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OneHungLo 01-28-2019 07:02 PM

Muslims working for Amazon staged a walkout protest on Friday to demand a more Islamic workplace.
 
Can you believe these losers? We let them into the country and they "demand" they get time to pray 5 times a day? GTFO. Fire these assholes and do not concede to one single fucking demand.


https://i.imgur.com/mk86i7c.jpg

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Somali immigrants in Minnesota who are now working for Amazon staged a walkout protest on Friday to demand a more Islamic workplace.

The protesters, many of whom are “refugees” claiming victimhood status in America which has ben generous enough to accept them from the terror hotbed otherwise known as Somalia, are demanding that Amazon give them longer breaks for Islamic prayers. Muslims pray five times a day, which means the Muslim employees at Amazon in Minnesota are requesting at least 5 paid breaks a day.

It is worth noting that one never hears stories about Jewish and Christian employees who work for Amazon and other large companies staging protests demanding more breaks for so called “religious reasons”. On Fridays, Jews celebrate Shabbat, yet you never see Jewish employees who work at Amazon demanding the company pay them so they can leave early to go home and pray. Praying is an extracurricular activity that is separate from one’s job, and employers are not responsible for making sure people are able to hold religious services while on the clock.

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Somali immigrants in Minnesota who are now working for Amazon staged a walkout protest on Friday to demand a more Islamic workplace.

The protesters, many of whom are “refugees” claiming victimhood status in America which has ben generous enough to accept them from the terror hotbed otherwise known as Somalia, are demanding that Amazon give them longer breaks for Islamic prayers. Muslims pray five times a day, which means the Muslim employees at Amazon in Minnesota are requesting at least 5 paid breaks a day.

It is worth noting that one never hears stories about Jewish and Christian employees who work for Amazon and other large companies staging protests demanding more breaks for so called “religious reasons”. On Fridays, Jews celebrate Shabbat, yet you never see Jewish employees who work at Amazon demanding the company pay them so they can leave early to go home and pray. Praying is an extracurricular activity that is separate from one’s job, and employers are not responsible for making sure people are able to hold religious services while on the clock.



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Something must be said of how Jews and Christians have managed to assimilate into the American workplace and Congress without constantly demanding special treatments.

Not only did the Muslim employees walk out to demand a more Islamic workplace, but the organizers of the protest chose to hold the protest during the busy holiday season, less than 2 weeks before Christmas, to “send a message” to Amazon.

Newly elected Congresswoman Ilhan Omar who herself is a Somali who represents Minnesota’s 5th Congressional district was present at the protest to demand Amazon become more Islamic. She suggested that making Muslims package holiday gifts in the factory stripped them of their “dignity”.

Omar, who is a practicing Muslim, is on the record making hateful remarks towards Jews and Christians. In 2012, Omar tweeted that Israel was “evil”, and just days ago, she mocked Vice President Mike Pence’s Christian faith on Twitter, sparking outrage from Christians.

So why do the Somali employees at Amazon and Ilhan Omar think they are so special?

The Somalis who protested are claiming that the working conditions at Amazon are poor because they “aren’t Muslim enough”.

However, since hiring large amounts of Somali refugees to work at the Amazon warehouse in Shakopee, Minnesota, Amazon has been more than accommodating to Muslim employees.

Besides taking on the burden of hiring many non-English speaking Somali workers, Amazon has also provided prayer mats for workers, converted a conference room into an Islamic prayer room during Ramadan, and changed shift transfers for workers who were fasting during Ramadan.

But the Somali workers are still complaining they don’t have enough time to pray.

When was the last time Amazon converted a conference room into a church or a synagogue?

The answer is never, because Jews and Christians have come to value and appreciate assimilation, and there is an understanding in the civilized West that one’s professional business is separate from their personal or religious business.

Not only are the Muslim employees demanding they be paid on the clock to pray, but they are also requesting Amazon pay reparations to “struggling Muslim immigrant families” in Minnesota to make up for all of the Muslim labor at Amazon, apparently failing to grasp the concept of a timesheet. Here in America, people are paid for their labor by the hour.

“It’s not a handout or a donation. This is so Amazon can give back into the community a portion of what they have taken so much of,” said Mohamed Omar, a local imam.

