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RedFred 09-29-2018 02:31 PM

Trump already obstructing FBI investigation
 
WASHINGTON — The White House is limiting the scope of the FBI’s investigation into the sexual misconduct allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, multiple people briefed on the matter told NBC News.

While the FBI will examine the allegations of Christine Blasey Ford and Deborah Ramirez, the bureau has not been permitted to investigate the claims of Julie Swetnick, who has accused Kavanaugh of engaging in sexual misconduct at parties while he was a student at Georgetown Preparatory School in the 1980s, those people familiar with the investigation told NBC News. A White House official confirmed that Swetnick's claims will not be pursued as part of the reopened background investigation into Kavanaugh.

Ford said in Senate testimony Thursday that she was "100 percent" certain that Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her when they were both in high school. Ramirez alleged that he exposed himself to her when there were students at Yale. Kavanaugh has staunchly denied allegations from Ford, Ramirez and Swetnick.

Instead of investigating Swetnick's claims, the White House counsel’s office has given the FBI a list of witnesses they are permitted to interview, according to several people who discussed the parameters on the condition of anonymity. They characterized the White House instructions as a significant constraint on the FBI investigation and caution that such a limited scope, while not unusual in normal circumstances, may make it difficult to pursue additional leads in a case in which a Supreme Court nominee has been accused of sexual assault.

The limited scope seems to be at odds with what some members of the Senate judiciary seemed to expect when they agreed to give the FBI as much as a week to investigate allegations against Kavanaugh, a federal judge who grew up in the Washington DC area and attended an elite all-boys high school before going on to Yale.

White House limits scope of the FBI's investigation into the allegations against Brett Kavanaugh

Phoenix 09-29-2018 02:34 PM

That is really too bad

here is a picture of KAv when he was going after another "accused" rapist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_St...,_and_Azar.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_St...,_and_Azar.jpg

2MuchMark 09-29-2018 02:38 PM

Are we surprised? No we are not.

dyna mo 09-29-2018 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 22342160)
That is really too bad

here is a picture of KAv when he was going after another "accused" rapist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_St...,_and_Azar.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_St...,_and_Azar.jpg

kavanaugh must be the Einstein of judges or something, what's so special about him? maybe I'm not getting why he's so special.

onwebcam 09-29-2018 02:43 PM

Dear moron. The Senate limited the scope.. Do you not remember yesterday when they kept saying "Limited scope" over and over again? If they didn't limit the scope then when the FBI discovered who the leakers were there would be charges against congressional staff at the very least..


Also, she filed a xomaint with the PD. It was declined to be investigated because in 1982 the charge would have been a misdemeanor and only had a 1 year statute of limitations.

dyna mo 09-29-2018 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22342165)
Dear moron. The Senate limited the scope.. Do you not remember yesterday when they kept saying Limited scope" over and over again?


Also, she filed a xomaint with the PD. It was declined to be investigated because in 1982 the charge would have been a misdemeanor and only had a 1 year statute of limitations.

they also stated the investigation could include all current allegations.

dyna mo 09-29-2018 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22342165)
nly had a 1 year statute of limitations.

there is no statute of limitations on attempted rape in that state.

onwebcam 09-29-2018 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22342168)
they also stated the investigation could include all current allegations.

If I were Trump I would have used the opportunity to take out a few senate members.. Which he could have done.. This is going to get buried... They (the Senate) limited the scope to protect their own asses

dyna mo 09-29-2018 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22342171)
If I were Trump I would have used the opportunity to take out a few senate members.. Which he could have done.. This is going to get buried...


"take out" like on a date? Trump and Lindsey? sure, I guess. seems weird to me.

RedFred 09-29-2018 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22342165)
Dear moron. The Senate limited the scope.. Do you not remember yesterday when they kept saying "Limited scope" over and over again? If they didn't limit the scope then when the FBI discovered who the leakers were there would be charges against congressional staff at the very least..


Also, she filed a xomaint with the PD. It was declined to be investigated because in 1982 the charge would have been a misdemeanor and only had a 1 year statute of limitations.


Dear alcoholic/rape supporter. Why do you support an authoritarian who meddles in an FBI investigation by telling them who they can and cannot talk to? What country are you from where this seems normal to you?

onwebcam 09-29-2018 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22342169)
there is no statute of limitations on attempted rape in that state.

I'm on my phone.. The doc is floating around.. What I said is exactly what it says.. Laws Change. Whatever they considered as the charge was a misdemeanor in 1982 and had a 1 year statute

onwebcam 09-29-2018 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22342173)
Dear alcoholic/rape supporter. Why do you support an authoritarian who meddles in an FBI investigation by telling them who they can and cannot talk to? What country are you from where this seems normal to you?

Dear moron, I rarely drink (these days) the Senate asked Trump to order it.. He didn't have to do so. And he didn't have to do as they asked in limitations. The fact that he was even asked to order it with people doing like you just did and calling him a dictator out the other side of your face is, well, ridiculously two-faced. I would have told them to GFY.

