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Paul Markham 12-05-2018 08:47 AM

No deal is better than a bad deal was a lie.
 
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Theresa May's Brexit backstop plan risks a "stalemate" and "protracted rounds of negotiations" with the EU, the full legal advice on her deal says.

Newly published documents show the PM was told an arrangement designed to prevent a hard Irish border could last "indefinitely" and the UK could not "lawfully exit" without EU agreement.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46451970

What's becoming clearer is how Prime Minister May has scuppered any decent deal with the EU. As a Remainder this is an excellent outcome for her. The deal ties the UK in definitely to the EU. Is it time to tell the EU to go fuck itself?

Bladewire 12-05-2018 08:51 AM

Prime Minister May is an exceptional leader

Paul Markham 12-05-2018 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22377228)
Prime Minister May is an exceptional leader

Exceptional for what? :1orglaugh

Busty2 12-05-2018 09:32 AM

My kind of PM
 
http://www.boobpedia.com/wiki/images/d/d4/TeresaMay.jpg

Bladewire 12-05-2018 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22377240)
Exceptional for what? :1orglaugh

So the Brexit road bump negates everything she's ever done in your eyes. Got it. That's very short-sighted of you Paul.

imabro 12-05-2018 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22377252)
So the Brexit road bump negates everything she's ever done in your eyes. Got it. That's very short-sighted of you Paul.

Why not answer the fucking question?

Rochard 12-05-2018 10:03 AM

I thought this was about the deal that Trump made with China at the G20 Summit, which... Doesn't seem like a deal at all. The White House is now back pedaling from it...

imabro 12-05-2018 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22377256)
I thought this was about the deal that Trump made with China at the G20 Summit, which... Doesn't seem like a deal at all. The White House is now back pedaling from it...

In other words, you didn't understand.

Bladewire 12-05-2018 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22377256)
I thought this was about the deal that Trump made with China at the G20 Summit, which... Doesn't seem like a deal at all. The White House is now back pedaling from it...

The Chinese have not confirmed that there is a deal.

The stock market crashed yesterday because big business knows the tariffs aren't stopped because they get charged every day they import goods so they know Trump is lying to the public & to them.

Oh! And let's not forget, Trump is losing the tarriff war. Our trade gap with China has widened and is is now higher than ever in American history. #thanksTrump

China’s trade surplus with the U.S. hit a record $34.1 billion in September amid trade war

Paul Markham 12-05-2018 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22377252)
So the Brexit road bump negates everything she's ever done in your eyes. Got it. That's very short-sighted of you Paul.

So tell us all What has she done, in your eyes, that's so good?

She lost the election she called and to who? Jeremy Corbyn who had the worse approval rating at the start of the election process. She lost it because she can't debate, came out with the same stupid sound bites, she's wooden to the extreme, advised by useless civil servants and follows that advice blindly, she was in charge of the Home Office prior to becoming PM and initiated the Windrush scandal, Did little to cut back on migration while promising to do her upmost, etc.

Now tell us what she achieved?

Paul Markham 12-05-2018 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22377269)
The Chinese have not confirmed that there is a deal.

The stock market crashed yesterday because big business knows the tariffs aren't stopped because they get charged every day they import goods so they know Trump is lying to the public & to them.

Oh! And let's not forget, Trump is losing the tarriff war. Our trade gap with China has widened and is is now higher than ever in American history. #thanksTrump

China’s trade surplus with the U.S. hit a record $34.1 billion in September amid trade war

How would you slow down American jobs disappearing to China?

onwebcam 12-05-2018 11:05 AM

Many European countries will end up in civil war before long. These "leaders" don't give a shit about what their citizenry think.. In turn the citizens will turn on them in a bad way.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtkJDIMXgAAglV2.jpg:large

bronco67 12-05-2018 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22377224)
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46451970

What's becoming clearer is how Prime Minister May has scuppered any decent deal with the EU. As a Remainder this is an excellent outcome for her. The deal ties the UK in definitely to the EU. Is it time to tell the EU to go fuck itself?

No deal is better than a bad deal was a lie.

You have a unique talent for constructing nonsensical sentences. It's because you're full of nonsense.

Bladewire 12-05-2018 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22377289)
How would you slow down American jobs disappearing to China?

You're changing the topic because you are incapable of discussing Trump's failure.

Trump has widened the trade Gap with China

Trump has created the greatest trade deficit with China in American history.

iceboi 12-05-2018 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22377224)
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46451970

What's becoming clearer is how Prime Minister May has scuppered any decent deal with the EU. As a Remainder this is an excellent outcome for her. The deal ties the UK in definitely to the EU. Is it time to tell the EU to go fuck itself?

What is clear is that she is serving her own interest and not the public's. This just shows that democracy is dead. Unless the people march on Parliament and make the history making decision to evict these bastards and start again, nothing will change. You can sign petitions, write to your MP, wave your banners and chant your chants and they will ignore you because they have the armed State to crush you.

CaptainHowdy 12-05-2018 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Busty2 (Post 22377244)

:2 cents: :1orglaugh . . .

Paul Markham 12-06-2018 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22377296)
You're changing the topic because you are incapable of discussing Trump's failure.

Trump has widened the trade Gap with China

Trump has created the greatest trade deficit with China in American history.

You posted your usual garbage about Trump. I asked you how you would stop American jobs disappearing to China. You avoided answering. Do you want me to explain why the trade gap will widen at first?

https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-china...utions-3306277

The gap will widen at first, then China will realise that a trade war with it's second biggest customer, who it buys so little from, is short sighted. Then they will be forced to buy more or export less.

As you can see from the link I showed, one of the reasons is US companies manufacturing in China. Great for the bosses, lousy for the rest.

Still waiting for your reply to what May has done that is so great.

Paul Markham 12-06-2018 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by iceboi (Post 22377313)
What is clear is that she is serving her own interest and not the public's. This just shows that democracy is dead. Unless the people march on Parliament and make the history making decision to evict these bastards and start again, nothing will change. You can sign petitions, write to your MP, wave your banners and chant your chants and they will ignore you because they have the armed State to crush you.

EU elections will show a further rise of the Right Wing who will hopefully change the course of the EU. Or it will illustrate that the EU isn't a democracy and MEPs don't hold the real power.

MaDalton 12-06-2018 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22377224)
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46451970

What's becoming clearer is how Prime Minister May has scuppered any decent deal with the EU. As a Remainder this is an excellent outcome for her. The deal ties the UK in definitely to the EU. Is it time to tell the EU to go fuck itself?

please move out of the EU then and stop taking their benefits

you were lied to by Boris and Nigel, you swallowed their claims hook, line and sinker and now everyone keeps playing surprised that you can't just leave and keep just the good things.

I have zero sympathies for the chaos that will arise, you brought it onto yourself

Paul Markham 12-06-2018 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22377636)
please move out of the EU then and stop taking their benefits

you were lied to by Boris and Nigel, you swallowed their claims hook, line and sinker and now everyone keeps playing surprised that you can't just leave and keep just the good things.

I have zero sympathies for the chaos that will arise, you brought it onto yourself

I thought the EU was about everyone benefiting. Or does that only apply to Germans?

Boris didn't lie when he said it was about regaining our democracy.


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