Newsflash Mohamed: You don’t get a bonus just because you’re Muslim.

Welcome to America.

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SilentKnight 01-28-2019 07:10 PM

Inch by inch - the gall of these fuckers never ceases to amaze me at times.

astronaut x 01-28-2019 07:22 PM

All religions suck.

King Mark 01-28-2019 07:23 PM

Too bad state law over there guarantees Islam will win. Freedom of religion and all that.

astronaut x 01-28-2019 07:25 PM

Many Amazon workers don't have enough time to take a dump.

Must be why Currently Sober cant a4rd anything.

shake 01-28-2019 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22406015)
All religions suck.

That's for sure...

OneHungLo 01-28-2019 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22406016)
Too bad state law over there guarantees Islam will win. Freedom of religion and all that.

It doesn't guarantee shit. Look up "undue hardship."

An employer need not provide an accommodation that will create an undue hardship for the company. taking 5 additional breaks during the day to pray is BS . If you work 8 hours you got 16 hours on your own time to pray. Take that shit back to your goat fucking 7th century ass backwoods hell hole you came from.

See this is the bullshit they start with. Pretty soon if they ever hit 3-5% ( let's hope that never happens here) they'll start asking for their own arbitrators in courts trying to circumvent our laws like they do in the UK. Thank god we have many states that already have laws on the books forbidding any kind of sharia fuckery.

CjTheFish 01-28-2019 08:27 PM

Maga baby

BaldBastard 01-28-2019 08:34 PM

Maybe get your head out of right wing spin sites?

60% of the workforce there is Somali

"Workers say its hard to reach that 230 item an hour requirement because their time is interrupted when they leave the production line for prayer."

Note it doesn't say they don't.. just that its hard.

Amazon have increased the productivity requirements by 50% in the past 12 months.. with no extra pay.

But none of that was actually the main bitch, it was..

"This group wants Amazon to promote workers from their majority East African workforce and to use profits to fund initiatives that address issues like lack of safe and affordable housing. They believe Amazon should work with it’s Somali workers to reduce economic disparity in the community it heavily recruits from. "
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Now I don't know about you, but I'd say that's a sign they are becoming more American! Show me one Amazon warehouse where employees don't bitch about productivity requirements.

Since 60% of the workforce is Somali... Amazon knows fully fucking well what their work habits are and you'd think they'd bend a little to keep it. The 5 preyers a day take less than a hour, what's that $7.50?


https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2018/...-worker-rally/

Amazon, East African workers at odds over conditions at Shakopee center - StarTribune.com

OneHungLo 01-28-2019 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22406062)
Maybe get your head out of right wing spin sites?

60% of the workforce there is Somali

"Workers say its hard to reach that 230 item an hour requirement because their time is interrupted when they leave the production line for prayer."

Note it doesn't say they don't.. just that its hard.

Amazon have increased the productivity requirements by 50% in the past 12 months.. with no extra pay.

But none of that was actually the main bitch, it was..

"This group wants Amazon to promote workers from their majority East African workforce and to use profits to fund initiatives that address issues like lack of safe and affordable housing. They believe Amazon should work with it’s Somali workers to reduce economic disparity in the community it heavily recruits from. "
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Now I don't know about you, but I'd say that's a sign they are becoming more American! Show me one Amazon warehouse where employees don't bitch about productivity requirements.

Since 60% of the workforce is Somali... Amazon knows fully fucking well what their work habits are and you'd think they'd bend a little to keep it. The 5 preyers a day take less than a hour, what's that $7.50?


https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2018/...-worker-rally/

Amazon, East African workers at odds over conditions at Shakopee center - StarTribune.com


Nice try. Why do you come into my thread trying to muddy it up with lies? They are crying because Amazon isn't giving them time to pray 5 times a day.

How's about Vox, a liberal rag reporting the same thing.

https://i.imgur.com/cLvBY5y.png

https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/12/14/18141291/amazon-fulfillment-center-east-africa-workers-minneapolis

King Mark 01-28-2019 09:06 PM

You are sadly mistaken. That's why Islam is winning.

Mr Pheer 01-28-2019 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22406062)
Maybe get your head out of right wing spin sites?

60% of the workforce there is Somali

"Workers say its hard to reach that 230 item an hour requirement because their time is interrupted when they leave the production line for prayer."

