was done by the head retina surgeon at Mass a Eye & Ear.

How about the doctor who diagnosed pain behind my shoulder as gout? I have no memory of it but two days later I was admitted to the hospital and they drained two gallons of fluid from one lung.

The doctor who told CNAs to be turn me every hour when first paralyzed. He didn't say to see if I was wet. Four days later I had a large wound on my back so deep you could see to my spine. I still need plastic surgery on it. Six months of pain until it healed.

They give service dogs for loneliness but disabled people need to beg for years and suffer. You need to find a better doctor who understands your needs.

Bladewire 06-27-2018 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GFED (Post 22295063)
I'm going to try again with a different doctor. I shouldn't have even mentioned the anxiety or depression. I just get too talkative when it hits. I start feeling faded. Thanks Bladey.

Awesome plan :thumbsup

GFED 06-27-2018 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PamWinterReturns (Post 22295070)
Just about every week I see a doctor. Tomorrow is podiatrist for cutting toenails. If you just lightly touch my feet I scream in pain, but she grabs the feet hard.

Next week is neurologist. Very nice and competent but believes less meds are better. Then offers to increase my Morphine by 50%.

I dropped my PCP after she put me on the wrong antibiotic for MRSA.

My sciatic doctor insists on surgery. I refuse and he says I'm not in pain. He can't guarantee he won't sever the spine but I should trust him.

My new retina specialist did a half-assed exam and didn't inform me a year ago I showed signs of glaucoma. When inspecting my eye, she claimed my detached retina surgery was done sloppily. Every eye doctor has commented on how well it was done by the head retina surgeon at Mass a Eye & Ear.

How about the doctor who diagnosed pain behind my shoulder as gout? I have no memory of it but two days later I was admitted to the hospital and they drained two gallons of fluid from one lung.

The doctor who told CNAs to be turn me every hour when first paralyzed. He didn't say to see if I was wet. Four days later I had a large wound on my back so deep you could see to my spine. I still need plastic surgery on it. Six months of pain until it healed.

They give service dogs for loneliness but disabled people need to beg for years and suffer. You need to find a better doctor who understands your needs.

:(

I couldn't imagine going through all of that. I have a high distrust of doctors. I think I'd choose a .45 rather than going through all of that. They had my parents on so many meds that they got sicker instead of better. They both developed cancer but that wasn't what killed them.

When in the hospital my dad got potassium poisoning three times before he died of a heart attack. My mom also got potassium poisoning and died of a heart attack while in the hospital. I'm almost positive this is something that happens regularly and not a coincidence.

CurrentlySober 06-28-2018 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GFED (Post 22295024)
Huge smelly shitbags. :2 cents:

i lik Huge smelly shitbags. :2 cents: :thumbsup

Bladewire 06-28-2018 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GFED (Post 22295082)
:(

I couldn't imagine going through all of that.

You are stronger than they want you to think you are 💫




DraX 06-28-2018 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22295059)
I tend to agree. I just went through major surgery and most the docs are dicks. my orthopedic surgeon is super cool though and a fantastic surgeon. My infectious disease doc is really good too. but the ER docs are all dicks. the PCP is a dick and my endocrinologist is also a dick.

and let's not forget cunty nurses. wow.

Western medicine is not what it used to be, mask symptoms but don't fix the cause.

They're as crooked as the politicians.

I try to respect a doctor when respect is earned, but apart from that I always inform them if I'm not satisfied with something specific and that's all the time. :1orglaugh

Unfortunately it goes in, in one ear and out of the other, I guess that's what it's like to be when you're inflated

I see doctors and nurses as dumb libs, they all speak the same language and NO ONE thinks on their own.

Most of the time I don't get along with them. They don't act like professionals in the meaning they went to med school and studied 5-6 years, only to fuck around.

I know there are good doctors around but I don't happen to see any of them.

CaptainHowdy 06-28-2018 03:41 AM

I avoid them as much as I can . . .

