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beavr 11-12-2018 03:10 PM

Owed by NaughtyAmerica? Claim your money with a lawyer in a class suit
 
We are owed over 100k in revshare affiliate fees by NA.

The debt started to grow back in 2015. We were promised to get paid all of the time until they banned our affiliate acc. Now they refuse to pay. We are looking for more people whom NaughtyAmerica/NaughtyRevenue might owe some money to proceed with a legal action to make them pay. There were 3 people owed more or around 100k that got paid once they claimed their money earlier in 2018.

There’s a dedicated lawyer ready to proceed with collective claim to get all of us paid. There will be some reasonable fee at the end from the actual payout.

NaughtyAmerica won’t be able to simply dismiss such collective suit since there will be enough money involved to sue them and it also raises fraud allegations above them.

Please get in touch if they banned your account once you claimed your money or any other reason.

Mail [email protected]

Busty2 11-12-2018 03:13 PM

I wish you good luck with this :thumbsup:thumbsup

CaptainHowdy 11-12-2018 03:40 PM

Fight the good fight :thumbsup . . .

HowlingWulf 11-12-2018 04:09 PM

Damn! Glad I did not get involved with them. Good luck.

King Mark 11-12-2018 04:13 PM

My very first username on here was banned because of them. Just cause I said naughty Ally is ugly. 2006 shit, true story.

dillfly2000 11-12-2018 04:15 PM

Signed up with them, but never promoted.

shake 11-12-2018 04:31 PM

Good luck to you.

RycEric 11-12-2018 05:09 PM

Bump for you

Axeman 11-12-2018 08:10 PM

Good luck with your quest to get paid. I hope everyone that is owed, gets squared away.

TheSquealer 11-12-2018 08:15 PM

Rule number 1 of lawsuits.

Lawyers win... every single time. Plaintiffs? Not so much.

astronaut x 11-12-2018 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22366330)
My very first username on here was banned because of them. Just cause I said naughty Ally is ugly. 2006 shit, true story.

You sure you are talking about the same people?

Kelli58 11-12-2018 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22366330)
My very first username on here was banned because of them. Just cause I said naughty Ally is ugly. 2006 shit, true story.

Not sure if it's still the rule but back before AVN bought GFY, you used to get banned for talking shit of any kind about a sponsor to paid GFY to advertise.

ANAL PASTE 11-12-2018 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22366330)
My very first username on here was banned because of them. Just cause I said naughty Ally is ugly. 2006 shit, true story.

Thats Naughty Bank.
Blonde butterface girl with big fake tits that go east and west.

lovebitch 11-12-2018 08:52 PM

Make them pay, Fucking scammers.

itx 11-12-2018 11:11 PM

Good luck!!

Speigelau 11-13-2018 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22366330)
My very first username on here was banned because of them. Just cause I said naughty Ally is ugly. 2006 shit, true story.

No correlation between Naughty Allie and Naughty America. Allie and her hubby were tight with gfy mods and I think she may have ran for miss gfy, so I could see how you probably got banned for calling her that, even though that's stupid.

Denny 11-13-2018 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dillfly2000 (Post 22366333)
Signed up with them, but never promoted.

Same here.

Good luck guys.

JesseQuinn 11-13-2018 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22366429)
Rule number 1 of lawsuits.

Lawyers win... every single time. Plaintiffs? Not so much.

with all due respect that has not been my experience

twice in 41 years I have needed a lawyer to get back money owed. I find that excessive as I'm not an American who sues at the drop of a hat but both instances were warranted

first time, the first indy site I ever worked (and built my biz around, they even made my first personal site as I was the top earner in their network) just decided to stop and left me and everyone else owed in the wind. I was so pissed and everyone told me to drop it. But I investigated and with the help of a US lawyer who was from Jamaica and knew my ex's family I got back every penny owed including all the court costs, skip trace fees, etc etc etc

I had no idea going in I would get all those extra costs reimbursed, just found out in my research they had done this before, got away with it as no one was owed enough to fight back and I was determined to not let history repeat itself

second time, a broke ass loser expat in Turks and Caicos I was renting a home from in a resort tried to bill me for thousands of dollars of 'damage' including rust in the oven (I do not cook, I stored my books in there and never used the oven once for its intended purpose) and smoke burns on fabric I had never seen. and I don't smoke indoors in a home with a no smoking policy. ever.

he was going through a divorce, had no job/income aside from the rent I paid him and he already didn't like me as I brought 'undesirable' locals over often. aka my friends. not wanted in that resort, or his home. ya know my undesirable friends used coasters every time they had even a glass of water? I par with respectful peeps.

when I moved out me and my ex and our best friend who kinda lived with us spent 3 days cleaning the place. my 'undesirable' boy was down on the floor cleaning every crevice of each kitchen door as TCI is very dusty and that dust accumulates where it can over the course of a year. we left the place in absolutely move in condition. actually cleaner than when I moved in.