Note it doesn't say they don't.. just that its hard.

Amazon have increased the productivity requirements by 50% in the past 12 months.. with no extra pay.

But none of that was actually the main bitch, it was..

"This group wants Amazon to promote workers from their majority East African workforce and to use profits to fund initiatives that address issues like lack of safe and affordable housing. They believe Amazon should work with it’s Somali workers to reduce economic disparity in the community it heavily recruits from. "
-----------

Now I don't know about you, but I'd say that's a sign they are becoming more American! Show me one Amazon warehouse where employees don't bitch about productivity requirements.

Since 60% of the workforce is Somali... Amazon knows fully fucking well what their work habits are and you'd think they'd bend a little to keep it. The 5 preyers a day take less than a hour, what's that $7.50?


https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2018/...-worker-rally/

Amazon, East African workers at odds over conditions at Shakopee center - StarTribune.com

It'll be ok.

The robots are coming, and they don't need to pray. These Somali fuckers will have 24 hours a day to pray that they can find a new job soon.

BaldBastard 01-28-2019 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22406064)
Nice try. Why do you come into my thread trying to muddy it up with lies? They are crying because Amazon isn't giving them time to pray 5 times a day.

How's about Vox, a liberal rag reporting the same thing.

https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/12/14/18141291/amazon-fulfillment-center-east-africa-workers-minneapolis

I take it your unable to read a word in the link you posted? Maybe get out of the basement and ask mom to help???

And a 100 people out of a 3000 workforce?... you've been clucked.

Read how the Aussie's are coping with Amazon working conditions

'hellscape'
https://www.smh.com.au/business/work...07-p502ao.html

OneHungLo 01-28-2019 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22406075)
I take it your unable to read a word in the link you posted? Maybe get out of the basement and ask mom to help???

And a 100 people out of a 3000 workforce?... you've been clucked.

Read how the Aussie's are coping with Amazon working conditions

'hellscape'
https://www.smh.com.au/business/work...07-p502ao.html


"As a practicing Muslim, Ibrahin tries to pray five times a day. But because Amazon has the warehouse associates working on a strict hourly packing quota, she says she cannot take a prayer break."

I don't care if it's 100 or 10,000, they're still crying and doing muslim type shit. Assimilate or get the fuck out.

BaldBastard 01-28-2019 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22406079)
"As a practicing Muslim, Ibrahin tries to pray five times a day. But because Amazon has the warehouse associates working on a strict hourly packing quota, she says she cannot take a prayer break."

I don't care if it's 100 or 10,000, they're still crying and doing muslim type shit. Assimilate or get the fuck out.

Now your grasping at straws, if they made it a requirement that everyone must work Sundays.. then out of a employee pool of 3000, you can bet 100 Christians would be standing up screaming.

Maybe go back to bashing the Amish...

OneHungLo 01-28-2019 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22406081)
Now your grasping at straws, if they made it a requirement that everyone must work Sundays.. then out of a employee pool of 3000, you can bet 100 Christians would be standing up screaming.

Maybe go back to bashing the Amish...

Having a day off for prayer or religious reasons is an easy work around (nobody works 7 days a week). Having to stop and pray 5 times a day and having an entire month of shit production because you're not eating, isn't.

Pull the muslim dick out of your ear.

King Mark 01-28-2019 10:16 PM

Sorry but Islam is here. To stay. Fastest growing religion in America. Freedom of religion. Sucks for redhats. Federal law prohibits employers from engaging in religious discrimination. America was founded on religious freedom. This ain't Russia.

https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/religion.cfm

My avatar is pleased

BaldBastard 01-28-2019 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22406083)
Having a day off for prayer or religious reasons is an easy work around (nobody works 7 days a week). Having to stop and pray 5 times a day and having an entire month of shit production because you're not eating, isn't.

Pull the muslim dick out of your ear.

Find another warehouse that's got a 230 item an hour requirement.. that's being meet, which these guys are..

Maybe there's a reason Amazon use them as 60% of their workforce, especially when they keep saying it has one of the fastest packing times in the country...

Could it possibly be there happy to work 6 days a week, 12 hours a day and on Sundays? and do that faster than any white fellas can?

