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crockett 11-03-2018 05:44 AM

This is why words matter.. Nigeria used Trump's words as excuse to kill protestors
 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nigeria...international/

The Nigerian Army appeared to adopt words used by President Trump this week to justify their own use of deadly force in a crackdown against Muslim protesters.

In a tweet, which has since been deleted, the Nigerian Army shared a video of Mr. Trump's ominous warning to migrants traveling in a U.S.–bound caravan that if they throw rocks, U.S. troops will respond with lethal force. They captioned it: "Please Watch and Make your Deductions."

Nigeria's military and police forces are accused of killing dozens of Muslim protesters and arresting hundreds of others, the BBC reports. Facing global pressure over the fatal shootings, the Nigerian Army — the largest component of the Nigerian Armed Forces — tweeted the Trump video on Friday, but later deleted the post.

Mr. Trump made the remarks at the White House Thursday, saying of the migrants, "They want to throw rocks at our military — our military fights back. We're going to consider it, and I told them, consider it a rifle. When they throw rocks like they did at the Mexico military and police I say consider it a rifle."

The Nigerian director of defense, Brigade General John Agim, told the BBC the tweet was in reaction to Amnesty International's damning investigation, released on Oct. 31, that found "excessive force" by soldiers and police led to the killing of at least 45 supporters of the Islamic Movement in Nigeria (IMN) over two days.

Samantha Power, former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, called it "sickening."

The Nigerian military's official Twitter account refuted the report, claiming it acted in "self-defense" and was only responsible for six deaths and seven injuries.

The United States Embassy in Nigeria expressed concern over deaths resulting from the clashes between the Nigerian security forces and IMN, issuing a statement urging Nigeria's government authorities to "conduct a thorough investigation of the events and to take appropriate action to hold accountable those responsible for violations of Nigerian law."

Members of IMN have been demanding the release of their leader, Ibraheem Zakzaky, who has been in custody for 34 months, the BBC reports. Nigerian police arrested 400 members of the Shia Muslim sect after days of deadly protests in the capital of Abuja that began on Saturday.

In Thursday's speech, Mr. Trump said any rocks thrown at the military would be treated like "a firearm."

"Anybody throwing stones, rocks, like they did to Mexico and the Mexican military, Mexican police, where they badly hurt police and soldiers of Mexico — we will consider that a firearm," he said.

When a reporter asked him about this, the president said the U.S. military should "consider it a rifle."

Asked about the president's remarks, a Pentagon spokesperson said, "We will not discuss hypothetical situations or specific measures within our rules on the use of force, but our forces Are trained professionals who always have the inherent right of defense."

RedFred 11-03-2018 05:52 AM

Trump cultists love when people get killed. This just makes them love their cult leader more.

OldJeff 11-03-2018 05:52 AM

Perhaps the ILLEGALS heading to the US should take note.

RedFred 11-03-2018 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldJeff (Post 22360547)
Perhaps the ILLEGALS heading to the US should take note.

Made my point.

pimpmaster9000 11-03-2018 05:55 AM

Illegal human beings approaching! Open fire!

OldJeff 11-03-2018 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22360548)
Made my point.

Not even close, tRump is a complete asshat and by far the worst man to ever hold the office, however, it does not change the fact that the "hoard" is looking to enter the country without being properly vetted, or going through the LEGAL process.

Liking the Orange Buffoon and not liking Illegal immigration are totally unconnected.

RedFred 11-03-2018 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldJeff (Post 22360553)
Not even close, tRump is a complete asshat and by far the worst man to ever hold the office, however, it does not change the fact that the "hoard" is looking to enter the country without being properly vetted, or going through the LEGAL process.

Liking the Orange Buffoon and not liking Illegal immigration are totally unconnected.


But they should be shot. Got it.

crockett 11-03-2018 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldJeff (Post 22360547)
Perhaps the ILLEGALS heading to the US should take note.

Perhaps your psychologist should take note...

celandina 11-03-2018 09:55 AM

The OP is wrong !!! Fake news !

This relates to Nigerian Shia cleric Ibrahim Zakzaky who declared jihad on Nigerian government and wanted to install "Iranian style" islamic state. Naturally he got put in jail for promoting insurection (as in most civilized lands). His followers did not give up and are causing trouble in Nigeria ...it is a treason from within...

