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Grapesoda 11-23-2018 06:52 AM

trump and the fires
 
my daughters step daddy is a hunter. we was hanging out he told me about the forest management in Utah, the dead growth in the forest is marked and companies PAY to come cut the wood out, and sell it. in Cally they offer that as well for forest management, but in Cally it is so over regulated and complex nobody wants to do it. the companies that do this type of stuff all walked away from all the cally bullshit. it isn't worth the trouble... like the fake drought started by the dems here in cally.... you can't even get your bumper chromed in cally... trump is right ther asshols fucked everything up out here :2 cents:

great opportunity for a fact checker here to check into this BTW facts don't refer to another guy saying what you want to hear on facebook, okay?

PR_Glen 11-23-2018 12:17 PM

so there are no droughts going on in california?

how much "forest management" was going on 200 years ago?

beerptrol 11-23-2018 12:28 PM

For a guy who loves to blast California, you'd think you'd take the proper precautions to insure and protect yourself from that liberal state government and it's bad policies!

I know! It's easier to slam them and have someone start a gofundme to beg for money instead of buying insurance in a state prone to wild fires

Bladewire 11-23-2018 12:28 PM

The California Forest management task force government website debunks everything you just said except for the chrome bumper myth that you propagated. You can get your bumper chromed in California.

The California drought is real

hottoddy 11-23-2018 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22371376)
so there are no droughts going on in california?

how much "forest management" was going on 200 years ago?

There have been major droughts throughout the history of California, and forest management was fires burning at regular intervals with no houses in the way.

https://s3media.247sports.com/Upload...4/8834847.jpeg

PR_Glen 11-23-2018 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hottoddy (Post 22371381)
There have been major droughts throughout the history of California, and forest management was fires burning at regular intervals with no houses in the way.

https://s3media.247sportsblurb/8834847.jpeg

are any of the past droughts comparable to these current ones? Why weren't there catastrophic fires of this size before this 'management' took place?

thanks for your meme picture. I was trying to keep this discussion amongst us though, with our own words and thoughts being used, not ones that have been fed to us from unknown sources.

PR_Glen 11-23-2018 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22371377)
For a guy who loves to blast California, you'd think you'd take the proper precautions to insure and protect yourself from that liberal state government and it's bad policies!

I know! It's easier to slam them and have someone start a gofundme to beg for money instead of buying insurance in a state prone to wild fires

This is pretty fucked up to go after him personally because you don't like his opinions. He's been through enough I think that he doesn't need that kind of bullshit...

beerptrol 11-23-2018 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22371391)
This is pretty fucked up to go after him personally because you don't like his opinions. He's been through enough I think that he doesn't need that kind of bullshit...

If you're going to sit here and talk about how the state mismanages shit, then your mismanagement is fair game. And if your going to spew pro trump and alt right bullshit then you deserve what you get!

like the fake drought started by the dems here in cally....
trump is right ther asshols fucked everything up out here

Rochard 11-23-2018 01:18 PM

I'm sorry but.... It's painfully obvious what the problem is here in California. When I first moved here the weather was great, it rained often enough, and everything was green. Now it's just the opposite. We now top out at over 100 degrees on a regular basis in the summer, it never rains, and everything is brown - and dead. Everything is dry. Everything is bone dry up here. It's horrible.

This is exactly what fake news is - someone saying things that aren't true.

This problem is going to get much worse, and it's going to spread to other states.

Global warming is real, be it man made or not. We are seeing this with hurricanes and fires. You can deny it all you want, but it's really happening.

Rochard 11-23-2018 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hottoddy (Post 22371381)
There have been major droughts throughout the history of California, and forest management was fires burning at regular intervals with no houses in the way.

https://s3media.247sports.com/Upload...4/8834847.jpeg

There is a massive difference between Finland and California. You run that "rake" in California and you most likely set a fire....

sarettah 11-23-2018 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22371262)
like the fake drought started by the dems here in cally.... you can't even get your bumper chromed in cally... trump is right ther asshols fucked everything up out here :2 cents:

great opportunity for a fact checker here to check into this BTW facts don't refer to another guy saying what you want to hear on facebook, okay?


So, you draw your conclusions as if they are fact and then ask for the facts?

So, a fact checker cannot relyy on a facebook guy but you can rely on your daughter's step dad for your "facts" because he is a hunter so he must know all about this stuff, right?

