Trump helped his parents evade taxes, 'including instances of outright fraud'
 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/02/polit...mes/index.html

Surprising isn't it? No, of course not.

Trump, self-made billionnaire ..... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

lol they have been under constant audit for decades

What is more concerning is the 3 terrorist attacks carried out today against some politicians.

Some people are not posting today....hmmm

False flag to garner GOP old white male victimhood sympathy

And you know this how? You work for the IRS?

MAGA should be FTS ?

Let's see...the IRS has audited Trump just about every year of his adult life looking for ANYTHING that they can find illegal.

But the Anti-Trump New York Times has now looked at the same exact tax returns and decided that they know better.

The media in this country is a disgrace.

The economy is heading for another quarter of over 4% GDP growth, Trump just did the new USMCA trade deal replacing NAFTA...but they choose instead to "report" THEIR OWN "expertise" on a guy paying his taxes.

Not reporting any real news mind you...just reporting that their own "reporters" have concluded that Trump "cheated" on his taxes.

It's like they keep recycling shit every couple of months.

It was racist, racist, racist.
That didn't work.

So they switched over to Trump being a womanizer:
Grabbing pussy, grabbing pussy, grabbing pussy.

That didn't work, so next was: was taxes, taxes, taxes.
That didn't work.

So then it was Russia, Russia, Russia.
That didn't work either.

So then they started recycling shit.
Womanizing? "Stormy, Stormy, Stormy"

Then "Russia, Russia, Russia" again.

And now "taxes, taxes, taxes".

None of that is going to work. None of it.
The country is booming. People are going back to work.
4 MILLION less people on foodstamps.
Millions of new GOOD PAYING jobs created thanks to Trump making the U.S. competitive with the rest of the world on corporate tax.

Can't the media just be happy?
Nope.
They are in sheer and abject misery because their beloved Democrat Party couldn't get anything to work. And Trump was labeled a buffoon....and yet, his ideas are WORKING.

The paper was not looking at Donald's taxes, they were looking at his dad's.

cool, we'll just use this instead of facts!!! 'according to an analysis Tuesday from The New York Times' lol what a dope lol!!

mark I need to holler BULLSHIT loud and clear... everything you post is basically media supported slander... what the fuck is wrong with you... are you really that stupid? the stuff you post looks and reads EXACTLY like Nazi propaganda against the Jews… whoops!! sorry I forgot you are against the jews to lol!!!

Has the IRS audited Trump?

Can you show me where it says the IRS has actually told us that they have audited Trump? Not Trump saying that he was audited by the IRS, and not the IRS saying Trump can "release his taxes during an audit"... I want to see where the IRS has actually said Trump has been audited, and what was the result of the audit?

We haven't seen Trump's taxes so.... So we have no idea if any of it was illegal or not.

You seem to be delusional or at best I'll informed. The way Trump has dodged taxes is by have 100s of fake shell companies that he pays for services with at inflated prices.

The IRS short of a RICCO case couldn't actually audit the 500 some companies he uses for this purpose because they have to look at each one separately.

This is why I've always stated once they put Trump in the crosshairs of serious criminal investigation (which is coming) it will be a ricco case.

As apposed to the stuff Trump and Republicans in Congress say?

For someone who hates the guy so much..you don't seem to know much about him

That is interesting to me

you ALWAYS conveniently forget.. I DO NOT FOLLOW the 'info wars' lol!! but when I see people posting 'propaganda' I gotta call BULLSHIT!!! :2 cents:

BTW what the fuck is wrong with you? how long has trump been pres??? and you still think Clinton won.. what the fuck is wrong with you??? every fucking week some other NEW SCANDAL will take trump down.... what the fuck is wrong with you???



read this OUTLOUD until you UNDERSTAND I am sofa king we todd did... there you go.. that should clear it up for you :2 cents:

Hi Robbie,

They didn't look at Donald Trump's stuff, they looked at Fred C Trump's stuff, Donalds Father.

The article also said that "The records reviewed by the Times did not include Trump's personal tax returns or his recent business dealings".

And don't forget, the Donald Trump foundation at least was found to be doing some shifty stuff: https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/19/polit...d-a/index.html, and Trump's whole family is in trouble for it.

...except it's not slander.

And you can read the full investigation here https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...red-trump.html

Here are the takeaways: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/02/u...red-trump.html

And they reviewed 100,000 pages of documents. Did you review any?

From the Article:

And here is Mr. Trump senior's tax return that proves this:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...red-trump.html


There is a ton of information with links to proof including tax returnshttps://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...red-trump.html. You should read it.

What's wrong with Trump? And what's wrong with you for supporting him?

