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astronaut x 10-19-2018 10:18 PM

Trump is in bed with terrorists
 
Trump and company is trying to sweep the killing of a Saudi journalist under the rug.
These are the same people that brought you Osama Bin Laden.

911 folks. These people will cut your fucking head off for speaking your mind.

Trump is compromised. He is not looking out for American interests. He is looking out for his own.


astronaut x 10-19-2018 10:24 PM

Trump loves the Saudis.

https://proyectopuente.com.mx/wp-con...pg&w=900&h=506

OneHungLo 10-19-2018 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22352697)
Trump and company is trying to sweep the killing of a Saudi journalist under the rug.
These are the same people that brought you Osama Bin Laden.

911 folks. These people will cut your fucking head off for speaking your mind.

Trump is compromised. He is not looking out for American interests. He is looking out for his own.

Look I care for the Saudis as much as you do, but do you really want to get into sanctions and whatever else with them? There would be financial consequences. Many sectors of our economy are tied to the price of oil. Plus they’re heavily invested in quite a bit of tech out here. They do have some influence in Silicon Valley. Things could get ugly and with interest rates rising and our trade war with China it’s probably best to not go down that rabbit hole.

SecondFloor 10-19-2018 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22352700)
Look I care for the Saudis as much as you do, but do you really want to get into sanctions and whatever else with them? There would be financial consequences. Many sectors of our economy are tied to the price of oil. Plus they’re heavily invested in quite a bit of tech out here. They do have some influence in Silicon Valley

It is the absolute height of hypocrisy to sanction Iran for their oppressive regime while cozying up to Saudi Arabia when they impose harsh Sharia law and murder journalists. Yes, please bring on the economic consequences. Trump is asking farmers in the midwest to take a hit while imposing trade tariffs - why is it unreasonable to ask the same to sanction SA, who's economic influence is much smaller than China's in the U.S. ?

astronaut x 10-19-2018 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22352700)
Look I care for the Saudis as much as you do, but do you really want to get into sanctions and whatever else with them? There would be financial consequences. Many sectors of our economy are tied to the price of oil. Plus they’re heavily invested in quite a bit of tech out here. They do have some influence in Silicon Valley. Things could get ugly and with interest rates rising and our trade war with China it’s probably best to not go down that rabbit hole.

I'll be honest. That is about the most reasonable response I would assume a reasonable person would say. With that being said... What the fuck is wrong with you? Why do always have to tow the line for these fucks? You applauded the trade war. Now we are kissing the Saudi's ass who blew up our buildings and killed our people.

Trump is supposed be "TOUGH"... yet he bows like a little bitch to these fucks.

OneHungLo 10-19-2018 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SecondFloor (Post 22352702)
It is the absolute height of hypocrisy to sanction Iran for their oppressive regime while cozying up to Saudi Arabia when they impose harsh Sharia law and murder journalists. Yes, please bring on the economic consequences. Trump is asking farmers in the midwest to take a hit while imposing trade tariffs - why is it unreasonable to ask the same to sanction SA, who's economic influence is much smaller than China's in the U.S. ?

Iran and Saudi Arabia are 2 different animals my friend. I just think we have too much on our plate at the moment, and considering how our economy is still humming along with trade wars and higher interest rates, why try our luck which could derail our economy? They killed off some shady Saud...do you think our government never took out one of our own?

OneHungLo 10-19-2018 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22352708)
I'll be honest. That is about the most reasonable response I would assume a reasonable person would say. With that being said... What the fuck is wrong with you? Why do always have to tow the line for these fucks? You applauded the trade war. Now we are kissing the Saudi's ass who blew up our buildings and killed our people.

Trump is supposed be "TOUGH"... yet he bows like a little bitch to these fucks.

I think at first glance it might appear like that but try to put all your hate for Trump aside for a sec. if you had to do a serious business transaction that required some hardnose negotiating and the outcome,depending on how it went, could result in a huge financial windfall, would you not want Trump on your team to help you negotiate? Be honest. The man has been doing these deals for FORTY YEARS in some of the most competitive markets in the entire world. And he’s at the top of his game. I trust him to make the best decision for this country. Trump is a total mad man and I assure you is not scared of the Sauds. Did you see what he was saying about the caravan?

astronaut x 10-19-2018 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22352717)
I think at first glance it might appear like that but try to put all your hate for Trump aside for a sec. if you had to do a serious business transaction that required some hardnose negotiating and the outcome,depending on how it went, could result in a huge financial windfall, would you not want Trump on your team to help you negotiate? Be honest. The man has been doing these deals for FORTY YEARS in some of the most competitive markets in the entire world. And he’s at the top of his game. I trust him to make the best decision for this country. Trump is a total mad man and I assure you is not scared of the Sauds. Did you see what he was saying about the caravan?