That is kind of completely ass backward, ya know?

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TheSquealer 11-23-2018 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22371376)
so there are no droughts going on in california?

how much "forest management" was going on 200 years ago?

that's why historically forests were much smaller across the continent and fires much bigger... forest fires continually wiped everything out as part of the natural process of death/rejuvenation.

Drought has nothing to do with old growth, dead trees, either standing or littering the forest floors for years and drying out until a lightening strike or wandering idiot starts a fire.

PR_Glen 11-23-2018 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22371392)
If you're going to sit here and talk about how the state mismanages shit, then your mismanagement is fair game. And if your going to spew pro trump and alt right bullshit then you deserve what you get!

like the fake drought started by the dems here in cally....
trump is right ther asshols fucked everything up out here

Now you are trying to justify you going after him personally with that low blow?

no, didn't work... You overstepped with your comment. leave it at that.

SBJ 11-23-2018 03:13 PM

I made this just now..

https://i.imgflip.com/2napah.jpg

Grapesoda 11-23-2018 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22371377)
For a guy who loves to blast California, you'd think you'd take the proper precautions to insure and protect yourself from that liberal state government and it's bad policies!

I know! It's easier to slam them and have someone start a gofundme to beg for money instead of buying insurance in a state prone to wild fires

my thought is for you to start a content production business in your home for porn, then try and get renters ins, I'm pointing out bad resource management and I dob't really bash cally at all that I'm aware. my daughter started the gofundme without my knowledge


do you feel better now? your post was one steamy hot cunshot of hate. unfortunately I'm not able to take your post personally you don't know me have never met me and have never had any opportunity to develop such strong feeling about me...

what ever the fuck you're on about is in your shit filled head..do you get it? do me the common curtsy of keeping your shitfilled head to yourself.

try to be a fcuking man for a change. :2 cents:

Grapesoda 11-23-2018 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22371412)
So, you draw your conclusions as if they are fact and then ask for the facts?

So, a fact checker cannot relyy on a facebook guy but you can rely on your daughter's step dad for your "facts" because he is a hunter so he must know all about this stuff, right?

That is kind of completely ass backward, ya know?

.

I don't comb the internet for stuff generally. I spoke with several hunters that hunt in several states, over a period of years.. . and have seen first hand preventative forest management. I asked for a fact check just because I knew an asshole like you would show up. anything else I can help you with?

Grapesoda 11-23-2018 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22371415)
Now you are trying to justify you going after him personally with that low blow?

no, didn't work... You overstepped with your comment. leave it at that.

this is why Ive lost all respect for bronco guy, he has no convictions in his beliefs. pb is a low quality person Glen dont worry about him

Grapesoda 11-23-2018 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22371376)
so there are no droughts going on in california?

how much "forest management" was going on 200 years ago?

you do not remember the drought form a few years ago? do a search and then search the reason. haven't been able to get stuff chromed in cally for years

Grapesoda 11-23-2018 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22371390)
are any of the past droughts comparable to these current ones? Why weren't there catastrophic fires of this size before this 'management' took place?

thanks for your meme picture. I was trying to keep this discussion amongst us though, with our own words and thoughts being used, not ones that have been fed to us from unknown sources.

glen you have missed the point, the forest in cally are NOT managed. and unless you guys drive the forest like I do on regular basis what the fuck do even know anyway? I see the issues every day

OneHungLo 11-23-2018 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22371415)
Now you are trying to justify you going after him personally with that low blow?

no, didn't work... You overstepped with your comment. leave it at that.

Listen, and understand. He is an NPC. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

Bladewire 11-23-2018 04:58 PM

The California Forest management task force government website

One of my models, who's also my assistant, works in the feild for California FMTF half the year. His Snapchat is nothing but forest management crap daily, when he's working there durring summertime.

I had absolutely no idea of all the forest management work they do if it wasn't for subscribing to his Snapchat. Controlled Burns cutting bush down etc etc.

Grapesoda 11-23-2018 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22371452)
The California Forest management task force government website

One of my models, who's also my assistant, works in the feild for California FMTF half the year. His Snapchat is nothing but forest management crap daily, when he's working there durring summertime.