PR_Glen 06-28-2018 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GFED (Post 22295043)
I went for my evaluation for service dog. I told her I wanted to focus on my physical disabilities and not my mental ones like anxiety and depression. She told me she could refer me to a psychologist and get me on medication. I told her I didn't believe in pharmaceutical medication.

She left the room and didn't come back. I was expecting to go somewhere where they could give me x-rays and an MRI. She just ditched me. I didn't know my appointment was over until the girl that weighed me and took my blood pressure came back and told me.

If you have anxiety problems and depression issues that goes to the top of the list with any doctor. The second you dismissed their suggestion is the same second they will assume you don't want to be helped. "i don't believe in pharmaceutical medication"? that's their queue to leave the room. That is a pretty ignorant thing to say honestly and i'm very critical of doctors myself... Not wanting to be on medication is normal, much better than the opposite, but dismissing the entire practice of medicine? Yeah, no doctor will listen to anything you have to say after that...

Next time, if you want them to focus on your physical pains instead don't mention mental issues and be specific as to what is bothering you the most. They aren't going to listen to a grocery list of ailments so be selective. If you have to go back for something else do it the next time the next week or something. Also, don't make suggestions if you want something, that's a good way to get ignored. Word it in a way so it is their suggestion. Or suggest it in the form of a question instead. At the end of the day, no matter how smart you think you are they have medicine down a lot better than you or any of us so listening to their ideas every now and then is normally a good idea. I do a lot of my own research myself and have pretty much self diagnosed a number of issues i have had over the years but I at least confirm it with them in a subtle way as to not insult them and this seems much more effective. I'm also wrong sometimes! so they do the tests and let me know for sure either way.

As for the anxiety and depression? Do not ignore that either... That is not small time shit and can weigh down and sink the best of us...

PR_Glen 06-28-2018 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DraX (Post 22295183)
Western medicine is not what it used to be, mask symptoms but don't fix the cause.

They're as crooked as the politicians.

I try to respect a doctor when respect is earned, but apart from that I always inform them if I'm not satisfied with something specific and that's all the time. :1orglaugh

Unfortunately it goes in, in one ear and out of the other, I guess that's what it's like to be when you're inflated

I see doctors and nurses as dumb libs, they all speak the same language and NO ONE thinks on their own.

Most of the time I don't get along with them. They don't act like professionals in the meaning they went to med school and studied 5-6 years, only to fuck around.

I know there are good doctors around but I don't happen to see any of them.

Read what you just typed and try to read it through ANYONE elses eyes and what would you think of this attitude? Why would anyone listen to you being this dismissive ever? With anything?

How is it that politics has consumed you so bad that you could possibly have it infect your mind as to think that someone you don't agree with or like is a 'dumb lib'? We are talking about medicine and health here, what is politicized about that in the least? If someone cuts you off in traffic are they liberals too?

Leave that shit behind, it's not worth it, for real...

Mickey_ 06-28-2018 07:54 AM

The way others interact with you is more often than not highly dependent on how you communicate with them. The art of influence is highly underrated and undertaught.

Sadly, the profession we, the laymen, know the least about, is the one we have to take the most control over for the sake of our health. Your job is to, step by step, build a team of doctors whose values align with yours.

If you pair the above with a three-pronged approach (1: hedge against serious illnesses through lifestyle changes and specialized insurance policies, 2: a team of western medicine professionals, 3: a team of alternative medicine practitioners) you will have done more than most. Dive into biohacking to level up for bonus points.

DraX 06-28-2018 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22295292)
Read what you just typed and try to read it through ANYONE elses eyes and what would you think of this attitude? Why would anyone listen to you being this dismissive ever? With anything?

How is it that politics has consumed you so bad that you could possibly have it infect your mind as to think that someone you don't agree with or like is a 'dumb lib'? We are talking about medicine and health here, what is politicized about that in the least? If someone cuts you off in traffic are they liberals too?

