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J. Falcon 12-04-2018 10:23 AM

Are Climate Change Deniers the Same Who Don't Believe in Evolution?
 
These people fascinate me.

For the most part, are they one and the same?

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J. Falcon 12-04-2018 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22376706)
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From your posts it's clear you don't think climate change is real. What's your stance on evolution?

onwebcam 12-04-2018 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22376713)
From your posts it's clear you don't think climate change is real. What's your stance on evolution?

I don't believe in an invisible man in the sky if that helps

TheSquealer 12-04-2018 10:45 AM

Has someone denied the climate is changing?

Ever?

No?

Didn't think so.

If you have to make a point by the constant reframing of the discussion around lies and distortions and dishonesty, then your point must be pretty weak.

J. Falcon 12-04-2018 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22376719)
Has someone denied the climate is changing?

Ever?

No?

Didn't think so.

If you have to make a point by the constant reframing of the discussion around lies and distortions and dishonesty, then your point must be pretty weak.

You know exactly what I'm talking about so stop being an ass. How could you not know? The entire world is discussing what to do about it. Except for Trump and Republicans, who don't believe the reports made by their own administration.

Bladewire 12-04-2018 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22376700)
These people fascinate me.

For the most part, are they one and the same?

Yes they have the same mental defect.

I'm not joking.

onwebcam 12-04-2018 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22376728)
You know exactly what I'm talking about so stop being an ass. How could you not know? The entire world is discussing what to do about it. Except for Trump and Republicans, who don't believe the reports made by their own administration.

Nope, a group of bankers, politicians and the people who want their funding have sold you on the Earth being flat so you need to pay them money. If you don't pay them the money the World is coming to an end and you're going to fall off it.

J. Falcon 12-04-2018 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22376731)
Nope, a group of bankers and the people who want their funding have sold you on the Earth being flat so you need to pay them money. If you don't pay them the money the World is coming to an end and you're going to fall off it.

Do you believe in evolution?

onwebcam 12-04-2018 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22376733)
Do you believe in evolution?

Yes, just as the World evolves.. Just like the climate changes.. You learn to adapt or die. Paying a group of people money isn't going to help me adapt.

TheSquealer 12-04-2018 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22376728)
You know exactly what I'm talking about so stop being an ass. How could you not know? The entire world is discussing what to do about it. Except for Trump and Republicans, who don't believe the reports made by their own administration.

Yeah, i know exactly what you are doing. Same as always with these discussions. You're changing the argument to frame it as something it absolutely isn't, positioning other viewpoints to be seen to believe something they aren't and then asking for your own team members comment on these false facts in a silly attempt to validate them.

bronco67 12-04-2018 11:12 AM

The question is...why do they want so badly to not believe it? I think it's more of a political reason.

onwebcam 12-04-2018 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22376740)
The question is...why do they want so badly to not believe it? I think it's more of a political reason.

Nope, it's a financial reason. Just ask the people of France/Paris. Why don't you run on down to Paris right now and preach on the streets about Climate Change and tell them you would like for them to pay more..

Bladewire 12-04-2018 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22376733)
Do you believe in evolution?

You could ask him about s specific aspect of evolution like monkeys to human or dinasour to birds or were humans here the second time as dinasours, aliens bringing life to earth in different phases etc.

When they say yes to believing in evolution they're likely not responding yes to the question with the same frame of mind as most.

they're a lot like Mormons when it comes to their religion they seem normal and answer questions normally but they don't mention the magic underwear or getting control of an alien planet when they die until you really get to know them.

Alt-right hate fake nic replies in 3.. 2.. 1...

The truth makes the fake nic troll defensive

onwebcam 12-04-2018 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22376743)
You could ask him about s specific aspect of evolution like monkeys to human or dinasour to birds or were humans here the second time as dinasours, aliens bringing life to earth in different phases etc.

When they say yes to believing in evolution they're likely not responding yes to the question with the same frame of mind as most.

they're a lot like Mormons when it comes to their religion they seem normal and answer questions normally but they don't mention the magic underwear or getting control of an alien planet when they die until you really get to know them.