I had absolutely no idea of all the forest management work they do if it wasn't for subscribing to his Snapchat. Controlled Burns cutting bush down etc etc.

yeah just not enough I guess. dead and sick growth is not being pulled out

sarettah 11-23-2018 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22371433)
I don't comb the internet for stuff generally. I spoke with several hunters that hunt in several states, over a period of years.. . and have seen first hand preventative forest management. I asked for a fact check just because I knew an asshole like you would show up. anything else I can help you with?

You are such an insufferable asshole, you know that? You are so fucking full of yourself. Here's a clue for you dude, you ain't all that.

You drew conclusions, since you are a trumpet. conclusion means "a judgement or decision reached through reason and based on facts", thus you were considering the hearsay that you posted as facts.

Quote:

trump is right ther asshols fucked everything up out here
Then you said, hey, you guys go prove or disprove my facts for me.

As I stated, that is ass backwards reasoning, but that's the way you trumpettes roll, now isn't it.

Now :321GFY

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directfiesta 11-23-2018 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22371391)
This is pretty fucked up to go after him personally because you don't like his opinions. He's been through enough I think that he doesn't need that kind of bullshit...

He brought it on himself....

sarettah 11-23-2018 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22371436)
you do not remember the drought form a few years ago? do a search and then search the reason. haven't been able to get stuff chromed in cally for years

Well you better tell these guys about that because it might make a little dent in their business:

https://www.google.com/search?q=chro...lf:1,lf_ ui:2

http://www.madspiders.com/images/cali_chrome.jpg


How come none of you trumpturds can never make a statement without fucking lying?


:321GFY

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GAMEFINEST 11-23-2018 06:39 PM

Its all good.

California has fires and droughts, Wait til your State gets shit tons of snow and freezing weather that will disable your way of living in a few years, and when heaters stop working? oh lordy.. good luck to the Trump Fossil Fuel lovers

TheSquealer 11-23-2018 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22371468)
Well you better tell these guys about that because it might make a little dent in their business:



How come none of you trumpturds can never make a statement without fucking lying?


:321GFY

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it only takes 1 second to search "chrome plating law california" and see the environmental laws that he's talking about... and see that costs went through the roof.. meaning fewer places do it.... hence, it gets harder to find... or to find tons of CA people asking "where can i get chrome plating done.." which should be the obvious clue that it actually is a problem.

It's no reason to kick a good man while he's down either or provoke someone into a stupid pissing contest who just lost everything so you can be "right".

One thing that a Trump presidency has shown the world... and that's how hateful and bigoted the left truly is.

sarettah 11-23-2018 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22371489)
it only takes 1 second to search "chrome plating law california" and see the environmental laws that he's talking about...

And yet, you didn't bother to take a second or 2 and post a link to any of them.

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and see that costs went through the roof.. meaning fewer places do it.... hence, it gets harder to find... or to find tons of CA people asking "where can i get chrome plating done.." which should be the obvious clue that it actually is a problem.
He didn't claim it was expensive or hard to find. He stated twice that you could outright not get Chrome plating in California. That is a straight out lie.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22371262)
you can't even get your bumper chromed in cally

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22371436)
haven't been able to get stuff chromed in cally for years

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It's no reason to kick a good man while he's down either or provoke someone into a stupid pissing contest who just lost everything so you can be "right".
He doesdn't get a free pass to post bullshit just because he is going through hard times. If anything this is the time for him to humble up some and stop being the insufferable asshole he is being in this thread. This has absolutely nothing to do with the situation he has ended up in.


Quote:

One thing that a Trump presidency has shown the world... and that's how hateful and bigoted the left truly is.
WTF, he comes in wiith his conclusions regarding Democrats and praising his great pumpkin. Then calls me as asshole for daring to point out his reasoning is flawed and I'm the hater?

You have your reasoning ass backwards too.

:321GFY:


edited in: He was clearly trolling for a pissing contest. I gave him a little pissing back. So, I did what he wanted, that should help make him feel happier. You should be thanking me for helping him out by giving him this little present.

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TheSquealer 11-23-2018 07:48 PM

Yes, congratulations on beating him on a technicality while missing the point entirely. Brilliant stuff.

Again, just hate and anger and bigotry towards a person who just lost everything he owns. Why are you engaging someone who just went through an incredibly traumatic experience just so you can feel right and superior?

This is the new way of Democrats. The Party of Hate.

King Mark 11-23-2018 07:52 PM

So dramatic lol

Don't matter what your situation is, if u wrong u wrong.

