U.S. border officers make largest-ever fentanyl bust: 254 pounds hidden under cucumbers
 

Build.
That.
Motherfucking.
Wall.

They found the drugs at a port of entry. This just completely verifies that we don't need a wall. The majority of the criminal activity are at ports of entry.

Yeah that settles it, rochard.

You can't argue with Stupid.

last lines from your own post .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Who was talking about stupid ????? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Nominated for the DUMBEST STATEMENT ON GFY 2019

(you did try to read the article you posted right? where it said that the drugs were found in a truck? crossing at a border crossing? Or are you, like your avatar, not able to read more than 240 characters?)

See sig.

Excuse me...
How is a wall going to stop a shipment of cucumbers hiding drugs ?

Since we in the US get a nearing majority of our produce from Mexico now...
and we have this new NAFTA that insures this trade will allow workers who shit in the fields and get paid even less get past the wall free card and give us all e coli and other bacterial disorders while we squeeze more money from the budget of the FDA so they are unable to catch that bad produce.

Waste mexico's money not mine like Trump said !

I am not against giving money for a wall or any structure that 'the border patrol' was asking for 2 or more years ago. But not for any made-up cause that serves nobody except for political BS.

Funny. If there was a wall all the way across and no ports through, at a cost of probably 450B+, your new problem would be the shoreline and boating and someone to police the wall for tunnels and jumpers. So, it solves nothing. A wall with nobody watching it is just a steep hill.

If you don't want them up here, fine those that would hire them.
Problem here is, republicans made a legal method for them to be here. Lobbied by the ag co's in the south.

Each person is a 1099-s independent contractor. They take out only for SSI.
Min wage has no bearing on contract wages. It's all legal. That is why they scream amnesty when it looks like they have worked out a comprehensive imigration policy. Republicans want the status quo. If they are citizens, they can't get away with cheap wages and poor treatment.
There are no checks to see if they go home after their permit expires in 2 years.

So if anyone is actually serious about this problem, it's quite easy to see where to start.

OH OK GUYS, NO ONE IS BRINGING DRUGS OR COMING ACROSS ANY OF THE WIDE OPEN PARTS OF THE BORDER!!! directfiesta SAID SO!!

You are implying building a wall is going to protect us. As we have been explaining to you, the majority of the drugs are not coming over in areas where you can build a wall. The drugs and illegals are coming through ports of entry.

You can build all of the walls and patrol them, and it will be a waste of time, effort, and money. Put the money where the problem is.

i just saw on either cbs or abc they did a special and there was one part of the border where they caught something like 57,000 illegals crossing over. Most of these border patrol agents want the wall.


And it's just not drugs, it's hordes of criminal illegals coming over popping out anchor babies and draining our system dry.

Sometimes I am left with the idea that some of these guys just want someone to pay attention to them. Even if they know what they say is wrong.

We are so much into debt..

Obviously walls don't work. That's why walls have never been used in history to protect anything. Walls simply don't exist and never have and shouldn't just be willed into existence by that magical orange wizard for no reason at all.

more caravans coming.... making Trumps job easier... creating an actual state of emergency. clearly, they're not sending their best.

funny by the way watching Dems flip out completely because a President actually cares about the country and is actually doing what he was elected to do and can't be bought and isn't in it for popularity.

God forbid the illegal Democratic voter pipeline slows down.

This is not true at all. It's a matter of cost vs effectiveness. A wall around someone's house might cost $40k and would be very effective because wants to get in so bad that they are willing to tunnel under it. However, spending a trillion dollars on a wall where people will in fact tunnel under it wouldn't be effective or cost efficient at all.

We have walls, fences, and other barriers where people are most likely to cross.

Ugh, No they don't. I talk to one every few days. A border patrol agent that is.

If i were talking to a wall, that would be you.

Obviously, walls do work when you use them as a intended deteriant from a overwhelming force and you properly MAN THE WALL.

Problem here is, there is no overwhelming force and if you MAN THE AREA, you don't need the wall.

Otherwise the wall is a mere obstacle without being backed-up by MANPOWER.
A wall only slows your entry.

Do you think the Berlin wall would have worked without men with guns willing to shoot to kill ?
Well they had it then and it still did not work so well.
Same goes for the walls in Israel. How many would cross without men with guns ?

How many men to cover 1800 miles of border ? That's as many people as every state national guard +++. If you have them, you still don't need the wall. But they are much more effective.

I can't see the value in the wall. Show me !

Enough to kill nearly 1/5th the population.. That's carazy shit right der.. Dude is doing SERIOUS time. They're building a jail on top of his ass.. Or he's the dead one.

If there is a wall 80% of immigrants would be forced to use points of entry. The other 20% the bad guys would be tunneling and trying to scale the wall. The border security could focus on that 20%
Of course they could not stop all illegals and drug smugglers but they most likely would get a decent handle on it.

Redhats want to build a wall to stop brown Central and South American asylum seekers from filling the void the incel mass shooting suicide squad is leaving in America.