I like to think not.

No, but it's funny that you're mad at me for this, yet think nothing of Trump demonizing the news and calling the media the "Enemy of the People".


Don't get mad at me Grape. You and I believe what we want to believe and even though they are on opposite ends of the Trumpy-spectrum, it doesn't mean we can't be friends.

xoxox!

Mark, what I'm trying to point out is the relentless attempt to hurt the President.

I was watching Rachel Maddow tonight practically CROWING about it on her show.
Remember when she "somehow" got Trump's tax return from the 1990's and "revealed" it on her show...only to be embarrassed when it turned out Trump paid MORE than he had too?

This whole thing is just ridiculous. Over and over and over they TRY to find things to hurt the President.

Why? He is doing a fantastic job. Actually getting things done that our last 4 administrations claimed were impossible.

But they won't stop.

Trump is right...they have lost their minds ever since he won the election.
It's just nonsensical.

Like today with the New York Times making it front page news that Kavanaugh is alleged to have thrown some ice on a guy in a college bar in 1985 when he was 20 years old.

But in the 1990's when Juanita Broderick told her story of Bill Clinton raping her violently and then telling her to "put some ice on that lip babe" as he left her in the room crying...they deemed that story not consequential enough to even publish at all.

The double standards and hypocrisy are sickening.

The main thing that REALLY sticks out to me is CNN, MSNBC, The NY Times, and The Washington Post all agreeing with Hillary and all the Democrat politicians who said that IF Trump didn't accept the results when he lost the election and urge the people to get behind Pres. Hillary Clinton...then he would be "destroying our Democracy"

And now look at what Hillary, the Democrat Party, and the media have done since the first day he was elected.

It's disgusting what they are doing.
Especially when the man's policys are WORKING.

EDIT:
And by the way...the IRS has had all of these documents since they were first filed in the 1990's. Again...what makes a bunch of anti-Trump reporters and people like you and I somehow have more knowledge of what is and isn't allowed when filing taxes?
The Government ALREADY knows all of Trump's finances.

Just like when Democrat Senators demand to see Trump's taxes so they can "prove" he's in bed with Russia.
Guess what? The IRS has ALL of Trump's taxes and IF he were ever a Russian agent being paid by Russia to take over the U.S. (or whatever the crazy conspiracy theory of the Anti-Trump people is)...the Government would ALREADY know it.

Thats not true.. you never call anyone who post right wing propaganda on their bullshit..

Robbie endlessly whined about Obama everyday for 8 years, stood by while Republicans and morons here on GFY called him a Muslim.. Now supports the guy who claimed he wasnt born in this country and has the nerve to bitch at others.. The dumb is strong in this one...

Hypocrisy is in his blood it seems.. Its almost as bad as Mitch McConnell crying about Democrats going after Trump's SC pick.

Robbie one tax cut. Nope, it does not excuse everything nor should it.

Ive been telling you guys for years Robbie is as nuts as onwebcam... Eventually you guys will catch on and stop taking him so seriously, just because he writes 5 paragraphs for every reply.... :1orglaugh

What's interesting to me is you seem to know for a fact Trump gets audited every year. You probably still think that's why he hasn't released his returns.

The best thing about all this is Rachel Maddows triggered Robbie.

there had to have been legions of attorneys combing through the evidence and signing off on it as valid before they would allow a phrase like "outright fraud" to be published in the article. let alone all the nefarious criminal activity the trump family crime syndicate has been up to. generations of criminals.

the actual article is massive! holy shit. I'm going to have to carve out some time tomorrow to actually read it all. I didn't realize it's quite the expose!


has anybody finished it yet? thoughts? dang.

Everybody dose it:2 cents:

?"Trumps Policies Are Working.."

I guess none of you Republicans bothered to read Trumps own appointed Fed Reserves forecasts.

"The median real GDP forecast rose to 2.8 percent, up from 2.7 percent, for this year. There were no changes for 2019 and 2020, and the longer run median forecast remained 1.8 percent."

https://www.federalreserve.gov/monet...bl20180926.htm



So your hero smashed every piggy bank the USA has and from that was able to lock in a 0.1% increase, BUT its going to have ZIP effect on the next 2 years and is set to decline GDP after that... and this is winning?

And the great renamed Nafta trade deal is totally reliant on the people of Mexico and Canada buying more made in America products, do you really think the actions of trump have enticed either population to buy more American products? Trumps trashed brand USA around the world.

And as for Trump and his dads connections, I'd guess they pale to the Trump and Family - Rupert Murdoch and family connections

I'm saying what is there to "excuse"?