See Amazon know all these things when they employ them including their faiths requirements. No one's complaining about them meeting the requirements that were put to them at the time of employment, its just that Amazon has raised those by 50% in the past 12 months.

Any business in any western country that does that to a group of 3000 workers.. will more than likely find at least 100 of them... go "fuck that we'll strike".

Its called being American isn't?

King Mark 01-28-2019 11:34 PM

My brother in Florida works in a warehouse, 2nd shift. Fridays off, and for Ramadan he's allowed to merge his 2 paid breaks into 1 and coincide it with breaking fast.

#MAGA since before trump

pimpmaster9000 01-29-2019 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 22406008)
Inch by inch - the gall of these fuckers never ceases to amaze me at times.

yes it is really inconsiderate of them to run from all the countries the USA de-stabilizes and bombs the shit out of...how rude of them to demand anything from total invaders USA that totally mind their own business and never tell anybody how to live :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

oh the gall! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

eric_wahlberg 01-29-2019 02:54 AM

No jobs for Muslims
 
If Muslims continues with this protest, nobody in US will give them jobs.

Plus, trump will be back again with thumping majority.

Paul Markham 01-29-2019 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22406016)
Too bad state law over there guarantees Islam will win. Freedom of religion and all that.

Why don't the Muslim workers work for a Muslim firm where praying 5 timesa day is allowed?

Paul Markham 01-29-2019 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by eric_wahlberg (Post 22406138)
If Muslims continues with this protest, nobody in US will give them jobs.

Plus, trump will be back again with thumping majority.

Good point.

pimpmaster9000 01-29-2019 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22406156)
Why don't the Muslim workers work for a Muslim firm where praying 5 timesa day is allowed?

religious freedom...practice what you preach :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

aimike 01-29-2019 04:38 AM

Pedophilia is permitted in the Qur'an, was practiced by Prophet Muhammad and his companions, and some Muslims today continue to commit the crime, following their prophet's example.

Mr Pheer 01-29-2019 04:39 AM

Paid time off for prayer 5 times a day, everyday, is beyond reasonable. You can have your freedom of religion but employers only have to allow what is reasonable in the workplace.

They can pray 5 times when it's not their shift.

aimike 01-29-2019 04:46 AM

This isn't the Middle East. If they want to pray 5 times a day during work then let them go back home.

This is how Islam works. The only goal of Islam is to spread and take over like a disease.

I don't go to live in the Middle East and then start yelling for them to change their ways to please me.

BaldBastard 01-29-2019 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 22406168)
Paid time off for prayer 5 times a day, everyday, is beyond reasonable. You can have your freedom of religion but employers only have to allow what is reasonable in the workplace.

They can pray 5 times when it's not their shift.

If you employ 60% Muslims ( about 2000) , then you sort of know the routine before you go employing another one...

And with the work, that warehouse was already more productive than most, Amazon themselves said they had one of the fastest packing times. But of course they like to push it to the limit.. and raised the packing quota more than 50% in the past year.

meanwhile staff are getting the same pay.. So 100 of the 3000 staff had a protest strike about the conditions... Which should be of no fucking surprise to anyone.. except for Ruskis and the OP of the thread. Do that in any factory in the western world and 2.8% of the workforce will bitch like hell and most likely protest.

I'd guess a another 100 are whinging because they're smokers

The only reason this makes the news is because its fitting the Right wing agenda.

aimike 01-29-2019 04:52 AM

America needs a good Civil War again to remove all the trash. Reboot.

https://www.heartland.org/news-opini...ther-civil-war


Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through elections because they don't even agree that elections are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it's not the first time they've done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There's a pattern here.

What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don't accept the results of any election that they don't win. It means they don't believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections. That's a civil war. There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government. This isn't dissent. It's not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don't win, what you want is a dictatorship. Your very own dictatorship.

pimpmaster9000 01-29-2019 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by aimike (Post 22406166)
Pedophilia is permitted in the Qur'an, was practiced by Prophet Muhammad and his companions, and some Muslims today continue to commit the crime, following their prophet's example.

so does the bible...some westerners still practice it today, it is called the catholic church :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bladewire 01-29-2019 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22406156)
Why don't the Muslim workers work for a Muslim firm where praying 5 timesa day is allowed?

Yet again you show complete ignorance of American laws and American culture :2 cents:

mrmarcman 01-29-2019 05:32 AM

How sweet...