Has nothing to do with drugs, crimes, jobs or even Mexicans. They just don't know it and/or deny it because... Redhats.

JFI

80% of immigrants are USING a port of entry already !

They already can't handle the ports of entry

https://azcapitoltimes.com/files/201...border-620.png

90% of the drugs comes right through those along with the immigrants. There's no possible way to find it all. Too many people. Too much traffic.

Imagine if the magic maga mega ultra wall goes up... The traffic to the points of entry go up. Hence making the impossible even more impossible.

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that is their biggest problem to fight for something without knowing the facts.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/resiz...FBOC7JXHRY.png

in fiscal year 2016, the latest year for which complete data is available, there were 170,000 successful illegal border crossings occurring outside of authorized ports of entry.

let´s assume that around 20% of them were smuggelt in cars or via ship we are talking about aproximately 130.000 per year (of wich most a caught later)

let´s say a wall would prevent the half of them crossing the south border that does not mean that they don´t come - but they change the way to come in.

so maybe the wall can prevent again 30% of this 130.000 - what are roughly 40.000

the costs of the wall plus yearly maintaining 5 billion per year over the next 10 years
5 billion ./. 40.000 = $ 125.000 per single person that will POSSIBLY not enter THERE.

somehow it is not astonishing that most of these wall friends do not achieve anything in business simply because they have not understood the cost/benefit calculation

As it is right now 80% of illegal immigrants and illegal drugs are coming through the ports of entry. The 20% goes around the ports of entry. We put walls and other barriers up where they tend to cross. In other areas, we use other methods. Putting up walls in other areas wouldn't change anything; It only would cost us more to build the walls, more to maintain them, and more to patrol.

We need border security where the problem is - the ports of entry where the drugs comes through - and not in places where there is no illegal activity.

Truth be known, the latest method in volume is using drones to deliver them across the border. Virtually undetectable at the correct altitude. And no, I'm not speaking of the multi-rotor helicopter variety because the range is to short. These are virtually scaled down Cessna's under radio control, all electric and in some cases, fully autonomous and almost unstoppable using jamming techniques.
Can travel more than 10 miles one way.

Everyone should know if you stop one method, it's not the only method and it is a never ending battle where mostly what you do is spend lots of money chasing a small percentage of drug traffic. This is not the way to fight this battle.
Think about it some.... it's your tax dollars.

A Trillion dollars?? Ridiculous it's 20-30 billion. And they do work:

https://i.imgur.com/sYYI4Sk.jpg

People won't be tunneling under it when it's buried 6 feet in the ground.


90% of border patrol agents say we need a wall or fence.

Do you have any sources to back up your claim that "80% of illegals come through ports of entry?"

Sure, some drugs go through non-existent fences; this was a port of entry. You fuck up your own arguments.

I am sorry, did you not notice who you are talking to? He makes up fucking numbers; just like you do.

i just ask myself why you do not research facts BEFORE you fight here for a stupid idea and make it your own.

the real brainwashed on you guys is that you don´t check the bullshit trump tells you because you only use the brainwash sources and you are too lazy to do a fact check or simply use the opposite sources too to find out if there are other facts as the "alternative facts" trump tells you since he run for president.

here is an article that includes links to official stats from homeland security

it won´t help anyway because you will deny it before reading it what identifies you as the brainwashed you are.

^^^ Dumb Fuck doesn't even grasp that the drugs were caught at a boarder crossing. Jesus Red Hats are some stupid mother fuckers.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Meanwhile:

I guess all of the drug smugglers only cross at the border crossings?

Because smuggling drugs anywhere else would be illegal.

We need a northern border wall as well, to keep the Snow Mexicans out.

He's so fucking stupid that he can't even spell border; and will blame it on spellcheck.

if I was a professional drug smuggler I would totally be foiled by a wall...moving the drugs 1000s of miles to the wall and then I would be like "nooooooooooooooo a wall!" then I would remember that I am not a dumb ass trump supporter and I would be like "phew! thank god the cartel has ladders!"

what a bunch of fucking dumbasses trump supporters are :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


https://pics.me.me/how-do-mexicans-f...t-13227128.png

Sheesh :1orglaugh

Yes... the bulk of drugs entering this country come across the boarder crossing hidden in commercial shipments.


Gone are the days of flying aces dropping bags of coke just off shore and those submarines dont work anymore either because they are easily found by sonar.

You think the wall is only about drugs? You think people are going to carry little babies and old ladies over 30 ft high walls covering in razor wire? Think they'll just carry a 3 story ladder and have 70 yr old granny go up with Juan scaling this 30ft high wall with his 6month old under his arm, crawling over barbed wire 30 ft in the air.

Ever been up on 3 story roof? It's high, and it's certain death if you're an infant or elderly.

Trust me, it will keep people out. It won't keep them all out but it will keep enough out to pay for itself many times over.

Trust you?

Lol, this topic is about drugs coming across the border and now you trying to flip it to people when you got your ass handed to you...

Talking about "trust me" lol. Bro, when you finally admit what you are and stop trying to deny it and deflect, people might start trusting you.