Put your love for Trump aside for a sec. Grow some balls. Trump is not tough. He is not being tough with the Saudi's. He is not being tough with North Korea. He is not being tough with Russia.

Trump is a money whore. Worse than then you could ever say about Hillary Clinton. Trump does not care about the American people. He needs to be grabbed by the pussy.

babeterminal 10-19-2018 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22352719)
Put your love for Trump aside for a sec. Grow some balls. Trump is not tough. He is not being tough with the Saudi's. He is not being tough with North Korea. He is not being tough with Russia.

Trump is a money whore. Worse than then you could ever say about Hillary Clinton. Trump does not care about the American people. He needs to be grabbed by the pussy.

What are you trying to say ?

astronaut x 10-19-2018 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by babeterminal (Post 22352723)
What are you trying to say ?

I said it.

SecondFloor 10-19-2018 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22352712)
Iran and Saudi Arabia are 2 different animals my friend.

They both impose harsh islamic law. Last year SA beheaded over 100 people. They regularly jail, torture, and murder political opponents. How the hell is Trump - the guy who insisted on a muslim ban - protecting this barbaric regime?

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22352712)
I just think we have too much on our plate at the moment, and considering how our economy is still humming along with trade wars and higher interest rates, why try our luck which could derail our economy?

First, our economy is not dependent on the Saudis. Its quite the opposite - they're dependent on us. Their only valuable export is oil, which they know has a limited life span. Thats why the crown prince is desperate to invest in U.S. businesses and diversify Saudi holdings.

And second - If our great economy is solely dependent on trade with one minor regional power, then it isn't a strong economy.

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22352712)
They killed off some shady Saud...do you think our government never took out one of our own?

Do you think it's OK for our government to "take out one of our own"? If you truly believe it's OK to murder journalists advocating for free speech, then you can't say you also believe in American virtues.

Why not just disagree with Trump on this issue? I don't understand why you would bend over backwards to excuse this.

King Mark 10-20-2018 12:19 AM

Funny how most 9/11 hijackers we're Saudis, yet they ain't on no ban list. #Maga

Busty2 10-20-2018 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22352697)

Trump is compromised. He is not looking out for American interests. He is looking out for his own.

So nothings changed ?

pimpmaster9000 10-20-2018 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22352700)
Look I care for the Saudis as much as you do, but do you really want to get into sanctions and whatever else with them? There would be financial consequences. Many sectors of our economy are tied to the price of oil. Plus they’re heavily invested in quite a bit of tech out here. They do have some influence in Silicon Valley. Things could get ugly and with interest rates rising and our trade war with China it’s probably best to not go down that rabbit hole.

and not only that but you sell them weapons so they can invade other countries...and you refuel their planes when they go on bombing runs with the weapons you sold them...

I think you should bomb iran...they had nothing to do with it, just like iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 or any chemical weapons...

it would be a shame to see your gangster economy suffer...you are the greatest nation in the world and shit...

trump 2020! MAGA!

astronaut x 10-20-2018 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22352735)
Funny how most 9/11 hijackers we're Saudis, yet they ain't on no ban list. #Maga

How about it Trump lovers?

crockett 10-20-2018 12:52 PM

https://cdn-stream.httpid.com/c202/w...rump-Jihad.jpg

Trump is a jihadist trying to take down America from with-in the White House. Even Putin yesterday thanked him for the job he's done at making the US irrelevant.

Acepimp 10-20-2018 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22352735)
Funny how most 9/11 hijackers we're Saudis, yet they ain't on no ban list. #Maga

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Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22352963)
How about it Trump lovers?

The travel ban is based off of a list of known terror hotspots. The list was compiled by OBAMA'S DHS in 2015. Is Saudi Arabia on Obama's list of known terror hotspots?

onwebcam 10-20-2018 02:49 PM

You forgot the part where said journalist was friends with UBL

astronaut x 10-20-2018 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22353031)
You forgot the part where said journalist was friends with UBL

That is a fucking lie. They were fellow Saudi's. The journalist interviewed him, and after 911, he distanced himself and showed deep opposition to OBL.

