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GAMEFINEST 01-30-2019 09:48 PM

Is Trump moving toward war in Venezuela?
 
I have a feeling he might stir shit up for the hell of it.


MAGA!

Scott McD 01-31-2019 01:06 AM

Trump avoids wars.

Clinton's, Bush's etc create wars...

thommy 01-31-2019 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST (Post 22407674)
I have a feeling he might stir shit up for the hell of it.


MAGA!

nope - he is just sharing this market with putin.
the russians get the gold and trump sells the weapons that they can kill each other.

pimpmaster9000 01-31-2019 02:27 AM

the USA can not afford peace...its #1 spending is war...its #1 export is war...its #1 employer is war...you can not make an entire industry redundant with silly things like peace...

seeandsee 01-31-2019 05:28 AM

MAGA dont need wars only walls

RedFred 01-31-2019 06:31 AM

Trump has been looking for a country to invade since he got in there and it looks like they are at least entertaining the idea.


John Bolton's notes on '5,000 troops to Colombia' spark speculation about military intervention in Venezuela

femdomdestiny 01-31-2019 06:33 AM

USA must start a new war. Otherwise, the economy would be in serious trouble. As always, preparation is done with economic sanctions just as in every other case of invasion and looting that is done directly or indirectly by local scumbags (freedom fighters, poor repressed people, democratic forces and other crap tons of people are still ready to swallow) supported by USA.

Venezuela is not only about the oil. It is about the market, geo position and natural resources. This is a beautiful country rich with forests, sea access, land, minerals, etc.

Attacking Venezuela and placing puppet regime on power and gaining access to oil would make global oil price change, oil prices could go down what will affect Russians. Basically, every single move there is already seen so many times.

When the USA can't attack someone or conflict would be too serious, it will try to make people living here to be mad and frustrated by a ruined economy.

Majority of people in every country are dumb and stupid so it is easy to manipulate them. Most of them believe in promises. GFY is a perfect example of that, how many nicks here still believe that Asad is a bad guy, that Ghadafi was a bad guy or that Maduro is a new villain. And it works every single time it doesn't matter how stupid or unrealistic it is.

Venezuelan people are lazy, that's true. Reason for that is too complicated to explain but at the end, it is their right. People there were under Spanish colonial rule for too long. As every ruler and colonial power, they wanted and did everything to keep them uneducated and dependent. The same Spain that is now supporting mess together with the USA.

Majority of the people is still uneducated and the basic move to eliminate poverty is education, social security and free healthcare. Just what Chavez was doing for years when cancer stopped his efforts (otherwise, they would stay stuck with millions of violent and clueless people, something similar to the black population in USA).

Exhausted by economic sanctions placed by USA, all this is already seen scenario. Make people mad, blame it on one person (Maduro) then promise better times as soon as he is out of power and a new government is established. Of course, the new government is organized and financed by USA. If they manage to get on power, they will have to pay a debt to those who helped them get there.

It failed in Syria because of Russians but the price was high. Hopefully, it won't be repeated in Venezuela.

Rochard 01-31-2019 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 22407741)
Trump avoids wars.

Clinton's, Bush's etc create wars...

Which war did the Clinton's create? Both Iraq and Afghanistan happened under Bush's.

pimpmaster9000 01-31-2019 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 22407845)
USA must start a new war. Otherwise, the economy would be in serious trouble. As always, preparation is done with economic sanctions just as in every other case of invasion and looting that is done directly or indirectly by local scumbags (freedom fighters, poor repressed people, democratic forces and other crap tons of people are still ready to swallow) supported by USA.

Venezuela is not only about the oil. It is about the market, geo position and natural resources. This is a beautiful country rich with forests, sea access, land, minerals, etc.

Attacking Venezuela and placing puppet regime on power and gaining access to oil would make global oil price change, oil prices could go down what will affect Russians. Basically, every single move there is already seen so many times.

When the USA can't attack someone or conflict would be too serious, it will try to make people living here to be mad and frustrated by a ruined economy.

Majority of people in every country are dumb and stupid so it is easy to manipulate them. Most of them believe in promises. GFY is a perfect example of that, how many nicks here still believe that Asad is a bad guy, that Ghadafi was a bad guy or that Maduro is a new villain. And it works every single time it doesn't matter how stupid or unrealistic it is.

Venezuelan people are lazy, that's true. Reason for that is too complicated to explain but at the end, it is their right. People there were under Spanish colonial rule for too long. As every ruler and colonial power, they wanted and did everything to keep them uneducated and dependent. The same Spain that is now supporting mess together with the USA.

Majority of the people is still uneducated and the basic move to eliminate poverty is education, social security and free healthcare. Just what Chavez was doing for years when cancer stopped his efforts (otherwise, they would stay stuck with millions of violent and clueless people, something similar to the black population in USA).

Exhausted by economic sanctions placed by USA, all this is already seen scenario. Make people mad, blame it on one person (Maduro) then promise better times as soon as he is out of power and a new government is established. Of course, the new government is organized and financed by USA. If they manage to get on power, they will have to pay a debt to those who helped them get there.

It failed in Syria because of Russians but the price was high. Hopefully, it won't be repeated in Venezuela.


and later they destroy the evidence of their own tampering in war crimes tribunals...I bet venezuela will have its on "markale" soon...

BRUKA U TRIBUNALU: Hag uni?tio klju?ni dokaz za "Markale" | Dosije | Novosti.rs

femdomdestiny 01-31-2019 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22407851)
and later they destroy the evidence of their own tampering in war crimes tribunals...I bet venezuela will have its on "markale" soon...

BRUKA U TRIBUNALU: Hag uni?tio klju?ni dokaz za "Markale" | Dosije | Novosti.rs

yep, they will. Markale, Racak, Srebrenica, WMD... whatever. Maybe this time they won't make it considering obvious Russian involvement. I can't reach my friend living there for 10 years or more, would like to hear info from the field.

femdomdestiny 01-31-2019 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22407850)
Which war did the Clinton's create? Both Iraq and Afghanistan happened under Bush's.

Kosovo, Bosnia...?

NewNick 01-31-2019 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 22407856)
Kosovo, Bosnia...?

Think you will find that is utter nonsense.

pimpmaster9000 01-31-2019 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 22407859)
Think you will find that is utter nonsense.

monika lewinski scandal start jan 1998
kosovo war starts march 1998

honest honest bill clinton would not lie...US presidents are soooooooooo honest...go make up some WMD claims now :thumbsup

femdomdestiny 01-31-2019 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 22407859)
Think you will find that is utter nonsense.

which part? Clinton wasn't the president or this is not real? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Bondsteel

PR_Glen 01-31-2019 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 22407741)
Trump avoids wars.

Clinton's, Bush's etc create wars...

riiight. you keep telling yourself that


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