Leave that shit behind, it's not worth it, for real...

How about you instead of pointing fingers at me look at how western healthcare is functioning. Drax i'm sorry to hear you've experienced bad doctors.

You need to understand this:

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mask symptoms but don't fix the cause.
It's really that easy and because of this why would I not have an attitude. I pay my taxes in order to get a well functioning healthcare and doctors that takes care of me the best way possible. Instead they try to save money on me. I'm not barging into a clinic with this attitude, I'm listening first then act accordingly, I experienced the same jargon 100% of the last 5 visits I made. You know what? I stopped going, I don't want nothing to do with healthcare in my country. I just hope I don't get something severe.

dyna mo 06-28-2018 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mickey_ (Post 22295298)
The way others interact with you is more often than not highly dependent on how you communicate with them. The art of influence is highly underrated and undertaught.

Sadly, the profession we, the laymen, know the least about, is the one we have to take the most control over for the sake of our health. Your job is to, step by step, build a team of doctors whose values align with yours.

If you pair the above with a three-pronged approach (1: hedge against serious illnesses through lifestyle changes and specialized insurance policies, 2: a team of western medicine professionals, 3: a team of alternative medicine practitioners) you will have done more than most. Dive into biohacking to level up for bonus points.

this is the advice most often given however, it's much different when applied. I've had docs (and nurses) mock me for mispronouncing medical terms when I asked them questions about a condition I have. I've had a doc point to my "smartphone there" and do my own research on my condition.

while we are supposed to assume management and responsibility for our health, docs and nurses in reality are against that, in my experience. shutup and do as we tell you is the prevailing attitude.

OneHungLo 06-28-2018 08:30 AM

Part of the problem is you have these idiots labeling their pit bulls as emotional support dogs. Then people like you get punished who legitimately need them

https://i.imgur.com/e0JLpDw.png

DraX 06-28-2018 08:33 AM

This is a true story that happened to me 2 years ago, got an appointment. Before this meeting I had low expectations because of what I mentioned earlier. Anyway I educated myself on the issue before meeting up.

I meet a doctor specialized in general medicine, I could quickly see they had no interest in trying to help me. Which is why I took over the discussion and presented my theories. The doctor said to me translated from my own language:

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I'm sorry but it's too many years ago that I educated myself on this particular topic
:1orglaugh

You know what I did instead of degrading myself again for another appointment to another doctor? I researched, examined the symptoms, went to Germany, paid for blood work that I specifically wanted. Got the test results, diagnosed myself and gave myself treatment. :1orglaugh :thumbsup

Citizens in my country DIE because of mediocre healthcare.

Tax money down the drain...and a bottomless bag of cash for immigrants and failed integration. Traitors...:2 cents:

dyna mo 06-28-2018 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22295326)
Part of the problem is you have these idiots labeling their pit bulls as emotional support dogs. Then people like you get punished who legitimately need them


GFED 06-28-2018 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22295159)
You are stronger than they want you to think you are 💫




I like this.

Bladewire 06-28-2018 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22295292)
Read what you just typed and try to read it through ANYONE elses eyes and what would you think of this attitude? Why would anyone listen to you being this dismissive ever? With anything?

How is it that politics has consumed you so bad that you could possibly have it infect your mind as to think that someone you don't agree with or like is a 'dumb lib'? We are talking about medicine and health here, what is politicized about that in the least? If someone cuts you off in traffic are they liberals too?

Leave that shit behind, it's not worth it, for real...

Your talking to one of the alt-right trolls fake nics. When you block his nics, GFY is a lot more tolerable. When you interact with one of his nics in a challenging way he'll logon with his other fakes, and back himself up, as he did in this thread.

Kind if interesting that 3 Alt-right hate nics, that hate doctors, logged in within minutes of each other to back up his first nic that posted isn't it?

Bladewire 06-28-2018 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GFED (Post 22295451)
I like this.