Meanwhile your boy Mueller is still out there on his unlimited quest with an unlimited budget doing who the hell knows what.

RedFred 09-29-2018 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22342176)
Dear moron, I rarely drink, the Senate asked Trump to order it.. He didn't have to do so. And he didn't have to do as they asked in limitations. The fact that he was even asked to order it with people doing like you just did and calling him a dictator out the other side of you face is, well, ridiculously two-faced. I would have told them to GFY.

You apparently are having difficulty understanding English. I didn't call you an alcoholic, I called you an alcoholic supporter. Did your Russian translator malfunction? Did it not translate this properly either?

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The limited scope seems to be at odds with what some members of the Senate judiciary seemed to expect when they agreed to give the FBI as much as a week to investigate allegations against Kavanaugh, a federal judge who grew up in the Washington DC area and attended an elite all-boys high school before going on to Yale.

SecondFloor 09-29-2018 03:03 PM

Either Blasey or Kavanaugh lied in their testimony.

Kavanaugh was combative, dismissive of questions, and at times totally evasive. He also, with zero evidence, accused democrats of being complicit in a conspiracy to fabricate the charges against him.

Regardless of who lied, ask yourself if we can afford to have a supreme court justice who makes claims like this, based purely on partisan politics rather than evidence. Ask yourself if we should have a justice who can't control his temper when questioned. Who throws questions back in the face of U.S. senators. Kavanaugh has already, many times over, proven that he is unfit for this position.

onwebcam 09-29-2018 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22342179)
You apparently are having difficulty understanding English. I didn't call you an alcoholic, I called you an alcoholic supporter. Did your Russian translator malfunction? Did it not translate this properly either?


Who cares what they expected. They expect him to order the FBI around one day and call him a obstructionist the next.. Sound like someone you know? I would have ordered them to investigate EVERYONE including Senate members. They opened the door. I would have walked all up in it. Also an opportunity for him to go after Avenatti.. You can bet if the shoe was on Obama's foot he would have..

dyna mo 09-29-2018 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22342176)
Dear moron, I rarely drink (these days) the Senate asked Trump to order it.. He didn't have to do so. And he didn't have to do as they asked in limitations. The fact that he was even asked to order it with people doing like you just did and calling him a dictator out the other side of your face is, well, ridiculously two-faced. I would have told them to GFY.

Meanwhile your boy Mueller is still out there on his unlimited quest with an unlimited budget doing who the hell knows what.

Trump very much had to order the investigation. I pointed that out to you yesterday.

dyna mo 09-29-2018 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22342181)
Who cares what they expected. They expect him to order the FBI around one day and call him a obstructionist the next.. Sound like someone you know? I would have ordered them to investigate EVERYONE including Senate members. They opened the door. I would have walked all up in it. Also an opportunity for him to go after Avenatti.. You can bet if the shoe was on Obama's foot he would have..

You mentioned earlier that you're on your mobile, what Galaxy are you calling from?

RedFred 09-29-2018 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22342181)
Who cares what they expected. They expect him to order the FBI around one day and call him a obstructionist the next.. Sound like someone you know? I would have ordered them to investigate EVERYONE including Senate members. They opened the door. I would have walked all up in it. Also an opportunity for him to go after Avenatti.. You can bet if the shoe was on Obama's foot he would have..


Of course you would have, you believe in authoritarian rule which is why you're a cultist.

But maybe you have a chance. With your court ordered therapy background and your Russian roots I think you stand a wonderful chance of going far in the Republican party.

onwebcam 09-29-2018 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22342183)
Trump veryi much had to order the investigation. I pointed that out to you yesterday.

Perhaps politically he HAD too. The fact that they even asked him to solve their problem via the FBI no less is fucking comical.

dyna mo 09-29-2018 03:50 PM

I'm reading that trump barred the FBI from investigating anything to do with his testimony re: drinking.

jtfc. come on.

dyna mo 09-29-2018 04:04 PM

Senator Flake said on Friday that he thought the FBI should handle the investigation by itself; whether the White House’s blatant interference bothers him, or the four other undecided senators who backed him up, will be an important question in the coming days. And the White House’s tactic may backfire

Phoenix 09-29-2018 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22342195)
I'm reading that trump barred the FBI from investigating anything to do with his testimony re: drinking.

jtfc. come on.

You mean so they cant turn a young kid drinking for fun a little too much at times into him not remembering and possibly he did
It because he doesn't remember.

Shitlibs will magic up questions just to trap you later

dyna mo 09-29-2018 04:36 PM

Boys will be boys eh.

beerptrol 09-29-2018 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 22342205)
You mean so they cant turn a young kid drinking for fun a little too much at times into him not remembering and possibly he did
It because he doesn't remember.

Shitlibs will magic up questions just to trap you later

He tried to pass his self off as a choir boy who barely drank, then well maybe a few beers to I liked beer. Getting black out drunk and aggressive fits a pattern. You alt right fucktards try to pass it off as boys will be boys!

