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OneHungLo 01-30-2019 01:29 PM

BAD news for Dems & Fake News: Where it counts Donald Trump is stronger than 2016.
 
In NBC/WSJ Data, President Trump Has Solid Standing in Key Trump Counties
Written by Dave Wilson

Starting in 2017, the NBC/WSJ poll has tracked two types of key Trump Counties in competitive states: Trump Surge and Trump Flip. The Trump Surge counties are those where Trump outperformed Mitt Romney’s 2012 net vote percentage by 20% or more. And, the Trump Flip counties are the counties that flipped from voting for Barack Obama is 2012 to Donald Trump in 2016.

By using merged data from all registered voter interviews from the NBC/WSJ poll (N=9,180 total interviews in 2018), it allows us to look at these key counties. After controlling for demographic differences between years, Trump has maintained and solidified his position in both of these county types.

In the Surge Counties – where Trump ran up large margins in the 2016 election – the President’s approval has passed the 60% mark, with an approval rating of 62% approve-31% approve. This is an improvement over his 58%-33% rating in the 2017 data.


And in the Flip Counties, Trump’s approval stands at 47% approve-51% disapprove, modestly up from 45%-50% in 2017 NBC/WSJ data. At the same time, registered voters’ feelings towards the President remain unchanged at 39% positive in 2018 compared to 40% positive in 2017. (Trump was elected with a 31% positive-57% negative image in these counties that he flipped in 2016 – this is a marked improvement over his standing then.)


At the same time, the Republican Party’s image in these Flip Counties has improved from 32% positive-47% negative in 2017 to 34% positive-40% negative in 2018. This paired with the Democratic Party being slightly less positive in these key Flip Counties at 33% positive-42% negative, helps show that these counties will remain competitive and could still lean GOP lean in 2020.

With President Trump improving over 2017 in the Surge Counties where he needs to run up his vote margins, he does not need to win every single Flip County in 2020. And, given that his approval in these Flip Counties is stronger than his national job approval (44% approve-53% disapprove in the merged NBC/WSJ 2018 data), it is important to remember that the 2020 election will be decided in these counties and not the parts of the country steadfastly against President Trump.

https://pos.org/in-nbc-wsj-data-pres...rump-counties/

Bladewire 01-30-2019 01:34 PM

Fake news from an alt-right hate fake nic troll

OneHungLo 01-30-2019 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22407328)
Fake news from an alt-right hate fake nic troll

Wrong. This is real news and you need to read it and accept it.

Acepimp 01-30-2019 06:55 PM

Also Nanny Pelosi's approval rating dropped 7 points during the shutdown, while Trump's stayed the same. His actually went up among Latino voters :thumbsup

astronaut x 01-30-2019 07:13 PM

Ah yes polls....

https://www.essence.com/wp-content/u...ry-clinton.jpg

aimike 01-31-2019 02:58 AM

the democrats are trying to remove the electoral college.. Because they cant win with it being there..

RedFred 01-31-2019 06:43 AM

Trump cultists need all the red meat they can get these days, their hate movement is on life support....


More than half of Utah voters say they won’t vote to re-elect President Trump in 2020


Doesn't get any redder than Utah.

J. Falcon 01-31-2019 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22407581)
Also Nanny Pelosi's approval rating dropped 7 points during the shutdown, while Trump's stayed the same. His actually went up among Latino voters :thumbsup

Trump's polls stayed the same during the shutdown? Now I know you're completely fucking clueless, or just a flat out liar.

2MuchMark 01-31-2019 07:59 AM

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ilnjscb 01-31-2019 03:54 PM

While the data you site is from a real poll, please remember that voter engagement is what wins elections. Don't you think that if Trump was genuinely more popular, that 40 seats in the House wouldn't have flipped?

Centurion 01-31-2019 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22407849)
Trump cultists need all the red meat they can get these days, their hate movement is on life support....


More than half of Utah voters say they won’t vote to re-elect President Trump in 2020


Doesn't get any redder than Utah.


Agreed. It is amazing how someone will pull ANYTHING off the internet to support their political belief. I'm talking about little known or very insignificant sites.

Bladewire 01-31-2019 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22408103)
While the data you site is from a real poll, please remember that voter engagement is what wins elections. Don't you think that if Trump was genuinely more popular, that 40 seats in the House wouldn't have flipped?

Trump supporters say that was due to voter fraud.

baddog 01-31-2019 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aimike (Post 22407778)
the democrats are trying to remove the electoral college.. Because they cant win with it being there..

What is amusing is that Dems in states that need the EC to be relevant are calling for its demise.

King Mark 01-31-2019 04:19 PM

We'll see in 2020. The only people I know irl who still support trump are old Jessie Ventura weirdos. Everybody else flipped and will vote for anything but trump.

kane 01-31-2019 04:33 PM

Since apparently polls now matter to Republicans, here is one done by Greenberg that shows Trump has lost the support of everyone but white working class men. For this poll they asked people if the election were held today would they vote for Trump, a generic Democrat or a third party. Their results found 51% would vote Democrat, 41% would vote Trump and 8% would get "other." The graph shows the breakdown.

https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp20...berg_Jan30.jpg

kane 01-31-2019 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aimike (Post 22407778)
the democrats are trying to remove the electoral college.. Because they cant win with it being there..