I wouldn't doubt the journalist had information on the Saudi's and their involvement with 911.

A guy who used to be a friend of mine, kicked someone in the head at a party when he was already beat down from another dude. When I saw that, I no longer care for or talk to the guy. He is a little bitch.

Just like you.

onwebcam 10-20-2018 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22353036)
That is a fucking lie. They were fellow Saudi's. The journalist interviewed him, and after 911, he distanced himself and showed deep opposition to OBL.

I wouldn't doubt the journalist had information on the Saudi's and their involvement with 911.

A guy who used to be a friend of mine, kicked someone in the head at a party when he was already beat down from another dude. When I saw that, I no longer care for or talk to the guy. He is a little bitch.

Just like you.

"Jamal Khashoggi, once a friend of Bin Laden, "
https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/wo...ias-extremism/


"During that time, he met and befriended Osama bin Laden,"
https://www.voanews.com/a/who-is-jam...i/4610403.html

Of course he "distanced himself" in public...

But many stayed friends with him while in hiding.. Including Bush Jr and Hussein Obama

U.S. Hid Osama bin Laden in Iran for Decade After 9/11; Bush & Obama White Houses Worked Saudi & Iranian Deal to Safeguard Terror Leader
https://truepundit.com/u-s-hid-osama...terror-leader/


You fucks are getting played once again... You're FULLY supporting those who backed UBL. And just like Usama he disappears without a trace.. Both of the "friends" are retiring together on a beach somewhere.

OneHungLo 10-20-2018 03:10 PM

Khashoggi was part of the muslim brotherhood trying to overthrow the Sauds like they did in egypt.

onwebcam 10-20-2018 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22353055)
Khashoggi was part of the muslim brotherhood trying to overthrow the Sauds like they did in egypt.

That's why the libs love him. He is their idol. He's a martyr. Only he's not dead.. He's hanging with UBL.

dyna mo 10-20-2018 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22353055)
Khashoggi was part of the muslim brotherhood trying to overthrow the Sauds like they did in egypt.

you understand optics right? The world is watching and regardless of how deep the rabbit hole really goes or not, we're supposed to do something. you prolly know that.

dyna mo 10-20-2018 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22353057)
That's why the libs love him. He is their idol. He's a martyr. Only he's not dead.. He's hanging with UBL.

you're wrong. you don't have enough perspective to speak for real liberals like me. knock it off.

onwebcam 10-20-2018 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22353058)
The world is watching a bad Dexter episode

FIXED :thumbsup

You don't even get to watch. How's that for "optics?" Apparently not even the "investigators" do. They "supposedly" get to hear it on tape.. If there is one how hard do you think it would be to fake a murder on audio recording and even though none has been mentioned give up few dabs of blood?

His body will never be found.. Because he's not dead.

dyna mo 10-20-2018 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22353061)
FIXED :thumbsup

You don't even get to watch. How's that for "optics?" Apparently not even the "investigators" do. They "supposedly" get to hear it on tape.. If there is one how hard do you think it would be to fake a murder on audio recording and even though none has been mentioned give up few dabs of blood?

His body will never be found.. Because he's not dead.

you seem to think I'm the one that makes up the rules. I'm simply posting them.


"you can't find the body because the body is still around"?
that doesn't make any sense. generally when you can't find something it's because it's gone. not the other way around. but hey, i live on planet Earth. We have Oxygen here. brain fuel.

pimpmaster9000 10-20-2018 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22353061)

His body will never be found.. Because he's not dead.

yes yes they went through this elaborate hoax to orchestrate a fake murder and raise an international shit storm but they did not really kill him because they grew a conscience and the saudi king got a soft heart for somebody who criticized him :thumbsup

onwebcam 10-20-2018 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22353067)
yes yes they went through this elaborate hoax to orchestrate a fake murder and raise an international shit storm but they did not really kill him because they grew a conscience and the saudi king got a soft heart for somebody who criticized him :thumbsup

It is/was a scheme to take down MBS and install a Muslim Brotherhood friendly Crown Prince..

He tried to take them out when he detained all of the MB bigwigs.. Now they are trying to take him out with a fake murder. Why is this so hard to understand? The person who is behind the original story is his other Muslim Brotherhood friend and personal advisor to Erdogan who is "becoming the most prolific prosecutor of journalists" ever...