OneHungLo 01-29-2019 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22406176)
If you employ 60% Muslims ( about 2000) , then you sort of know the routine before you go employing another one..

So what are you saying? muslims are different than Americans? They're supposed to be AMERICANS. What difference does it make if you hire muslims or Jews or Christians? If you're in America you follow our customs.


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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22406176)
The only reason this makes the news is because its fitting the Right wing agenda.

The story originated on the far-left liberal rag, Vox.com

huey 01-29-2019 07:06 AM

Capitalism will correct this.

Bladewire 01-29-2019 08:10 AM

America = "freedom of religion"

Religion sucks but freedom of religion means freedom of religion

Amazon is free to fire all the employees that walked off the job

BaldBastard 01-29-2019 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22406238)
So what are you saying? muslims are different than Americans? They're supposed to be AMERICANS. What difference does it make if you hire muslims or Jews or Christians? If you're in America you follow our customs.
The story originated on the far-left liberal rag, Vox.com


first published NYT

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/20/t...minnesota.html

It's not a story of racism like you and your right wing buddies have spun it..

Its a story of corporate greed at the expense of its workers and how labour rights have been stripped away from.. Americans.

Amazon knew their cultural requests before employing them it was a condition of employment, yet despite the prayer breaks the Somali were still able to meet company targets, actually surpassing them! hence why Amazon employed more than 2000 of them at that one warehouse... Hard fast workers.

Because of that Amazon increased the targets by 50%, and 100 of 3000 workers decided to protest ... 100.

But its not just Minnesota, Amazon and Amazons work requirements are facing criticism all over America and around the world where they are located.

ph2001 01-29-2019 08:22 AM

Democracy and tolerance... it will always finish badly :upsidedow

I prefer an intolerent country with my values than a country which allows everything and anything (even the worst).

Muslim migrants should be sent in muslim countries.
Islam and muslims should be kicked out of western countries.

France is becoming a shithole because of them, dont let USA become the same.

OneHungLo 01-29-2019 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ph2001 (Post 22406302)
Democracy and tolerance... it will always finish badly :upsidedow

I prefer an intolerent country with my values than a country which allows everything and anything (even the worst).

Muslim migrants should be sent in muslim countries.
Islam and muslims should be kicked out of western countries.

France is becoming a shithole because of them, dont let USA become the same.

At this point it's just common sense to send them packing. We won't see the real effects till about 100-200 years from now when Europe has been turned into a middle eastern hellhole.

Like they say, western civilization may have all the clocks, but they have all the time. If you're dumb enough to let them into your country you deserve it.

OneHungLo 01-29-2019 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22406301)
first published NYT

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/20/t...minnesota.html

It's not a story of racism like you and your right wing buddies have spun it..

Its a story of corporate greed at the expense of its workers and how labour rights have been stripped away from.. Americans.

Amazon knew their cultural requests before employing them it was a condition of employment, yet despite the prayer breaks the Somali were still able to meet company targets, actually surpassing them! hence why Amazon employed more than 2000 of them at that one warehouse... Hard fast workers.

Because of that Amazon increased the targets by 50%, and 100 of 3000 workers decided to protest ... 100.

But its not just Minnesota, Amazon and Amazons work requirements are facing criticism all over America and around the world where they are located.

Oh no.. poor muslim immigrants have to work hard. You don't like it, quit. Can you imagine French, Polish, Portuguese, Irish, Dutch immigrants coming to the USA in the late 19th century and complaining about having to work hard?

They can take their mud-pie eating asses back to Somalia.

BaldBastard 01-29-2019 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22406311)
Oh no.. poor muslim immigrants have to work hard. You don't like it, quit. Can you imagine French, Polish, Portuguese, Irish, Dutch immigrants coming to the USA in the late 19th century and complaining about having to work hard?

They can take their mud-pie eating asses back to Somalia.

Considering in 1937 there were 4,740 strikes in the United States, I don't think they did much else actually ;)

King Mark 01-29-2019 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22406308)
At this point it's just common sense to send them packing. We won't see the real effects till about 100-200 years from now when Europe has been turned into a middle eastern hellhole.

Like they say, western civilization may have all the clocks, but they have all the time. If you're dumb enough to let them into your country you deserve it.

