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slapass 08-09-2018 06:44 AM

Meuller investigation
 
Does anyone think he really has anything on Trump? We know Trump dictated the memo lying about the meeting. But other than that, do we have anything of substance?

Busty2 08-09-2018 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 22318746)
Does anyone think he really has anything on Trump? We know Trump dictated the memo lying about the meeting. But other than that, do we have anything of substance?


I sincerely hope he does :thumbsup and i'd like him to release the details about a week before the mid terms

2MuchMark 08-09-2018 07:26 AM

Judging by Trump's endless crying on Twitter, I'd say he's getting alot.

slapass 08-09-2018 04:12 PM

If he did it was coordinating and accepting the troll factory with the one company that used the stolen data. Maybe add in Wikileaks.

slapass 08-09-2018 04:13 PM

You would think he had killed someone the way he lies and goes on about it.

kane 08-09-2018 04:15 PM

At this point you have to assume he either has nothing and is grasping at straws to find something (think Ken Starr with Clinton where he started with Whitewater and ended up busting him for lying about a blowjob) or he has a lot and needs to organize it. I tend to believe the later.

When the report comes I don't know if it will implicate Trump himself in anything terrible but I have a feeling a few around him, including his son, may be in deep shit. That said, Trump, himself, sure acts like someone who is guilty.

Bladewire 08-09-2018 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 22319049)
If he did it was coordinating and accepting the troll factory with the one company that used the stolen data. Maybe add in Wikileaks.

That's what I'm thinking.

I never knew what a hateful person he was. All those years of The Apprentice I watched, I thought he was egotistical & smug but no idea he was so hateful and full of easy to prove lies.

slapass 08-09-2018 04:33 PM

He always makes everything extreme. Not sure in this case it proves guilt. I think we also have to add in this is a very poorly informed person.

TampaToker 08-09-2018 04:37 PM

As of right now i have not seen anything but that could change.....

crockett 08-09-2018 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 22318746)
Does anyone think he really has anything on Trump? We know Trump dictated the memo lying about the meeting. But other than that, do we have anything of substance?

Obstruction of justice is a given. Dont forget the entire reason there is a Muller investigation is because Trump fired Comey who was in charge of the Russian investigation.

The key issue here is that Muller's investigation then took over the previous Comey investigation but it also had a new and completely different secondary focus and that is Obstruction of justice


My bet is it will be hard to pin collusion on Trump himself unless there are tapes.. lordy let there be tapes..

My bet is Kushner and Jr go down for collusion over the meetings and lying on their security clearances and Trump along with Nunes and a few others go down for Obstruction of justice.

For the record there will be other crimes as well.. Conspiracy, tax evasion, money laundering and so forth.. expect to see a case like we see with Manafort now.

Rochard 08-09-2018 04:42 PM

Do I think Meuller has anything on Trump? Yes. Oh, without a doubt, yes.

Was there collusion with the Russians? I think so. The Trump campaign was more than willing to accept help and information (stolen, hacked information) from the Russian government, and the Russian government was obviously trying to help the Trump campaign. Does anyone think they went into the meeting in Trump Tower and they didn't talk about the hacked / stolen emails? I'm sorry, everytime we turn around there was secret communications with the Russians. Micheal Flynn had to resign because he was having secret conversations with the Russian ambassador. Jeff Sessions also had three secret meetings with the Russian ambassador. Some of these secret meetings happened before Trump was elected. It's stunning that any US Government official can have a meeting with the Russian ambassador and not tell the State Department about it.

I think the Russian government told the Trump campaign they had dirt on Clinton, and briefly worked together on the timing. Perhaps they even passed some of the details over to the Trump campaign.

If not there is a long trail of obstruction of justice.

You know Mueller is investigating his finances too; He will be sure to find a long trail of laws broken there too.

Everyone around Trump is dirty and has broken laws. His campaign manager is on trail right now, Jeff Cohen is about to face charges. Thirty others are facing trails. Don't tell me Trump is innocent in all of this.

It's amazing to watch.

OneHungLo 08-09-2018 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22319055)
That's what I'm thinking.

I never knew what a hateful person he was. All those years of The Apprentice I watched, I thought he was egotistical & smug but no idea he was so hateful and full of easy to prove lies.