SecondFloor 10-20-2018 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22353069)
It is/was a scheme to take down MBS and install a Muslim Brotherhood friendly Crown Prince..

He tried to take them out when he detained all of the MB bigwigs.. Now they are trying to take him out with a fake murder. Why is this so hard to understand? The person who is behind the original story is his other Muslim Brotherhood friend and personal advisor to Erdogan who is "becoming the most prolific prosecutor of journalists" ever...

I don't know how you function with all these conspiracies in your head. Literally none of this is supported by news sources or the governments involved. If you're just going to make up insane shit, then no one will be able to convince you otherwise. What you're asserting has no factual basis at all.

onwebcam 10-20-2018 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SecondFloor (Post 22353078)
I don't know how you function with all these conspiracies in your head. Literally none of this is supported by news sources or the governments involved. If you're just going to make up insane shit, then no one will be able to convince you otherwise. What you're asserting has no factual basis at all.

Every bit of that is publicly admitted shit except exactly what transpired.. All we have is the claim that he was murdered.... On the claim side you have Muslim Brotherhood claiming another brother was killed. On the other side you have who they are blaming, MBS, who they want to get rid of. Supposedly MBS made arrests but no one has said "we killed him"

onwebcam 10-20-2018 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22353066)
you seem to think I'm the one that makes up the rules. I'm simply posting them.


"you can't find the body because the body is still around"?
that doesn't make any sense. generally when you can't find something it's because it's gone. not the other way around. but hey, i live on planet Earth. We have Oxygen here. brain fuel.

It's gone because he's sucking down drinks with UBS somewhere.

SecondFloor 10-20-2018 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22353081)
Every bit of that is publicly admitted shit except exactly what transpired.. All we have is the claim that he was murdered.... On the claim side you have Muslim Brotherhood claiming another brother was killed. On the other side you have who they are blaming, MBS, who they want to get rid of. Supposedly MBS made arrests but no one has said "we killed him"

Its hard to even know where to start with this. First, one side is not "The Muslim Brotherhood" - its the Turkish government, and the international community together.

You're presenting this as if its two equal claims, but it isn't. Theres documented evidence that close associates of MBS boarded two planes, were in and out the same day, and took an autopsy specialist with them. Turkish authorities weren't granted access for two weeks after the "disappearance". Whats more, SA keeps changing their story. They first said Khashoggi walked out, then that he was strangled after a fistfight.

And you're asserting that he's alive with... Bin Laden? Am I understanding that right? Which there is certainly no evidence of.

I know I probably shouldn't even engage with this, but Im legitimately concerned that someone could read the news, look at the facts we know, and come to such a ridiculous conclusion.

pimpmaster9000 10-20-2018 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22353069)
It is/was a scheme to take down MBS and install a Muslim Brotherhood friendly Crown Prince..

He tried to take them out when he detained all of the MB bigwigs.. Now they are trying to take him out with a fake murder. Why is this so hard to understand? The person who is behind the original story is his other Muslim Brotherhood friend and personal advisor to Erdogan who is "becoming the most prolific prosecutor of journalists" ever...

oh so the muslim brotherhood is now above actually killing people but goes to this massive elaborate hoax of orchestrating his murder instead of just killing him...good job in spotting this :thumbsup

dyna mo 10-20-2018 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22353086)
It's gone because he's sucking down drinks with UBS somewhere.

You don't realize that now you're the ME expert and coincidentally, it all fits into your black hole puzzle.

Peter Strzok!

onwebcam 10-20-2018 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SecondFloor (Post 22353091)
Its hard to even know where to start with this. First, one side is not "The Muslim Brotherhood" - its the Turkish government, and the international community together.

The source of the actual story is his Muslim Brotherhood friend who just so happens to be a prosecutor (becoming the most prolific prosecutors of journalists ever) in Turkey and personal advisor to Erdogan... It's not hard for the Turkish government to "believe" their own story... "The "international community" is believing the story they are telling... Where's a witness? Where's a body? Why would they kill him in their consulate when he was walking around freely? By sending a forensic expert then it was preplanned.. Again, why in their own consulate? Because it's a frame-up.. It WAS preplanned... To take down MBS. Khashoggi was a participant in the frame up to take down someone he hated.