BaldBastard 11-23-2018 07:56 PM

America is not the only country with fires

Cali is best compared to AUS as the drought conditions bring similar issues
, hence why hundreds of firefighters from USA come to Aus every year to help us, and hundreds from Aus go and help in USA,

We haven't had liberal government in 20 Years.. All the under growth here is burned off the as raking does fuck all due to the size and is only feasible in VERY limited situations.

Sadly even though we have extensive fire management we know this year like every year homes and lives will be lost. If you add a 80mph wind to any fire your in for a catastrophic scenario

Even Grape should of learned that, problem was not so much the fire but the wind, had of there been no wind.. Situation is more easy to contain and people have more time to react.

RedFred 11-23-2018 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hottoddy (Post 22371381)


Yet the fact that the President of Finland has openly said Trump is a lying bastard about him saying anything to Trump seems to blow right over Trump cultists heads. :1orglaugh

ANAL PASTE 11-23-2018 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22371262)
my daughters step daddy is a hunter in Utah

You could have stopped right there. Surely none other can be more informed about global shit like California fires and picking up leaves in Finland.
Was he wearing overalls and wife beater tee?

ANAL PASTE 11-23-2018 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hottoddy (Post 22371381)
There have been major droughts throughout the history of California, and forest management was fires burning at regular intervals with no houses in the way.

https://s3media.247sports.com/Upload...4/8834847.jpeg

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Fuck of a forest with trees that far apart.
Wouldn't be surprised that real use of this "hook up" has nothing to do with raking forests. Trump clowns are good at using stock pictures of Cavs parade or Korean riot police to fake their little meme posters.

crockett 11-23-2018 08:40 PM

Grape.. dont you think it's odd that Trumpoo waited until Black Friday to allow the release of a major US Global Warming study that disproves the entire Republican and Trump non sense?

He waited until he knew people were distracted and tried to quietly release it because a US govt study blasts holes in all Republicans talking points

Climate Change Report Challenges Donald Trump'''s Denials | Time

If these fires are the fault of mismanagement, then why was it not a problem 100 years ago?

sarettah 11-23-2018 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22371499)
Yes, congratulations on beating him on a technicality while missing the point entirely. Brilliant stuff.

Again, just hate and anger and bigotry towards a person who just lost everything he owns. Why are you engaging someone who just went through an incredibly traumatic experience just so you can feel right and superior?

This is the new way of Democrats. The Party of Hate.


It is not a technicality. I took it as he was saying the Chrome plating had been made illegal in Cali. If you do some checking you will find that a push was on about 10 years ago to do so. that push failed.

I thought, and still do, that he was falsely claiming that that push had succeeded.

If he is hurting so fucking bad from his situation he shouldn't be trolling the fucking board.

Should I assume that he is such a fucking snowflake that he does not want anyone to participate when he clearly invited the piss.

Like I said, he gets no pass in a thread like this, clearly created to troll.

So, now we have to let you trumptards win? Now I have to make sure to avoid your safe spaces? Do you hurt and have a tummy ache?

Get over yourself.

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directfiesta 11-24-2018 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22371498)
And yet, you didn't bother to take a second or 2 and post a link to any of them.



He didn't claim it was expensive or hard to find. He stated twice that you could outright not get Chrome plating in California. That is a straight out lie.





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He doesdn't get a free pass to post bullshit just because he is going through hard times. If anything this is the time for him to humble up some and stop being the insufferable asshole he is being in this thread. This has absolutely nothing to do with the situation he has ended up in.




WTF, he comes in wiith his conclusions regarding Democrats and praising his great pumpkin. Then calls me as asshole for daring to point out his reasoning is flawed and I'm the hater?

You have your reasoning ass backwards too.

:321GFY:


edited in: He was clearly trolling for a pissing contest. I gave him a little pissing back. So, I did what he wanted, that should help make him feel happier. You should be thanking me for helping him out by giving him this little present.

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100 % on point ....

But it seems that he spins his beliefs in truth .... , then double downs on the falsehoods ...

Seems familiar ....

He will be first in line to get support and money from the bad libbies running the state and WILL expect handouts, forgetting his stauch principals of each for himself ....

