How WWI really began..
 

Someone is about to have their work cut out for them :thumbsup

Since this place is no longer about the porn business, I would love to hear any genuine* opinions (both sides).

*Exludes paid shill opinions and defense tactics (seen here - https://gfy.com/search.php?do=findus...&starteronly=1)

*Tactics that un-hinged manipulative paid shills like Bladewire just can't stop themselves from participating in.

Diomed is an untrustworthy bet welcher.

No impulse control is part of it's mental disability

I blame muslims...

More propoganda from the alt-right.

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Diomed said he couldn't stand the political threads on GFY.... so he makes more

Thirteen months before the Assassination in Sarajevo and fourteen months before the Austro-Hungarian declaration of war to Serbia on the 28th May 1913 the Governor of BiH Oskar Potiorek sent a letter to the Minister of Finance, Leon Bilinski, to Vienna. The content of this letter convincingly testifies about intentions of Austria-Hungary to begin the Great War.

In the letter, published today in the Department of History of The Andrić Institute in Andrićgrad, Potiorek states that “as the main task of the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy must be seen in the systematically preparing for, in a few years, the inevitable Great War that will be fought in extreme and severe situations.”

“It is interesting that during this quiet, better to say the preparatory period, we must try to create a tolerable relationship with Serbia. Of course, it would be a grave misconception, if we believed that, even at the cost of the greatest courtesy in the foreign and internal policy, we could achieve to make Serbia a reliable ally.


If, as it is likely to be, we do not use the current situation to unite Serbia with our Monarchy, at least in the form of trade, customs, and military convention, in order to make Serbia harmless, then we will have to unconditionally count on that this country will in every war, that is to come, fight with as an open and bitter opponent on the side of our enemies,” says the letter.

Potiorek says that we also must take into consideration the fact that Serbia will use this period before the war “to prepare the ground for themselves for the future war in Bosnia, Dalmatia, Croatia and southern kingdom of Hungary.”

“We should be satisfied if we manage a rural Serb population be hold in its lethargic state, and if we prevent Croat and Muslim intelligentsia and half-intelligentsia from crossing over to Serbian camp, to hold the unification of all the South Slavs, what is a common aspiration of people that are on anti-dynasty basis, “says the letter.

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Potiorek’s letter – Testimony of the Austro-Hungarian war intentions | The Andri? Institute

WW1 was raw and brutal. I love reading about combat and tactics, and it's my favorite war to read about.

ww1 was raw and brutal ? so what about ww2???
no other war brought so many suffering, especially among civilians

World war #3 will start on social media.

I look at it from a soldier's point of view.

WW1 had trench warfare, poison gas, massive artillery barrages, the first use of tanks, first use of airplanes, first widespread use of submarines, machineguns were becoming more mainstream. Aside from the artillery, most of the fighting was done face to face with rifles, bayonets, pistols, grenades, swords, and shovels. Yes, shovels.

That's what I mean by raw and brutal.

Warfare that came afterwards was more mechanized and used more efficient methods of killing. It took all the romance out of it.

we will soon nuke/bacteria up and take the "romance" out of your profession even more :thumbsup

there is no reason to give invaders a fair fight :thumbsup

Who the fuck is "we"?

I know you're not including your non-combatant ass with some fighting force capable of delivering a biological or nuclear weapon :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You are constantly wishing death on a lot of people. Doesn't it get tiresome?

this is true, I am not in any "Shall we nuke up?" committee...I am just pointing out the obvious truth that conventional warfare is not an option for small countries who want to defend themselves against invaders...I will let you connect the dots :thumbsup


if small countries asking to be left alone is too much to ask, then invaders and their allies wanting to continue to exist is also too much...we have the right to defend ourselves...if you do not like it then tough nipples :thumbsup

but Serbia is not a small country, its a Empire with international ambitions :thumbsup:thumbsup
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when Serbia will land on the moon ? Does the world revolve around Serbia ?
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I am not advocating any "great" country at all....I want ALL small countries to be free from the invasion racket...I am also not advocating any violence or first strike...I believe the weak have the right to defend themselves and the invaders get to suck a dick if they do not like it...

Of course, it was more raw and brutal than ww2, incredible that someone is still out there not understanding this. Then I've figured out that you are responding to Klint :Oh crap

Anyway, during ww1, it was a "normal" thing for dozens of thousands of soldiers to die without gaining a few meters of the land. There was a huge % of hand to hand combat, compared to ww2 and modern warfare. L

WW1 - Estimated to be 10 million military dead, 7 million civilian deaths, 21 million wounded, and 7.7 million missing or imprisoned.
Over 60 million people died in World War II. Estimated deaths range from 50-80 million. 38 to 55 million civilians were killed, including 13 to 20 million from war-related disease and famine.
Later, after comprehending these facts, you may read something about death camps, genocide in conquered lands,mostly Poland, Soviet Union, China, Yugoslavia, siege of cities like St. Petersburg, Stalingrad, eastern front, Japanese war crimes in China, how the Soviet commanders valued life of their soldiers, and air bombings in Poland, USSR and finally - Germany. You may include in that Nagasaki and Hiroshima. That would be enough for some time for you to comprehend I guess.

Stop wasting your precious time on GFY, better go walk around Belgrad and shoot some photos of Muslims ! When Karadzic and Mladic will resurect/ go pack to power, your service will be appreciated. Maybe they will even give you some apartment of Muslim family, while sending them to death camp :thumbsup:thumbsup

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even if so, how dying killed by bayonet is easier than dying being overworked to death, by famine, by being wounded, frozen to death, burned by German flamethrower in Warsaw and so on ?

You should give lessons of your retardness to the others :thumbsup:thumbsup

it doesnt mean that these methods were less cruel or painful. read my posts above.
But if you are from USA it actually doesnt matter that much as... - you never had war on your territory and your total human losses in WW2 were few times smaller than casualties during siege of ONE city in USSR (St.Petersburg, previously Leningrad).