The Republicans can't win without it.

RedFred 01-31-2019 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22408137)
Since apparently polls now matter to Republicans, here is one done by Greenberg that shows Trump has lost the support of everyone but white working class men. For this poll they asked people if the election were held today would they vote for Trump, a generic Democrat or a third party. Their results found 51% would vote Democrat, 41% would vote Trump and 8% would get "other." The graph shows the breakdown.

https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp20...berg_Jan30.jpg

Hold on, that can't be right. According to Acepimp and Onehunglo Trumps approval rating with African Americans is at 40%. :1orglaugh

pimpmaster9000 01-31-2019 04:41 PM

They want to murder babies!

Bladewire 01-31-2019 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22408139)
The Republicans can't win without it.

BOOM! :1orglaugh:thumbsup

ilnjscb 01-31-2019 06:52 PM

I don't see how even Trump can prevail against this

Michael Bloomberg’s Secret Plans to Take Down Trump

OneHungLo 01-31-2019 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22408196)
I don't see how even Trump can prevail against this

Michael Bloomberg’s Secret Plans to Take Down Trump

Another old, WHITE, male, privileged, billionaire? lol

Good luck with that lol

crockett 01-31-2019 08:02 PM

onehunglow aka Matt26z is still nutter crazy. He's obviously come unhinged "again" with his frantic posting.

ilnjscb 01-31-2019 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22408223)
Another old, WHITE, male, privileged, billionaire? lol

Good luck with that lol

Yes, he is all that, which is why he won't run. But he is spending 100m to get rid of Trump. Setting whether you agree with him aside, Trump obviously inspires the kind of emotion that makes people want to remove him.

2MuchMark 01-31-2019 08:30 PM


directfiesta 01-31-2019 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22408223)
Another old, WHITE, male, privileged, billionaire? lol

Good luck with that lol

OMG ..... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Does he reads himself back ????

Mr Pheer 01-31-2019 08:50 PM

Remember when Hillary was leading the polls in everything, and then she lost the election?

That was funny.

thommy 01-31-2019 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22408122)
We'll see in 2020. The only people I know irl who still support trump are old Jessie Ventura weirdos. Everybody else flipped and will vote for anything but trump.

538 was the ONLY poll that gave him a higher approval as disapproval rating than any other poll in the start.

for the dreamers here the reality


rasmussen do the polling in the morning with phonecalls on landlines.
so they reach older conservative people and have shown the best numbers
for trump in the 2 years.

here are rasummen results

as you see there not even the tax cut had a longterm effect.

so no - he will not survive the next elections even when the nobrainers here will not even believe that after he lost.
i am already looking forward to read the conspiracy theories of all theose asspimps and oneiqlows. it will be amusing.

_Richard_ 02-01-2019 07:16 AM

https://i.imgur.com/evaNMNl.gif

Phoenix 02-01-2019 07:20 AM

Don't worry the Dems have their best minds working on it

ruff 02-01-2019 07:33 AM

Lots of tRump cock loving here. Sad.

ilnjscb 02-01-2019 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22408122)
We'll see in 2020. The only people I know irl who still support trump are old Jessie Ventura weirdos. Everybody else flipped and will vote for anything but trump.

So you're on here bragging that you don't know anybody?

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22408240)
538 was the ONLY poll that gave him a higher approval as disapproval rating than any other poll in the start.

for the dreamers here the reality


rasmussen do the polling in the morning with phonecalls on landlines.
so they reach older conservative people and have shown the best numbers
for trump in the 2 years.

here are rasummen results

as you see there not even the tax cut had a longterm effect.

so no - he will not survive the next elections even when the nobrainers here will not even believe that after he lost.
i am already looking forward to read the conspiracy theories of all theose asspimps and oneiqlows. it will be amusing.

This is pretty much exactly correct. Rasmussen is a CONSERVATIVE polling firm. They routinely misjudge about 4% positive for conservative causes, though not always. Even disregarding that, they have Trump down 15 points now. This could change of course but they had him down 7 points when the democrats won the midterms by 7& of the popular vote.

It isn't scientific but it is reasonable to assume that Trump would lose by 13%. Further, a poll where he and most democrat front runners go head to head he is at 40-53%.

None of this is written in stone, but he is not "winning" right now.

Acepimp 02-01-2019 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22407870)
Trump's polls stayed the same during the shutdown? Now I know you're completely fucking clueless, or just a flat out liar.

Hello J. Falcon. No offense but you don't seem very good at staying informed.

Pelosi’s approval rating went down more than Trump’s during shutdown, but guess who buried that news?

A new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll revealed that Pelosi’s approval rating dropped 6 points while the president experienced ratings that had changed little since November.

New Poll: President Trump's Approval Rating Among Latinos Skyrockets...During Wall Debate?

President Trump's approval rating has skyrocketed among Latinos during the government shutdown over the border wall.

According to a new NPR/PBS News Hour/Marist Poll, his approval among the demographic has improved by 20 points since December.

...a Rasmussen Poll also showed that 40 percent of Americans actually blamed congressional Democrats for the shutdown.

Busty2 02-01-2019 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22407870)
Trump's polls stayed the same during the shutdown? Now I know you're completely fucking clueless, or just a flat out liar.

:thumbsup:thumbsup


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