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RazorSharpe 10-10-2018 06:42 PM

Anyone into Schutzhund as a hobby or otherwise?
 
Like title says, am keen to hear from anyone that is into Schutzhund as a hobby or otherwise.

OneHungLo 10-10-2018 06:50 PM

No but I've owned several GSDs.

RazorSharpe 10-11-2018 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22347762)
No but I've owned several GSDs.

My last GSD passed away age 12 about 6 years ago. My wife was devastated as it was the first dog she'd ever had. She's FINALLY come around to getting another and this is what I'm looking at: https://www.working-dog.com/breed/Hohenburg-150861

The last GSD was from a "show line" and since he was a pup had issues with skin allergies and severe hip dyslasia. He was amazingly clever though and the best GSD I've ever had.

We don't have any Schutzhund clubs where I am but I really want to get into the obedience and tracking aspects of the sport. Something fun to do with my new best friend. I will try to find forums that specifically cater to this but wondered if anyone here had any experience in the sport. I'm just trying to educate myself prior to the day I pick the pup up, which will be around the end of January.

Sharon1974 10-11-2018 05:25 AM

Yes. We are training with 3 workline GSD's

We have selected this guy to produce some pups with one of our dogs ( hopefully ) next month: https://en.working-dog.com/dogs-deta...x-vom-Tollhaus

Grapesoda 10-11-2018 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 22347757)
Like title says, am keen to hear from anyone that is into Schutzhund as a hobby or otherwise.

pretty cool, I'm a bit skeptical about such a small dog however I'm sure these are great dogs for an urban environment. in my situation a dog less than 150 lbs is going to be taken out by coyotes. 2 of them would be cool, 1 coyote will confront the dog while another takes out the back legs… there is a 100lb dog here with fake knees...that's how we know how the coyots operate.

my dog is only 150, he lost 20 lbs here at the new place... however ALL the coyotes run when they see him. it's pretty comical too. my dog is kinda blind and mostly sent oriented... the fucking coyotes run around him like in a cartoon... he looks one way a coyote dashes by behind him about 10-15 yards away.... it's pretty funny.

on 2 occasions me and the dog had to rescue people with little dogs... they would be standing in the park holding their little animal yelling while being circled by coyotes...( only 2 or 3, kinda scary if you aren't used to it I guess )

my dog immediately drops into a dead run at the coyotes, which they kinda think is a joke, they trot off looking over their shoulders until they notice my dog is like a line backer.. and he in not stopping.... then they all haul ass and stop fucking around...

having a chance to interact with the natural world is pretty awesome. I have a relationship with a conspiracy of ravens, it's a raven thing... I had a great relationship wit the ravens at the old place... new raven same deal though. they let me know when someone is coming by flying above them, calling to me. at the old place the conspiracy would follow me to the park and scout out the coyotes. when the coyotes are real hungry, they will hunt in the day time.


I'm feeding all the darn birds and humming birds, wondering what that will be like this winter... and I'm working on settling a 'deer' family in that has been in the area. I think it will be cook to have some deer up here and my dog will protect them from the coyotes....


my end goal is a couple of ponies up here in a few years to ride up and down the hill... what a fucking hoot, right? :winkwink:


BTW my fav dog is a pug... only last about a day up here though.... off to get 2 MRI's, one on each shoulder.... I have valium…

RazorSharpe 10-11-2018 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharon1974 (Post 22347893)
Yes. We are training with 3 workline GSD's

We have selected this guy to produce some pups with one of our dogs ( hopefully ) next month: https://en.working-dog.com/dogs-deta...x-vom-Tollhaus

Hi Sharon, is this your first time training in Schutzhund and are you doing this yourself or with a trainer?

K'nox is a handsome fellow. I've been a long time admirer of Pike ( https://www.working-dog.com/dogs-det...-del-Lupo-Nero ), so this breeding was music to my ears. After my last experience with a UK breeder, I was on the lookout for breeders in Czech Republic, Germany or Netherlands. Everything just seemed to align though with, 1) Wife giving in to getting another dog 2) A breeder in the UK that I have only heard awesome things about doing a breeding after 2 years 3) Said breeder using a sire that I've admired for a while.

I've registered my interest with him and I hope things work out or I am going to be very disappointed. I don't know what to make of his message to me. Basically he said, "Not sure if Yuna is pregnant yet, and of course I have no idea what or how many puppies there will be. I will be in touch in due course."

For some reason I feel that he's either had a lot fo interest already and I'm just too late, or that he'd rather see the pups go to experienced handlers. Staying optimistic though; it's all I can do.