I'm sure all of these ambulance drivers have magical underwear wearing alien ancestors


TheSquealer 12-04-2018 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22376743)
they're a lot like Mormons when it comes to their religion they seem normal and answer questions normally but they don't mention the magic underwear or getting control of an alien planet when they die until you really get to know them.

the usual bigoted intolerance of those who constantly demand tolerance,... from The Party of Hate.

CaptainHowdy 12-04-2018 11:34 AM

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King Mark 12-04-2018 12:45 PM

I don't believe in evolution the mainstream way, I don't deny evolution tho. However, the climate is changing faster than "normal" and the cause points to humans.

These deniers are professional deniers tho. T.U.R.Ds.

Bladewire 12-04-2018 12:59 PM

Just a reminder

The sun is getting hotter and it's expanding.

Man's polution that ends up in the atmosphere is accelerating the warming of the planet.




NewNick 12-04-2018 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22376719)
Has someone denied the climate is changing?

Ever?

No?

Didn't think so.

If you have to make a point by the constant reframing of the discussion around lies and distortions and dishonesty, then your point must be pretty weak.


Yes they have.

The Orange Baboon declared Climate Change to be a Chinese conspiracy.

That is an undeniable fact.

:thumbsup

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crockett 12-04-2018 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22376700)
These people fascinate me.

For the most part, are they one and the same?

Yes... Republican = fucking moron.

CaptainHowdy 12-04-2018 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22376797)
Just a reminder

The sun is getting hotter and it's expanding.

Man's polution that ends up in the atmosphere is accelerating the warming of the planet.





Diomed 12-04-2018 06:03 PM

I believe that man made climate change, pales in comparison to nature made climate change. But that one day, we will be able to control the climate. But nothing to do with the way we understand it today :2 cents:

The concept of evolution is obviously real, it's just a question of to what degree. Even if it's only a portion of the bigger picture, and certainly nothing like we understand it today :2 cents:

Grapesoda 12-04-2018 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22376700)
These people fascinate me.

For the most part, are they one and the same?

climate change is very real and has in fact been going on for 4.7 billion years, no shit! our little ball of dirt was formed by climate change. and boy have there been lots of issues with climate change.. french revolution comes to mind right way. you know the drought and all the crap plus the hallucinatory mold growing in the wheat when the rains did start... all definity climate change related for sure.......

but did GM and Ford crash the worlds climate because al gore, ben affleck and piers morgan and whoop goldberg said so, no. stop getting you science from memes off face book, okay?

King Mark 12-04-2018 10:55 PM

Just like age, everybody gets older. It's been happening forever. There's ways to accelerate that age tho. Are we god now? No. Take care of yourself (and planet) and you live a little longer.

MFCT 12-05-2018 12:50 AM

Interesting topic. I think its absurd to deny the clear scientific evidence asserting that climate change is real. Only idiots would deny that which is, for all practical purposes, scientific fact.

However, when it comes to scientific evidence of things I simply don't want to believe (due to the uncomfortable ramifications that belief would entail), I think its perfectly OK to disavow science as utter foolishness and stupidity only for idiots to believe. I can do so with a clear conscience and don't feel like a hypocrite at all. Case in point:

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All Humans Descended From Same Couple, Finds Study
November 27, 2018 at 1:33 pm

PHILADELPHIA (CBS) – All humans descended from a man and woman who lived 100,000 to 200,000 years ago, say researchers.

Mark Stoeckle, from the Rockefeller University in New York, and David Thaler, at the University of Basel in Switzerland, published their study in the journal Human Evolution.

They examined the genetic bar codes of 5 million animals, including humans, from 100,000 different species and deduced humans came from the same couple after a catastrophic event almost wiped out the human race.

According to their findings, the bar codes suggest nine out of every 10 animal species, also came from the same pair.
Source: https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/20...e-finds-study/

_Richard_ 12-05-2018 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 22376798)
Yes they have.

The Orange Baboon declared Climate Change to be a Chinese conspiracy.

That is an undeniable fact.