I not just got back my 2.5k deposit but also the cost of the lawyer writing the letter to my landlord. Once he got the letter from the TCI lawyer he was at her office with a payment covering everything in less than four hours. he knew he was busted for trying to steal from me just because he thought he could

In both cases the lawyers spent extra time with me off the clock convincing me to also ask for my costs in trying to get my own money back. I'm really conservative/risk adverse and just wanted what I was owed, not the costs of pursuing getting those funds.

I won both times. every penny. including their fees and all costs

Both situations were unpleasant and stressful and not something I ever want to repeat. Still, I got what I was owed both times and that was due to the lawyers I hired

Yes legal proceedings are not fun, but aside from recouping funds owed people who try to get away with theft need to be held accountable so they don't keep doing it.

good luck to everyone seeking what they are ethically owed.

nikki99 11-13-2018 07:28 AM

oh no......

rowan 11-13-2018 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22366429)
Rule number 1 of lawsuits.

Lawyers win... every single time. Plaintiffs? Not so much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JesseQuinn (Post 22366625)
with all due respect that has not been my experience

twice in 41 years I have needed a lawyer to get back money owed. I find that excessive as I'm not an American who sues at the drop of a hat but both instances were warranted

He's probably referring more specifically to class action lawsuits, where it can take years to reach a settlement. The funds may not necessarily cover 100% of the amount due to the plaintiffs, and then a large slice of those funds are eaten up by lawyers fees. If the company is on the brink of collapse you could be lucky to see cents in the dollar. :2 cents:

King Mark 11-13-2018 04:20 PM

Thanks for clarification. I stand corrected.

$5 submissions 11-13-2018 05:00 PM

Is the lawyer working on retainer or contingency?

Total payout of $100,000 for a suit seems a bit small...

JesseQuinn 11-14-2018 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 22366779)
He's probably referring more specifically to class action lawsuits, where it can take years to reach a settlement. The funds may not necessarily cover 100% of the amount due to the plaintiffs, and then a large slice of those funds are eaten up by lawyers fees. If the company is on the brink of collapse you could be lucky to see cents in the dollar. :2 cents:

I gathered that but you are correct that there is a difference between individual and class action proceedings. never been a party to a class action, hope to never be. honestly court proceedings are awful and wouldn't wish that on anyone.

class actions do have a place though, even if the lawyers take a cut. it's a mechanism through which those who may not be able to afford legal costs out of pocket up front can still seek funds owed and hold people accountable for what they do. or don't do. like pay people what they are owed.

that indy site that tried to rip me off owed dozens of people, just none except me were owed enough to justify the cost of pursuing legal recompense.

back to the central point, good luck to everyone owed and I hope this company reaches an understanding one way or another that paying debts is not optional. it's what the rest of us do every day and we manage it so wtf is wrong with those who can't

beavr 11-14-2018 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 22366868)
Is the lawyer working on retainer or contingency?

Total payout of $100,000 for a suit seems a bit small...

At the stage of preparing demand letter to pay there won't be any costs. We will see how things go once they refuse to pay.

That way OP is wrong. Currently we are talking about demand letter atm.

marcop 11-25-2018 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beavr (Post 22366284)
We are owed over 100k in revshare affiliate fees by NA.

The debt started to grow back in 2015. We were promised to get paid all of the time until they banned our affiliate acc. Now they refuse to pay. We are looking for more people whom NaughtyAmerica/NaughtyRevenue might owe some money to proceed with a legal action to make them pay. There were 3 people owed more or around 100k that got paid once they claimed their money earlier in 2018.

There’s a dedicated lawyer ready to proceed with collective claim to get all of us paid. There will be some reasonable fee at the end from the actual payout.

NaughtyAmerica won’t be able to simply dismiss such collective suit since there will be enough money involved to sue them and it also raises fraud allegations above them.