RazorSharpe 10-11-2018 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22347907)
pretty cool, I'm a bit skeptical about such a small dog however I'm sure these are great dogs for an urban environment. in my situation a dog less than 150 lbs is going to be taken out by coyotes. 2 of them would be cool, 1 coyote will confront the dog while another takes out the back legs… there is a 100lb dog here with fake knees...that's how we know how the coyots operate.

my dog is only 150, he lost 20 lbs here at the new place... however ALL the coyotes run when they see him. it's pretty comical too. my dog is kinda blind and mostly sent oriented... the fucking coyotes run around him like in a cartoon... he looks one way a coyote dashes by behind him about 10-15 yards away.... it's pretty funny.

on 2 occasions me and the dog had to rescue people with little dogs... they would be standing in the park holding their little animal yelling while being circled by coyotes...( only 2 or 3, kinda scary if you aren't used to it I guess )

my dog immediately drops into a dead run at the coyotes, which they kinda think is a joke, they trot off looking over their shoulders until they notice my dog is like a line backer.. and he in not stopping.... then they all haul ass and stop fucking around...

having a chance to interact with the natural world is pretty awesome. I have a relationship with a conspiracy of ravens, it's a raven thing... I had a great relationship wit the ravens at the old place... new raven same deal though. they let me know when someone is coming by flying above them, calling to me. at the old place the conspiracy would follow me to the park and scout out the coyotes. when the coyotes are real hungry, they will hunt in the day time.


I'm feeding all the darn birds and humming birds, wondering what that will be like this winter... and I'm working on settling a 'deer' family in that has been in the area. I think it will be cook to have some deer up here and my dog will protect them from the coyotes....


my end goal is a couple of ponies up here in a few years to ride up and down the hill... what a fucking hoot, right? :winkwink:


BTW my fav dog is a pug... only last about a day up here though.... off to get 2 MRI's, one on each shoulder.... I have valium…

Luckily for me, all I have to worry about are magpies, cats, hedgehogs, fox and deer.

Sharon1974 10-11-2018 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 22347935)
Hi Sharon, is this your first time training in Schutzhund and are you doing this yourself or with a trainer?

No, we work GSD's for over 15 years now. We train 3-4 times per week.
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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 22347935)
I've registered my interest with him and I hope things work out or I am going to be very disappointed. I don't know what to make of his message to me. Basically he said, "Not sure if Yuna is pregnant yet, and of course I have no idea what or how many puppies there will be. I will be in touch in due course."

For some reason I feel that he's either had a lot fo interest already and I'm just too late, or that he'd rather see the pups go to experienced handlers. Staying optimistic though; it's all I can do.

Well..usually when a popular combination is planned to have pups there are already some or a lot of dog trainers listed for a pup. And also is already determent who has fist, second, third etc choice.

BTW not much to find about Yuna, only IPO1 why?

RazorSharpe 10-11-2018 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharon1974 (Post 22347969)
No, we work GSD's for over 15 years now. We train 3-4 times per week.


Well..usually when a popular combination is planned to have pups there are already some or a lot of dog trainers listed for a pup. And also is already determent who has fist, second, third etc choice.

BTW not much to find about Yuna, only IPO1 why?

Any good books you can recommend for learning the basics of the obedience criteria?

Yeah, I have a feeling I may not get a pup from this guy which would be terribly disapponting.

Yuna just completed her IPO1 last year: https://www.castlehill-kennels.com/yuna-vom-waldwinkel/

Are you active on working-dog?

Grapesoda 10-11-2018 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 22347936)
Luckily for me, all I have to worry about are magpies, cats, hedgehogs, fox and deer.

I've had foxes a few times off and on..

Sharon1974 10-11-2018 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 22347988)
Any good books you can recommend for learning the basics of the obedience criteria?

Yuna just completed her IPO1 last year: https://www.castlehill-kennels.com/yuna-vom-waldwinkel/

Are you active on working-dog?

A bit outdated but very good if you like positive training: https://www.amazon.com/K9-Schutzhund.../dp/B00P8B58W6

We are more a fan of the nepopo training system: NePoPoŽ Training | Bart Bellon – NePoPoŽ

Our dogs are listed on working-dog but we are not active members, not a big fan of their subscription model.

RazorSharpe 10-12-2018 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharon1974 (Post 22348338)
A bit outdated but very good if you like positive training: https://www.amazon.com/K9-Schutzhund.../dp/B00P8B58W6

We are more a fan of the nepopo training system: NePoPoŽ Training | Bart Bellon – NePoPoŽ

Our dogs are listed on working-dog but we are not active members, not a big fan of their subscription model.

Thanks for the links Sharon, very appreciated. NePoPo looks best used by experienced handlers so I may have to stick to positive training instead. I did however watch a few videos on the NePoPo site and those dogs look really intense - pretty cool and scary all at the same time :)


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