....the military response was justified this all started a long time before Trump..

Here are some of the demonstrators..

SOLDIERS OF PEACE:

http://blog.crisisgroup.org/assets/f...MN-16dec15.jpg

PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATORS:

https://www.businessdayonline.com/wp...te-Protest.jpg

ANOTHER PROMOTER OF PEACE IN NIGERIA

http://joynews.co.za/wp-content/uplo...s-1068x712.jpg


Now, I am NOT a supporter of Trump, I think he is a dangerous psycho but you cannot blame him for everything and especially NOT for Nigerian problems.

TheSquealer 11-03-2018 09:58 AM

https://i.imgur.com/mrKdi8i.gif

crockett 11-03-2018 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22360666)
The OP is wrong !!! Fake news !

This relates to Nigerian Shia cleric Ibrahim Zakzaky who declared jihad on Nigerian government and wanted to install "Iranian style" islamic state. Naturally he got put in jail for promoting insurection (as in most civilized lands). His followers did not give up and are causing trouble in Nigeria ...it is a treason from within...

....the military response was justified and it occurred a long time before Trump..

Here are some of the demonstrators..

SOLDIERS OF PEACE:

http://blog.crisisgroup.org/assets/f...MN-16dec15.jpg

PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATORS:

https://www.businessdayonline.com/wp...te-Protest.jpg

ANOTHER PROMOTER OF PEACE IN NIGERIA

http://joynews.co.za/wp-content/uplo...s-1068x712.jpg


Now, I am NOT a supporter of Trump, I think he is a dangerous psycho but you cannot blame him for everything and especially NOT for Nigerian problems.

You are missing the point.. Trump has now given every dictatorship a free excuse when they kill unarmed citizens..

Dont lie and make excuses for Trump's rhetoric.. All any dictatorship has to do is now say the protesters threw rocks so our police defended themselves

This is why having a moron in charge of the most powerful country in the world is not good, because morons dont think..

crockett 11-03-2018 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22360667)


Rochard 11-03-2018 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldJeff (Post 22360553)
Not even close, tRump is a complete asshat and by far the worst man to ever hold the office, however, it does not change the fact that the "hoard" is looking to enter the country without being properly vetted, or going through the LEGAL process.

Liking the Orange Buffoon and not liking Illegal immigration are totally unconnected.

This is not true at all. This so called "hoard" isn't looking to storm the gates and come to the US illegally. Instead, they are going to come to a port of entry, stand in line, and when their turn comes they will request asylum.

I personally do not believe they have the right to asylum. Our system of political asylum is not to take in tens of thousands of people who are afraid of local crime, or because their government is unable to control their economy. Asylum is when someone is living in fear because they believe their government might unjustly target them for arrest or worse.

King Mark 11-03-2018 10:14 AM

You throw a rock at me, I'm shooting too. Legally.

celandina 11-03-2018 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22360670)
You are missing the point.. Trump has now given every dictatorship a free excuse when they kill unarmed citizens..

Dont lie and make excuses for Trump's rhetoric.. All any dictatorship has to do is now say the protesters threw rocks so our police defended themselves

This is why having a moron in charge of the most powerful country in the world is not good, because morons dont think..

NO I am not missing a point...any insurection must be put down by lethal force...I do not care if it is in Bosnia,Kosovo, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Nigeria, Mali or America...it makes NO difference...:2 cents:

Acepimp 11-03-2018 11:07 AM

Hey Crockett:

PICTURED: Border Patrol agent, 36, killed by 'rock throwers' in ambush attack near US-Mexico border in Texas that also injured his partner

Get some facts, clown. WTF does Nigeria have to do with ANYTHING?

baddog 11-03-2018 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22360676)
This is not true at all. This so called "hoard" isn't looking to storm the gates and come to the US illegally. Instead, they are going to come to a port of entry, stand in line, and when their turn comes they will request asylum.

Holy fucking crap; you act like you believe that.

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxne....jpg?ve=1&tl=1

baddog 11-03-2018 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22360712)

You are pretty stupid at times.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/border-...ails-accident/


Quote:

Martinez was responding to a tripped sensor along a known drug smuggling route. He radioed for backup. A law enforcement source tells CBS News Martinez then parked on the eastbound side of Interstate 10. He turned off his headlights and kept his emergency lights off so potential smugglers wouldn't see him coming.