There's so much out there to inspire you & guide you, just stay open to it and don't let that black hole suck you in :thumbsup

Mickey_ 06-28-2018 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22295308)
this is the advice most often given however, it's much different when applied. I've had docs (and nurses) mock me for mispronouncing medical terms when I asked them questions about a condition I have. I've had a doc point to my "smartphone there" and do my own research on my condition.

while we are supposed to assume management and responsibility for our health, docs and nurses in reality are against that, in my experience. shutup and do as we tell you is the prevailing attitude.

I hear you, many of them have a God complex or have bad experiences with absolute nincompoops trying to self-diagnose with WebMD. I get and sympathize with a small part of their arrogance.

But in my view, 80% of success here is attitude. Treat them with respect, stroke their ego if you must but make them understand that they are a SERVICE PROVIDER to YOU. Simply one of many options and that YOU will make the final decision about your health while taking their guidance, input and knowledge into consideration.

The fact of the matter is that Western medicine is optimized for two things
1) Blanket, non-customized treatment of the masses
2) Profits

The task at hand is to take charge, outsmart the system and attempt to cherrypick the good parts to the best of your abilities. Obviously not always easy, but the best you can do is good enough.

CaptainHowdy 06-28-2018 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22295330)

These are stupid times indeed . . .

DraX 06-28-2018 10:33 PM

PR Glen, you should check out my reply, do you see things differently or am I still being judged?

Bladewire 06-28-2018 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 22295534)
These are stupid times indeed . . .

Never underestimate the tenacity of unique spirits to want to be seen.

DraX 06-29-2018 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22295815)
Never underestimate the tenacity of unique spirits to want to be seen.

^^^ Hates America and anyone who dares to support the sitting president.

dyna mo 07-20-2018 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mickey_ (Post 22295532)
I hear you, many of them have a God complex or have bad experiences with absolute nincompoops trying to self-diagnose with WebMD. I get and sympathize with a small part of their arrogance.

But in my view, 80% of success here is attitude. Treat them with respect, stroke their ego if you must but make them understand that they are a SERVICE PROVIDER to YOU. Simply one of many options and that YOU will make the final decision about your health while taking their guidance, input and knowledge into consideration.

The fact of the matter is that Western medicine is optimized for two things
1) Blanket, non-customized treatment of the masses
2) Profits

The task at hand is to take charge, outsmart the system and attempt to cherrypick the good parts to the best of your abilities. Obviously not always easy, but the best you can do is good enough.

sorry, that's not how it goes usually, in my experience and in a study

Doctors Give Patients 11 Seconds To Explain Reason For Visit Before Interrupting
https://www.studyfinds.org/doctors-g...escribe-visit/

wehateporn 07-20-2018 04:14 PM

Buying any pharmaceutical product is funding crimes against humanity, so would make you a criminal :2 cents:

wehateporn 07-20-2018 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DraX (Post 22295183)
Western medicine is not what it used to be, mask symptoms but don't fix the cause.

They're as crooked as the politicians.

I try to respect a doctor when respect is earned, but apart from that I always inform them if I'm not satisfied with something specific and that's all the time. :1orglaugh

Unfortunately it goes in, in one ear and out of the other, I guess that's what it's like to be when you're inflated

I see doctors and nurses as dumb libs, they all speak the same language and NO ONE thinks on their own.

Most of the time I don't get along with them. They don't act like professionals in the meaning they went to med school and studied 5-6 years, only to fuck around.

I know there are good doctors around but I don't happen to see any of them.

:thumbsup:thumbsup :2 cents:

wehateporn 07-20-2018 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GFED (Post 22295063)
I'm going to try again with a different doctor. I shouldn't have even mentioned the anxiety or depression. I just get too talkative when it hits. I start feeling faded. Thanks Bladey.

They know they can't make much commission out of you, they lose interest :2 cents:

NatalieK 07-21-2018 02:23 PM

https://prisonphotography.files.word.../twin-bags.jpg


doctors are not shit bags :2 cents:


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