:thumbsup

almost on a daily basis too.. how clueless can one be

Paul Markham 12-05-2018 01:43 AM

Is Climate Change real? Yes.

Is Human Activity making it worse? Yes.

What's involved that we can change to lessen the effects? Well that's the big question no one will address on a meaningful basis.

_Richard_ 12-05-2018 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22377090)
Is Climate Change real? Yes.

Is Human Activity making it worse? Yes.

What's involved that we can change to lessen the effects? Well that's the big question no one will address on a meaningful basis.

isn't the EPA actions from 60s to 90s a good example of what can be done to change things? My understanding was things were fubar before the EPA was established

J. Falcon 12-05-2018 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22376793)
I don't believe in evolution the mainstream way, I don't deny evolution tho. However, the climate is changing faster than "normal" and the cause points to humans.

These deniers are professional deniers tho. T.U.R.Ds.

I wasn't aware there was a mainstream evolution. There is only one theory of evolution, so what are you talking about?

J. Falcon 12-05-2018 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22376719)
Has someone denied the climate is changing?

Ever?

No?

Didn't think so.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtUrL58WcAEp2WJ.jpg

Your own ignorant fucking president. Don't you feel stupid now?

pimpmaster9000 12-05-2018 03:28 AM

there will be almost 10 billion humans in 20 years time...in the last 20 years, the exploitation of raw materials (iron, aluminium, copper etc) has tripled and it is safe to say that it will at least double in the next 20 years...by 2050 we will generate 5x the waste we do today...with ever expanding mass production, goods are becoming cheaper and cheaper we will easily reach record levels of pollution each year...

https://cdn.static-economist.com/sit...609_wom915.png

whether we need to take urgent action to protect the environment we live in is not even up for discussion...whether climate change is caused by man or not is practically irrelevant...mankind gets fucked either way by the climate, but this is only a part of the problem...pollution and unsustainable exploitation of resources are still very real...stepping out of the paris climate agreement was a dumb move, the actual cause of global warming is a non issue...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5-lDJWCUAAwfya.jpg

_Richard_ 12-05-2018 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22377115)
I wasn't aware there was a mainstream evolution. There is only one theory of evolution, so what are you talking about?

well there is the text book 'chain of events' and then there is the daily 'new ancestor discovered'..

crockett 12-05-2018 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22376719)
Has someone denied the climate is changing?

Ever?

No?

Didn't think so.

If you have to make a point by the constant reframing of the discussion around lies and distortions and dishonesty, then your point must be pretty weak.

Actually yes you morons did deny it was happening at first. You guys claimed it was all normal at 1st. Then once you couldn't argue that you guys shifted the goal posts to saying it wasnt mans fault.

When Al Gore made his documentary all you right wing dildos were claiming it was all fake and this was normal. You guys claimed it was all just an excuse to tax people for carbon credits, being that was the focus on a way to curb the pollution

Then once it was proven the global temp was rising you guys shifted to the it's not man's fault.. it's the sun or this or that...

Also you are a idiot..

2MuchMark 12-05-2018 09:57 AM

People who don't think climate change is real don't think science is real.

MFCT 12-05-2018 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22377254)
People who don't think climate change is real don't think science is real.

This is exactly what I was saying in my post above. Science is real and indisputable fact.

As long as I agree with it politically, of course.

Bladewire 12-05-2018 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22377090)
Is Climate Change real? Yes.

Is Human Activity making it worse? Yes.

What's involved that we can change to lessen the effects? Well that's the big question no one will address on a meaningful basis.

Democrats address climate change on a meaningful basis and pass legislation.

Republicans shake their head no and say climate change is a Chinese conspiracy to make America less competitive.


Acepimp 12-05-2018 10:29 AM

The theory of evolution is just that- a theory. It's not the "law" of evolution, it's the theory- unproven.

Also climate change is real. It's been changing of nuts own for thousands of years. The models have never been accurate. First it was global cooling, then it was the greenhouse effect, then global warming (debunked) and now "climate change." Pollution is real but carbon taxes on civilians is a joke. CO2 is not a pollutant.

King Mark 12-05-2018 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22377115)
I wasn't aware there was a mainstream evolution. There is only one theory of evolution, so what are you talking about?