The guy has been investigated by a group of Anti-Trump activists in the Mueller team for almost 2 years.
Every media outlet is working overtime to find out anything they can.

Still nothing.

As for "one tax cut". That one tax cut is responsible for improving the lives of millions of Americans and made our country competitive again. Corporations are repatriating trillions of dollars back to us.

Hell, Bill Clinton actually raped women...and was still a great President.
He probably should have gone to jail, but the media and Democrats are hypocritical in every way.

I really don't care if Donald Trump was smart enough to get super rich. Matter of fact...I admire that.
All I really care about is his economic strategy. That's what I voted for.

I could see that someone who is an avid Trump supporter could see it that way. For me though, I just saw her reporting on the Investigation. And when she had the author of the investigation on for the interview, the very first thing Maddow said was "Did I get this right?". This is something that Rachel maddow does all the time to make sure she doesn't make a mistake.


Yes of course. It was alot of hype about nothing. That mistep doesn't necessarily mean that she is wrong this time. You could say it placed a slight dent in her credibility, but it was probably just more embarrassing than anything else.



Well, wait a sec, lets talk about this. When Obama was president (that good old days as I like to call them), "They" was Fox News. I saw them inflate the tea party protests, show video out of context, and all kinds of things. If today, "They" is MSNBC or CNN, I do not see them doing this to Trump.

There are real questions about Trump's Tax returns which he never showed. He demanded that Obama show his birth certificate. Why won't Trump show his tax returns?



Let's clarify that. You and others think he's doing a fantastic job, while others do not. Doesn't he have a responsibility to prove to everyone what a good job he is doing, and answer some very serious allegations?



If I recall, "they" were pretty hard on Obama too. Right or wrong, this is politics and news now.


You know what? If I thought Trump was doing a good job, I would agree with you. But I really think he's doing a terrible job. The summit with Poot was the most incredible thing....


True, but legally, this was assault. And he wasn't charged for it, just questioned. But there is more to this.

Kavanaugh is not on trial for what he may have done when he was a kid. He he was a drunken frat boy, who cares? No one really. He he assaulted some women that's terrible of course, but he's not "on trial" for that. If the assault happened, Congress has another 40 or so judges they can nominate. It appears though that Trump wants Kavanaugh in because he believes that a sitting president can't be convicted of any crimes, and the GOP want him because they believe he will overturn abortion rights.

(On a side note, do you think women should have the right to have an abortion? Just curious).



I don't remember this story or that name at all, but maybe it doesn't matter. Clinton was impeached for this after all, so "they" got him.

That's what we libbies say about you righties all the time! Wow do we have alot in common. :)

It's a long-shot maybe, but the question is "Would Trump refuse to give up power if he lost the election in 2020"?

This is really important because lets say Trump lost in 2020. He would have to give a concession speech to the winner. It is the concession speech that legitimizes the succession of the winner to the role as Commander in Chief. You *know* that Trump will struggle with this and even worse, he could try to delegitimize the election itself.


No that's incorrect. Personal tax forms are confidential. They can only be obtained if Trump himself gave the IRS permission to reveal the returns or if Congress’s Joint Committee on Taxation signed off to allow the disclosure. Trump has refused to give permission.

Actually it was 2 tax cuts! During the Kavanaugh-filled news cycle last week, republicans passed another tax cut.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.0c0965b5877f


Robbie is my boy. I sincerely like Robbie and engaging him on this stuff. We are freaking polar opposites when it comes to all-things Trumpy, and is challenging as hell. Notice that we never insult each other either. This is how everyone on GFY should debate.

Let's face it. She's a she, she's smart, she's outspoken, she's well versed, and she's gay. She could trigger just about anyone.

Not true. And Trump lied to voters about it. Trump's also not a "self-made" billionaire or millionaire as he claimed either. It turns out this is all 100% daddy's money. He's been lying since the beginning and he is still lying.

He is working to get another tax cut thru , mainly about inheritances ...

coincidental ..... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You wont change the brainswashed Robbie , he is part of '' his people '':

If what they are printing is false, Chump can sue them. I bet he doesn't because that will force him to open up his books

Exactly.

Wow guys.
By every demonstrable statistic, Trump is doing a fantastic job as President.

That anyone thinks I'm "brainwashed" when the country is doing so well under his leadership is just astounding.

You have to be pretty "brainwashed" into hating Trump to not be able to open your eyes and see.

Anyway, I've again found myself in a discussion that goes nowhere.
Nobody is going to convince anyone else of anything at all.

Carry on with the discussion. Sorry to have stepped in it. I guess I was just bored because there is no actual porn-related business on here (or anywhere else) to discuss. :(

Now when it all crashes and all the new debt that's growing and growing. Do you promise not to blame Obama ?