Islam has been in America since 1528. That's 500 years so far bro. Fought on the american side of the American revolution. Morocco (Muslims) were the first to recognize America as an independent nation. Over 50% of American Muslims are native born, y'all brought islam to the land of religious freedom with no return policy. Fastest growing religion in America now.

Y'all scared, lulz.

Look at my avatar, we coming for you.

OneHungLo 01-29-2019 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22406323)
Considering in 1937 there were 4,740 strikes in the United States, I don't think they did much else actually ;)

Those strikes were in the great depression and many were because workers were getting their hours CUT! Not because they were working too hard.

OneHungLo 01-29-2019 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22406324)
Islam has been in America since 1528. That's 500 years so far bro. Fought on the american side of the American revolution. Morocco (Muslims) were the first to recognize America as an independent nation. Over 50% of American Muslims are native born, y'all brought islam to the land of religious freedom with no return policy. Fastest growing religion in America now.

Y'all scared, lulz.

Look at my avatar, we coming for you.

Ya sure. Tell us about Thomas Jefferson's quran. Now I know you'll run to google and read the washington's compost article but the truth is in the comments.

Quote:

Hmmmn...Mssr. Rosenberg is conveniently leaving the elephant-in-the-room "complications" out here. He doesn't bother going into why POTUS 3 purchased his Koran in the 1st place. American shipping in the Mediterranean was plagued by pirates of the Maghreb. The piracy was an official policy of the Ottoman provinces of North Africa. Jefferson found this out from Tripoli's ambassador directly in 1785. The policy was based on the Koran itself as Hitchen's noted: "one cannot get around what Jefferson heard when he went with John Adams to wait upon Tripoli’s ambassador to London in March 1785. When they inquired by what right the Barbary states preyed upon American shipping, enslaving both crews and passengers, America’s two foremost envoys were informed that “it was written in the Koran, that all Nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon whoever they could find and to make Slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”

Jefferson, astonished, bought the book to be certain this theocratic lunacy wasn't the ambassador's fantasy. Hence, the salient legacy of TJ's copy of the "holy" Koran acquistion was to verify the books endorsement, in fact encouragement, of perpetual violence and oppression unto the infidel. THIS is the story. The WP's avoidance of it, through either ignorance or preference, abets Trumpian ravings about fake news. Rosenberg completely ignores the very reason for the book's existence as a Jeffersonian artifact: to convince himself beyond doubt that Islam's tenets were an existential threat to free speech, freedom of conscience, freedom of commerce and freedom period. Those facts might be down the memory hole at the WP but aren't quite erased elsewhere yet...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...=.7c52f2f4c5f4
Islam was NEVER a friend of the US. The damn Marines was formed to attack them.

King Mark 01-29-2019 09:24 AM

"we ain't friends tho, I just like the chain bro"

https://thehill.com/sites/default/fi...?itok=We5WonCe

"Says trump, as he signs to Hijabi Records"

celandina 01-29-2019 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 2240608)

Maybe go back to bashing the Amish...

A ish do not work at Amazon. Assimilate or GTFO

celandina 01-29-2019 09:34 AM

You wear this in most Muslim countries you will get stoned..

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/24/52...7383210c0d.jpg

How about some reciprocity wearing this in the West?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...0px-Shalim.JPG

King Mark 01-29-2019 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22406354)
You wear this in most Muslim countries you will get stoned.

Assimilate or gtfo?

Paul Markham 01-29-2019 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by aimike (Post 22406166)
Pedophilia is permitted in the Qur'an, was practiced by Prophet Muhammad and his companions, and some Muslims today continue to commit the crime, following their prophet's example.

In the UK Muslim men still think it's fine to groom young girls for sex. https://www.google.com/search?source.... k6V-6i9aSu8

Pretty sure it happens elsewhere. https://www.google.com/search?ei=SoF...iz.f1TjFwRvGHQ

SilentKnight 01-29-2019 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22406123)
yes it is really inconsiderate of them to run from all the countries the USA de-stabilizes and bombs the shit out of...how rude of them to demand anything from total invaders USA that totally mind their own business and never tell anybody how to live :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

oh the gall! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

What country did Amazon.com bomb again?

2MuchMark 01-29-2019 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22406354)



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