I don't have the will to get too deep at the moment. I'm about to fire up some programs and get to work. But here's a primer: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla...s_on_evolution

Also, microevolution/macroevolution... Etc.

All the science in the world can't prove that something can come from nothing... So... It gets too deep for my will at the moment lol.

bronco67 12-05-2018 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22377272)
The theory of evolution is just that- a theory. It's not the "law" of evolution, it's the theory- unproven.

.

The theory is an alternative to a fairy tale in a two thousand year old book. That's all that's important. Dumb ass.

Let me guess...you don't believe in evolution because it wouldn't be congruent with the trollish, anti-common sense character you try to portray.

bronco67 12-05-2018 11:24 AM

These people who don't believe in it are going to be responsible for our children needing to fight the Great Spear War of 2040.

Acepimp 12-05-2018 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22377302)
The theory is an alternative to a fairy tale in a two thousand year old book. That's all that's important. Dumb ass.

Who said it's one or the other?

:rasta

onwebcam 12-05-2018 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22377183)
Actually yes you morons did deny it was happening at first. You guys claimed it was all normal at 1st. Then once you couldn't argue that you guys shifted the goal posts to saying it wasnt mans fault.

When Al Gore made his documentary all you right wing dildos were claiming it was all fake and this was normal. You guys claimed it was all just an excuse to tax people for carbon credits, being that was the focus on a way to curb the pollution

Then once it was proven the global temp was rising you guys shifted to the it's not man's fault.. it's the sun or this or that...

Also you are a idiot..

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

"Shifted the goal post.." Yes, we changed the name from the specific "Global Warming" to the generic "Climate change" because our theories kept getting debunked..

We all have to agree that climate changes right? Right? So PAY your part to stop the climate from changing as it has done for millions of years.

As I said, take your argument to the streets of Paris RIGHT NOW

What would you be saying. as a truck driver, if gas was $8 a gallon comprised of 60+% taxes?

We both know you'd be back to selling on amazon and paying out the ass for shipping.

Bladewire 12-05-2018 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22377303)
These people who don't believe in it are going to be responsible for our children needing to fight the Great Spear War of 2040.

They're the same kind of losers that forgot , or were never taught about, acid rain.

Stupid is as stupid does.

You can't talk sense into stupid :2 cents:

Bladewire 12-05-2018 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22377300)
All the science in the world can't prove that something can come from nothing... So... It gets too deep for my will at the moment lol.

You don't need science to prove something can come from nothing.

Close your eyes and think of an object you've never seen in the shape you've never seen in a place you've ever seen. Congratulations you just created something out of nothing.

J. Falcon 12-05-2018 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22377272)
The theory of evolution is just that- a theory. It's not the "law" of evolution, it's the theory- unproven.

You're trolling right?

Laws are not above theories in science. This is a scientific theory we're talking about, like the theory of gravity and the atomic theory. In Science, theory = fact.

The theory of evolution is a fact. The theory of evolution explains how it works.

J. Falcon 12-05-2018 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22377300)
I don't have the will to get too deep at the moment. I'm about to fire up some programs and get to work. But here's a primer: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla...s_on_evolution

Also, microevolution/macroevolution... Etc.

All the science in the world can't prove that something can come from nothing... So... It gets too deep for my will at the moment lol.

Evolution does not say that something came from nothing. That is one of the stereotypical fallacies use to refute it. If you're referring to how life started on earth, that is a comletely different field called abiogenesis that has nothing to do with evolution.

Micro and macro evolution are the same thing, only difference is macro ocurrs over millions of years and micro are simply smaller changes.

RedFred 12-05-2018 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22377272)
The theory of evolution is just that- a theory. It's not the "law" of evolution, it's the theory- unproven.

Also climate change is real. It's been changing of nuts own for thousands of years. The models have never been accurate. First it was global cooling, then it was the greenhouse effect, then global warming (debunked) and now "climate change." Pollution is real but carbon taxes on civilians is a joke. CO2 is not a pollutant.


Don't they have basic science classes in your country?


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