His political outburst alone disqualifies him, but as long as he's TeamChump it's all good! His little lies also disqualify him, so it's no wonder Chump wants to limit the investigation!

directfiesta 09-29-2018 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 22342205)
You mean so they cant turn a young kid drinking for fun a little too much at times into him not remembering and possibly he did
It because he doesn't remember.

Shitlibs will magic up questions just to trap you later

I don't recall does not equal I didn't do it...

Bladewire 09-29-2018 04:48 PM

Repukes are protecting an eratically emotional drunk so he can be annointed a judge on the SCOTUS and protect Trump when the will of the people comes down in him. Bye bye GOP

Rochard 09-29-2018 04:56 PM

The President himself has been accused of sexual assault. It's pretty clear he isn't interested in the truth.

jsmih 09-29-2018 06:35 PM

Two people remember the last part of party differently. One has a history of getting black out drunk (don’t know the drinking history of the other). Which conflicting story do you believe? I’ll take the person who doesn’t drink to oblivion.

Everyone knows people who got so drunk they denied or didn’t remember what they did.

Phoenix 09-29-2018 06:44 PM

Got it so everyone in here who drank too much when they were younger is a.....

kane 09-29-2018 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 22342258)
Got it so everyone in here who drank too much when they were younger is a.....

Last I checked, everyone here isn't being accused of sexually assaulting someone while drunk at a party.

dyna mo 09-29-2018 06:55 PM

check out this chart comparing the two re: dodging questions.

she didn't dodge any, he dodged a shit load.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-hearing-chart

yeah, that's an SCJ we can all be proud of eh.

Bladewire 09-29-2018 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22342218)
The President himself has been accused of sexual assault. It's pretty clear he isn't interested in the truth.

Trump said he grabs women by the pussy and it he's able to do it because he's famous. So....

Matt 26z 09-29-2018 07:37 PM

If it isn't limited then it turns into another "Russia investigation" where they look at things totally unrelated to the core matter at hand.

Matt 26z 09-29-2018 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22342292)
Trump said he grabs women by the pussy and it he's able to do it because he's famous. So....

Is there any doubt that the women wanted it or not?

Multi-billionaire grabs you by the pussy.... that's like a date with a royal family prince.

onwebcam 09-29-2018 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jsmih (Post 22342256)
Two people remember the last part of party differently. One has a history of getting black out drunk (don’t know the drinking history of the other). Which conflicting story do you believe? I’ll take the person who doesn’t drink to oblivion.

Everyone knows people who got so drunk they denied or didn’t remember what they did.

Someone she went to school with called her out on twitter today. Named the places they hung out and where they picked up guys "in high school" and asked her to tell everyone about all that.



In other news, at least 1 person (not Kavanaugh) has been referred to the FBI for making false statements to the committee

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoTaxS_U0AA16lD.jpg

The Truth Hurts 09-29-2018 08:24 PM

fbi investigation will backfire on the dems.

crockett 09-29-2018 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22342165)
Dear moron. The Senate limited the scope.. Do you not remember yesterday when they kept saying "Limited scope" over and over again? If they didn't limit the scope then when the FBI discovered who the leakers were there would be charges against congressional staff at the very least..


Also, she filed a xomaint with the PD. It was declined to be investigated because in 1982 the charge would have been a misdemeanor and only had a 1 year statute of limitations.

Oh ok, then he can be confirmed on a limited scope.. He can wear the little judge dress but he cant go to court..

Bladewire 09-29-2018 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22342320)
Oh ok, then he can be confirmed on a limited scope.. He can wear the little judge dress but he cant go to court..

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

BaldBastard 09-29-2018 10:58 PM

I find it incredible that anyone posting in a porn forum would want to see someone like Kavanaugh elevated to the highest court in your country.

Whats Kavanaugh going to do for you? ensure there's a 100,000 extra black babies born that the state needs to look after???

We already know from this administration that as soon as a lawyer represents someone from this industry, their forever referred to as.. "the 3rd rate Pornstar lawyer", that actually has deep long term implications for this industry, having someone like Kavanaugh in the highest court won't resolve that but make it worse.

crockett 09-30-2018 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22342337)
I find it incredible that anyone posting in a porn forum would want to see someone like Kavanaugh elevated to the highest court in your country.

Whats Kavanaugh going to do for you? ensure there's a 100,000 extra black babies born that the state needs to look after???

We already know from this administration that as soon as a lawyer represents someone from this industry, their forever referred to as.. "the 3rd rate Pornstar lawyer", that actually has deep long term implications for this industry, having someone like Kavanaugh in the highest court won't resolve that but make it worse.

You are talking about right wing morons.. They are sane guys who were fooled into being told unions are bad and let the Republicans destroy unions.. Now the same idiots cry because all they get paid is burger king wages and have no benifits, yet cant figure out why...

They routinely vote against their own interests because right wing media tells them its for their own good and that liberals are bad...


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