Trump doesn't have shit on you in the hate department.

OneHungLo 08-09-2018 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 22318746)
Does anyone think he really has anything on Trump? We know Trump dictated the memo lying about the meeting. But other than that, do we have anything of substance?

He's got nothing. I think most of you realize that.

Bladewire 08-09-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 22319065)
I think we also have to add in this is a very poorly informed person.

He's the president of the United States, if he's poorly informed, it's because it's his choice, which is even worse actually.

Rochard 08-09-2018 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22319067)
Obstruction of justice is a given. Dont forget the entire reason there is a Muller investigation is because Trump fired Comey who was in charge of the Russian investigation.

The key issue here is that Muller's investigation then took over the previous Comey investigation but it also had a new and completely different secondary focus and that is Obstruction of justice


My bet is it will be hard to pin collusion on Trump himself unless there are tapes.. lordy let there be tapes..

My bet is Kushner and Jr go down for collusion over the meetings and lying on their security clearances and Trump along with Nunes and a few others go down for Obstruction of justice.

For the record there will be other crimes as well.. Conspiracy, tax evasion, money laundering and so forth.. expect to see a case like we see with Manafort now.

And this is where Trump's complete and utter lack of experience comes into play. Trump and his family knows nothing about politics. They couldn't see that by firing Comey it not only didn't solve their problem and end the investigation, but only ensured it would continue and now with new problems.

bronco67 08-09-2018 07:36 PM

There's no way this is all going to evaporate into a nothingburger. At some point in the future, we will know why Manafort was installed in Trump's campaign. We will know who knew about Russian assistance in the Trump campaign and Republican party also. We will know that Trump knew everything.

What do you think those guys are doing for hours on end with millions of pages of documents and tons of witnesses? Are they just playing backgammon? They have the goods ands they're dotting i's and crossing t's like a motherfucker.

Bladewire 08-09-2018 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22319178)
There's no way this is all going to evaporate into a nothingburger. At some point in the future, we will know why Manafort was installed in Trump's campaign.

It's been disclosed in court this week Manafort was completely broke , with no income and millions in debt, when he started working on the Trump campaign for free...





onwebcam 08-09-2018 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 22319050)
You would think he had killed someone the way he lies and goes on about it.

Pretty sure he's going to say he killed Kennedy. Take some heat off Bush Sr

beerptrol 08-09-2018 08:30 PM

People who worked with/for him says he's methodical. He's going slow to make sure he dots every I and crosses every T. If he says Chump did nothing wrong, I would believe him.
Something like this takes time, look and the Bill Clinton and Hillary Investigations which took longer.

Like the attorneys say. If the facts are with you, you argue the facts. If they are against you, you attack the prosecutor and investigation.

My guess Chump has alot to hide and thought he was untouchable because he bribed himself out of trouble or just had to pay fines. No one really dug into his business and where he got his money. Now he's in the Major league with different rules and fucked himself

GAMEFINEST 08-09-2018 08:32 PM

Michael cohen is the key

Rochard 08-09-2018 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST (Post 22319203)
Michael cohen is the key

Cohen is just dirty all around. Typically New Yorker businessman.

Bladewire 08-09-2018 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22319202)
If the facts are with you, you argue the facts. If they are against you, you attack the prosecutor and investigation.

↑↑↑ Truth :thumbsup

crockett 08-10-2018 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22319202)

Like the attorneys say. If the facts are with you, you argue the facts. If they are against you, you attack the prosecutor and investigation.


This is key right here.. Trump lashes out at the media, at the FBI, at pretty much everything or everyone that proves he is a liar or a fraud. If Trump spoke the truth his words would be provable facts. Instead he is constantly shown to be a cheat and a liar so his only recourse is to attack the messenger.

It's simply amazing how easily so many people have been blinded by Trump & the GOP's lies to the point they believe straight up propaganda that can be proven false all because their leaders make the truth tellers the enemy.

The GOP/Republican party is strait up using Hitler's and Stalin's play book on brainwashing people..

kane 08-10-2018 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST (Post 22319203)
Michael cohen is the key

There might be something to this. If you noticed, Trump has become even more unhinged since Cohen got busted and turned against him. Is he worried that Cohen has some real dirt on him that could be very bad for him? Could be.


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