It was a moonless night. There are no street lights there, so really the only light you have would be a flashlight, or the headlights of a passing vehicle. The source says Martinez was not using night vision equipment. He then ran across the eastbound lane, the grass divider, then the westbound lanes and ran right off the edge of a culvert – about a nine or 10 foot drop – that had no guardrail or barrier to stop him.

OneHungLo 11-03-2018 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22360715)
Holy fucking crap; you act like you believe that.

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxne....jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Is rochard like some sort of god-tier level troll that I’m not aware of? Nobody can be this stupid, right? Is the joke on me?

Acepimp 11-03-2018 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22360717)

Ok so I missed the follow-up story that came out 3 months later. Thanks for the info.

OneHungLo 11-03-2018 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22360554)
But they should be shot. Got it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22360667)

Redfred you're god damn idiot.

ghjghj 11-03-2018 01:06 PM

https://i.imgur.com/udJRQVW.png

TheSquealer 11-03-2018 02:53 PM

I can't believe Trump did something to disturb the well known, peaceful and tranquil utopia of Nigeria and pushed them to violence.... which is just so unusual for them.

Major (Tom) 11-03-2018 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22360545)
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nigeria...international/

The Nigerian Army appeared to adopt words used by President Trump this week to justify their own use of deadly force in a crackdown against Muslim protesters.

In a tweet, which has since been deleted, the Nigerian Army shared a video of Mr. Trump's ominous warning to migrants traveling in a U.S.–bound caravan that if they throw rocks, U.S. troops will respond with lethal force. They captioned it: "Please Watch and Make your Deductions."

Nigeria's military and police forces are accused of killing dozens of Muslim protesters and arresting hundreds of others, the BBC reports. Facing global pressure over the fatal shootings, the Nigerian Army — the largest component of the Nigerian Armed Forces — tweeted the Trump video on Friday, but later deleted the post.

Mr. Trump made the remarks at the White House Thursday, saying of the migrants, "They want to throw rocks at our military — our military fights back. We're going to consider it, and I told them, consider it a rifle. When they throw rocks like they did at the Mexico military and police I say consider it a rifle."

The Nigerian director of defense, Brigade General John Agim, told the BBC the tweet was in reaction to Amnesty International's damning investigation, released on Oct. 31, that found "excessive force" by soldiers and police led to the killing of at least 45 supporters of the Islamic Movement in Nigeria (IMN) over two days.

Samantha Power, former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, called it "sickening."

The Nigerian military's official Twitter account refuted the report, claiming it acted in "self-defense" and was only responsible for six deaths and seven injuries.

The United States Embassy in Nigeria expressed concern over deaths resulting from the clashes between the Nigerian security forces and IMN, issuing a statement urging Nigeria's government authorities to "conduct a thorough investigation of the events and to take appropriate action to hold accountable those responsible for violations of Nigerian law."

Members of IMN have been demanding the release of their leader, Ibraheem Zakzaky, who has been in custody for 34 months, the BBC reports. Nigerian police arrested 400 members of the Shia Muslim sect after days of deadly protests in the capital of Abuja that began on Saturday.

In Thursday's speech, Mr. Trump said any rocks thrown at the military would be treated like "a firearm."

"Anybody throwing stones, rocks, like they did to Mexico and the Mexican military, Mexican police, where they badly hurt police and soldiers of Mexico — we will consider that a firearm," he said.

When a reporter asked him about this, the president said the U.S. military should "consider it a rifle."

Asked about the president's remarks, a Pentagon spokesperson said, "We will not discuss hypothetical situations or specific measures within our rules on the use of force, but our forces Are trained professionals who always have the inherent right of defense."

Nigeria, please

onwebcam 11-03-2018 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22360676)
This is not true at all. This so called "hoard" isn't looking to storm the gates and come to the US illegally. Instead, they are going to come to a port of entry, stand in line, and when their turn comes they will request asylum.

I personally do not believe they have the right to asylum. Our system of political asylum is not to take in tens of thousands of people who are afraid of local crime, or because their government is unable to control their economy. Asylum is when someone is living in fear because they believe their government might unjustly target them for arrest or worse.

You must have missed the news of armed migrants opening fire on Mexican military.
https://katrinapierson.com/armed-mig...-mexican-cops/


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