What you don't understand is that it appears that you will now believe ANYTHING you are told with ZERO evidence as long as your beloved media keeps repeating it over and over again..

dyna mo 10-20-2018 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22353098)
The source of the actual story is his Muslim Brotherhood friend who just so happens to be a prosecutor (becoming the most prolific prosecutors of journalists ever) in Turkey and personal advisor to Erdogan... It's not hard for the Turkish government to "believe" their own story... "The "international community" is believing the story they are telling... Where's a witness? Where's a body? Why would they kill him in their consulate when he was walking around freely?


What you don't understand is that it appears that you will now believe ANYTHING you are told with ZERO evidence as long as your beloved media keeps repeating it over and over again..

What you don't understand is that you believe ANYTHING you are told with ZERO evidence

SecondFloor 10-20-2018 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22353098)
The source of the actual story is his Muslim Brotherhood friend who just so happens to be a prosecutor (becoming the most prolific prosecutors of journalists ever) in Turkey and personal advisor to Erdogan...

The source of the story? This guy disappeared after entering the Saudi consulate while he was an active dissident. Thats the source. It doesn't take a Muslim Brotherhood conspirator to deduce that he's most likely dead. Still, the SA government denied he had been killed for two weeks.

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22353098)
What you don't understand is that it appears that you will now believe ANYTHING you are told with ZERO evidence as long as your beloved media keeps repeating it over and over again..

There's actually lots of evidence - in my last post I linked to a NYT investigation that proves MBS's bodyguards were at the scene of the crime. And it's not exactly out of character considering SA's long history of detaining and torturing journalists who speak out against the government.

And no - I don't believe anything from any media source with zero evidence. If that were the case I'd buy the obviously fake story spouted by SA. What I definitely don't do is jump to crazy conclusions, like Khashoggi being alive due to some elaborate conspiracy. Along with USB somehow?

beerptrol 10-20-2018 05:03 PM

They spend hundreds of millions buying his properties and buy out his hotel floors.

So they good people. The day they stop doing this is the day they go on the banned country list!

onwebcam 10-20-2018 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SecondFloor (Post 22353119)
The source of the story? This guy disappeared after entering the Saudi consulate while he was an active dissident. Thats the source.

Nope, he told his "girlfriend" if he doesn't return to contact his prosecutor friend.. His Muslim Brotherhood friend. The personal advisor to Erdogan... This person is THE source to all of the original reports..

onwebcam 10-20-2018 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SecondFloor (Post 22353119)
There's actually lots of evidence - in my last post I linked to a NYT investigation that proves MBS's bodyguards were at the scene of the crime.

Lot's of evidence Saudi's visited the Saudi consulate.. WOW Can you bring that to court?

BTW MBS is saying it happened now because what else can he do? You believe it despite the lack of any evidence....

SecondFloor 10-20-2018 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22353126)
Lot's of evidence Saudi's visited the Saudi consulate.. WOW Can you bring that to court?

BTW MBS is saying it happened now because what else can he do? You believe it despite the lack of any evidence....

Its amazing to me that you need such a huge amount of evidence to verify a very likely story universally agreed upon by experts, yet so little to come to your own elaborate conspiracy plot supported by absolutely no one. You say Turkey is lying about the killing, that SA was telling the truth at first, but now they've been forced to lie. This is crazy mental gymnastics with zero evidence.

onwebcam 10-20-2018 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SecondFloor (Post 22353167)
Its amazing to me that you need such a huge amount of evidence to verify a very likely story universally agreed upon by experts, yet so little to come to your own elaborate conspiracy plot supported by absolutely no one. You say Turkey is lying about the killing, that SA was telling the truth at first, but now they've been forced to lie. This is crazy mental gymnastics with zero evidence.

Universally agreed upon by experts? What are they experts at? Repeating what they are told?

astronaut x 10-21-2018 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22353179)
Universally agreed upon by experts? What are they experts at? Repeating what they are told?

The international consensus is, he was murdered and chopped up.

You don't want to believe it because it makes your shit STINK.

huey 10-21-2018 01:57 AM

Everything you need to know about Saudi Arabia in the last 30 years.

https://www.pbs.org/video/bitter-riv...arabia-pqsnhk/

Paul Markham 10-21-2018 03:33 AM

Name the Presidents who were never in bed with terrorists. It's a short list.


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