Please get in touch if they banned your account once you claimed your money or any other reason.

Mail [email protected]

I've seen this behavior many times before in this biz; at some point you're owed so much money it makes sense to the debtor to fuck you over.

Paul Markham 11-25-2018 02:38 PM

Before you start the process make sure they have enough money to pay their lawyers then pay for yours if they lose, then to pay out. This whole thing could leave you making lawyers rich and you getting nothing or even paying for the lawyers to get little or nothing.

Will the lawyers take it on for a share of the winnings?

ladida 11-25-2018 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 22366779)
He's probably referring more specifically to class action lawsuits, where it can take years to reach a settlement. The funds may not necessarily cover 100% of the amount due to the plaintiffs, and then a large slice of those funds are eaten up by lawyers fees. If the company is on the brink of collapse you could be lucky to see cents in the dollar. :2 cents:

I dunno, i got everything from epassporte based on the class action from zahawi and i only needed to pay 20% of what i got. I consider that a huge win considering how long it took and that i'd get nothing if it wasn't for the class action.

beavr 11-29-2018 01:53 PM

How many people got paid on condition that their NA account gets closed? Did you have any ongoing rebills?

beavr 01-24-2019 07:51 AM

Guys are putting together invoices from these who owed to claim payments. You might actually get your money back. This is final call

Diomed 01-24-2019 10:28 AM

Bump for you..

Can't believe any webmaster here is trying to dismiss the practical outcome of lawsuits.

Sue them into bankruptcy please :2 cents:

CumBro 12-12-2020 12:44 AM

How did this end?

InfoGuy 12-12-2020 03:12 AM

Naughty America / Naughty Revenue / La Touraine has paid at least some outstanding debts.

Naughty Revenue does not pay.

beavr 12-12-2020 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CumBro (Post 22788192)
How did this end?

Everyone on the list got paid without getting into any legal action. Because they don't have much money some arranged to get direct payments from their biller. If you can manage to get a lawyer sending a letter in your name you can expect to get paid right away with no forms or other bullshit.

They are still actively producing and posting on reddit https://www.reddit.com/user/NaughtyAmerica-VR

Andreas is pretty active as well https://www.reddit.com/user/NaughtyAmerica1776

Grapesoda 12-12-2020 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcop (Post 22371995)
I've seen this behavior many times before in this biz; at some point you're owed so much money it makes sense to the debtor to fuck you over.

yup :2 cents:

sandman! 12-13-2020 08:18 AM

Congrats on getting paid.

ladida 12-14-2020 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beavr (Post 22788394)
If you can manage to get a lawyer sending a letter in your name you can expect to get paid right away with no forms or other bullshit.[/url]

Same thing as always. Crying on boards = 0. Lawyering up = top.
Good work on your part for fighting to get paid.

geirlur 12-14-2020 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beavr (Post 22788394)
Everyone on the list got paid without getting into any legal action. Because they don't have much money some arranged to get direct payments from their biller.

Guess we can thank you for their extremely low PPS and revshare :winkwink:

No worries though, I've pulled all their links :thumbsup

nikki99 12-14-2020 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 22366303)
Fight the good fight :thumbsup . . .

with Jesus if you fight the good fight, hell is victory :thumbsup

beavr 12-14-2020 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geirlur (Post 22789027)
Guess we can thank you for their extremely low PPS and revshare :winkwink:

🤭

8char

beavr 12-15-2020 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladida (Post 22789011)
Same thing as always. Crying on boards = 0. Lawyering up = top.
Good work on your part for fighting to get paid.

Andreas is shitting his pants every time he gets a word from a lawyer. He's sitting on a pile of shit he's got himself in over the years that is going to blow up with the right strike.

His worst nightmare is to get into discovery stage as a part of potential litigation.

InfoGuy 12-15-2020 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beavr (Post 22789966)
Andreas is shitting his pants every time he gets a word from a lawyer. He's sitting on a pile of shit he's got himself in over the years that is going to blow up with the right strike.

His worst nightmare is to get into discovery stage as a part of ongoing litigation.

Good, he should have thought about the consequences before using unpaid affiliate balances as his piggy bank.

OneHungLo 12-15-2020 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beavr (Post 22789966)
His worst nightmare is to get into discovery stage as a part of potential litigation.

That can get very expensive.


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