CurrentlySober 11-24-2018 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22371393)
everything is brown...

even more so when I lived there... :2 cents:

Grapesoda 11-24-2018 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22371465)
You are such an insufferable asshole, you know that? You are so fucking full of yourself. Here's a clue for you dude, you ain't all that.

You drew conclusions, since you are a trumpet. conclusion means "a judgement or decision reached through reason and based on facts", thus you were considering the hearsay that you posted as facts.



Then you said, hey, you guys go prove or disprove my facts for me.

As I stated, that is ass backwards reasoning, but that's the way you trumpettes roll, now isn't it.

Now :321GFY.

you cant help being stupid can you? I dont give one fuck about trump.and yes I do believe a bunch of guys I have know personally for 30 years, stabding in the mother fucking forest looking at chopped down fucking trees over some bullshit by a bunch of pollys playing CYW,
and the press that sucks their ass..gee Im sorry

I guess is is about the 4000th time, just for you. k, I don't have a political team..
, I don't play

Grapesoda 11-24-2018 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22371552)
100 % on point ....

But it seems that he spins his beliefs in truth .... , then double downs on the falsehoods ...

Seems familiar ....

He will be first in line to get support and money from the bad libbies running the state and WILL expect handouts, forgetting his stauch principals of each for himself ....

great shit bro, I'm exactly the same as I was.... you do not know mw, have never met me and never the fuck will, hopefully...


make all the shit up in your head you wish, and here is the proof that you are a low quality piece of shit. you attack me not the position = LOW QUALITY HUMAN for sure :2 cents:

your opinion is NOT a fact dipshit, and unlike you. pull up the facts a prove me wrong I don't mind being wrong..

prove me wrong or keep being a cunt and the crybaby name callingt?

sarettah 11-24-2018 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22371584)
I dont give one fuck about trump.and yes I do believe a bunch of guys I have know personally for 30 years, stabding in the mother fucking forest looking at chopped down fucking trees over some bullshit by a bunch of pollys playing CYW,
and the press that sucks their ass..gee Im sorry

I guess is is about the 4000th time, just for you. k, I don't have a political team..
, I don't play

So, now your daughter's stepdad is a "bunch of guys", ok.

And you might not play but you sure do a whole lot of cheerleading for the fucking team.

And you use the same tactics, change what you say as the story progresses and act as if you said something different before. Straight out of gaslight.

Looks like Trumpshit, Sounds like Trumpshit, smells like Trumpshit. Damn, it must be Trumpshit.

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Grapesoda 11-24-2018 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22371503)
America is not the only country with fires

Cali is best compared to AUS as the drought conditions bring similar issues
, hence why hundreds of firefighters from USA come to Aus every year to help us, and hundreds from Aus go and help in USA,

We haven't had liberal government in 20 Years.. All the under growth here is burned off the as raking does fuck all due to the size and is only feasible in VERY limited situations.

Sadly even though we have extensive fire management we know this year like every year homes and lives will be lost. If you add a 80mph wind to any fire your in for a catastrophic scenario

Even Grape should of learned that, problem was not so much the fire but the wind, had of there been no wind.. Situation is more easy to contain and people have more time to react.

yeah the fire jumped around here like crazy...place with the plants on the porch burned and the house okay. we had a 'brush fire' there are no heavy growth forest in the area of socal. in many place the fire left trees and burned the grass and moved on.

I brought this up because I am sick as fuck of the press and a bunch of assholes telling lies about trump all the time, (hillary did NOT win) and dude I know about cally winds... where the fuck do you think I live? :2 cents:

Grapesoda 11-24-2018 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22371390)
are any of the past droughts comparable to these current ones? Why weren't there catastrophic fires of this size before this 'management' took place?

thanks for your meme picture. I was trying to keep this discussion amongst us though, with our own words and thoughts being used, not ones that have been fed to us from unknown sources.

GLEN we have catastrophic fires every ten years

King Mark 11-24-2018 08:33 AM

For the record...

I don't care what your personal beliefs/feelings are, I still donated. I've lost everything more than once. I know that feeling.

However, being in a shitty situation is not a free pass to say what you want with no reply. That's all I want squealer to understand.

You guys have fun with all that...

directfiesta 11-24-2018 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22371592)

I brought this up because I am sick as fuck of the press and a bunch of assholes telling lies about trump all the time, (hillary did NOT win)...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22371584)
... I dont give one fuck about trump....

Oh, I see........ :)


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