I never blamed Obama for anything. I voted for him in 2008.
Just said I was disappointed in what he did and didn't do. I think his over regulation and policys were bad for business.

I think he did exactly what he thought he should do. I just think it turned out that it didn't work.
And what Trump did by rescinding all of Pres. Obama's economic policys in his first few days in office DID work.

Sometimes you don't know until you try something. Pres. Obama tried it, it didn't work...and then politically our leaders are unable to back down from a failed idea. So he just continued on with it.

Economic stagnation was the result.

Why exactly are you hoping that the economy does take a downturn? Why not prosper during the good times? You're old enough to know that this is all cyclical. It will eventually go down again. And then up again. And then down, etc.

History show us this. No economy can boom forever. None ever has.

it's too bad trump's a criminal and an asshole.

It's fun watching the "anti elitist" defend an elitist and his illegal activities to avoid paying taxes all while fucking the working man.

Over inflated prices so they could raise the rent on rent controlled buildings.



Chump isn't for the working man, he's for Chump. He loves taking advantage of the uneducated suckers. Just look at Chump University

seems like a pretty thorough investigation :2 cents: and just saw this

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/03/polit...-st=1538592386

I just watched the NY Times reporter who did the story being interviewed by Shepard Smith.

And Smith actually asked the question that I pointed out. He asked the reporter: "How did you and a group of reporters come to these conclusions, and yet the IRS NEVER flagged any of it"

Boom.

The NY Times reporter who did the story explained that the IRS only looks at each individual year. But THEY looked at a period of a few years and decided that it was a "pattern".

What a joke.

Ahaha both the state of NY and the city will be going after Trump for tax evasion...


"It’s clear to me that there are real ramifications right now to what has been disclosed, either potential violations of law, or in cases where the statute of limitations has ended that there may be very serious civil penalties that can be applied by both the state and the city,” de Blasio said

“The city of New York is looking to recoup any money that Donald Trump owes the people of New York City, period," he added



Maybe Robbie can write 5 more paragraphs defending Trump for tax evasion....

haha good luck with that. This is just posturing and pandering to you liberal smacktards and of course without hesitation you lap it up.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Robbie dindu nuffins wrong...

I can fap to that.

https://yakkun0904.files.wordpress.c...p-fap-meme.jpg

live by the sword die by the sword.

no wonder trump had to cling to the "my father gave me a small loan" story, it hid the decades and decades of tax evasion.

I'm not shocked the trump family crime syndicate dug it roots beginning back in the 40s

Hi Robbie,

Forget what Shep said. Read the article yourself and then see if you still feel the same way. Don't let anyone, even me or Rachel Maddow or Shep Smith give you the only bits and pieces of it.

(Warning though, it's freakin' long. Like, really freakin' long).

It's not postering, Lo. It's the New York Tax Authorities. Trump Taxes: Bombshell Report Attracts New York Authorities''' Attention | Fortune



Not true: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/do...-prostitution/

(Thought I'd throw this in before OneHungLo did).

But again...it doesn't matter what the article says...the reality is the IRS doesn't fuck around.
IF Trump were cheating on his taxes they would catch him. If they did, then he was fined.

The morons at the NY Times do not have more knowledge of taxes than the actual Internal Revenue Service.

That's the point I'm trying to make to you. A group of "reporters" who don't bother reporting real news comes to conclusions from looking at old tax returns.
Hello...that has zero credibility.

And I wasn't listening to Shep or Rachel. I was listening to the answer that the actual reporter who wrote the piece gave.
It can't get any clearer than that Mark.

Trust me...the IRS is a feared agency in this country. Hell, they took down freakin' Al Capone over taxes.
Trump (like all super wealthy people) has been watched like a hawk by the IRS for decades.

You see, the government ALREADY knows Trump's finances.
The ones who don't know them? The rest of the world...including Senators and Representatives of the House.
And of course a bunch of people on a porn forum.

There is a reason for that.
Your tax returns are personal. It's nobody's business.

BUT...if the IRS sees that you are getting money from a foreign country that looks shady? They are all over you.

You can't even get a bank account these days in the USA without sitting down and going into detail all of your finances. And then if you pull out too much money from your account...the bank reports it to the IRS. If you pay for ANYTHING with cash that is a large amount...you get reported to the IRS.

And IF you commit "tax fraud"??? You go to jail. The IRS doesn't need the NY Times to tell them what they already know. That's why the whole story is so dumb.

Bottom line: The IRS already has every tax return of Donald Trump and Fred Trump's lives.
The NY Times is fishing (as usual).

It's a disgrace.