I guess it will now be ok to declare a national emergency to take guns away
 

Guns have killed far more people in this country than illegals have. I supposed the next national emergency will be to take everyone's guns..


Republicans are the dumbest of the dumb. They are too busy yelling at people to get off their lawn that they routinely walk right into to poles..

What demographic makes up most of the gun homicides?

What demographic walks into polls while yelling at cars the most?

You know the alt right will have their confederate panties in a bunch when the next democratic president does the same thing as Chump!

A national emergency declaring Republicans as traitors is what's needed.

The big problem with that line of thinking is that guns are a constitutional right.

Any attempt at a national emergency to take guns would not only trigger a massive revolt, but also the Supreme Court would immediately strike it down.

Also...there are currently THIRTY "national emergencies" still in use as we speak by former Presidents.
So far that did not even cause a whimper from the media and nobody tried to use a national emergency to take guns.

Presidents have done this dozens of times over the years.

Only with Trump is there an uproar from the Democrat politicians, the media, and of course the low-information crowd.

Not all guns you idiot.

The kind of guns we have now are not the same as the single shot muskets in 1787 ( that's when the Constitution was created )

Kids with machine guns is not a constitutional right. Common sense gun ownership will solve a lot of our problems.

Robbie believes the wall is already halfway built. Next Trump will tell him Hillary is locked up and he'll believe that too.

that's fake as hell

Any attempt by congress to take all guns away from citizens would start a riot. Congress is within it's rights to limit the type of guns allowed by citizens.

Just educating you on the American Constitution and how it is amended. :1orglaugh

I don't think it'll happen, but guns kill more people in America than Mexicans do. So it'll be an easier case. Especially if the good ol boys keep mass shooting and suiciding themselves into minority status.

And? You all know we can change the constitution, right?

Not with an Executive Order.

Sure you can keep "1" single chamber rifle per household. The rest can be outlawed legally. Did you forget already that Trump banned bump stocks? Trump set that precedent by signing a EO to ban a piece of gun. The next guy could sign a EO banning the lower receiver of semi automatic rifles or pistols or mags & clips that hold more than 1 bullet. (Why do you think all the gun nutters were outraged about Trump doing that or did Fox news not tell you about it?)

All you Republicans are too busy yelling at people walking on your lawn that you don't watch where you are walking..

Trump disagrees with your opinion.. he already banned bump stocks..

Thanks Paul.
Pretty sure that you really didn't say much to me there. But okay! :)

This is a discussion of Pres. Trump using a "national emergency" Executive Order (as other Presidents have done dozens of times) to get funding.

Some Democrat politicians have declared (wrongly), that a future Democrat President could use such an Executive Order to take away guns from citizens.

My reply was that it would indeed cause an uprising in this country AND the Supreme Court would immediately rule it unconstitutional.

As I have said COUNTLESS times right here on GFY...
IF the citizens of the United States feel we should be disarmed by the govt., the CONGRESS needs to start the procedure in place in our Constitution to repeal the 2nd Amendment.

They had no hesitation in adding the 16th amendment about a hundred years ago to make it constitutional to take our money via Income Tax (something the Founding Fathers didn't want).
They also had no problems repealing and adding other amendments in the 20th century.

So IF anyone in the United States wants to be disarmed by their govt., it's pretty simple:
Vote for Congressmen and Senators who will repeal the 2nd Amendment.

Most gun deaths are suicides, moron. The opioid crisis is killing far more people. Moron. The left are such authoritarian fascists. How bout you fuck off to North Korea, all of you.

I like to learn stuff and so I went and looked this up

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...ntly-in-effect

it's true, 31 are still in effect.

Though none of them is about something like the wall which Trump didn't get funded even when he had both congress and senate.

And I don't think they are meant for purposes like that either.

Actually none of them - the 9/11 one aside - is even noteworthy for the public. And most people very likely never heard of them.

The topic, the reasoning behind it and the fact that Trump can't even get his own party fully behind it and he has to resort to this, makes it a lot more newsworthy than the other 31.

And can we really call people "low information crowd" when they dont know about

None of those say "I couldn't get my shit funded and so I pretend it's an emergency cause otherwise I look like an idiot to my followers"

Why not just get rid of all military style weapons except for those in the Armed Forces & Police / Swat ?

There is a very big flaw in your argument. Every single one of those other "national emergencies" dealt with actions against other nations or foreign entities. Most often terrorist or rogue entities.. Not a manufactured crisis..


Trump's is the only one that's ever been directed at the domestic United States and to be used to steal people's rightful property. (aka their land as Trump can not build his wall with out taking people's property)

This is what you are arguing in favor of, stealing people's land who do not want to sell it.


Wasn't it also you complaining while Obama was in office that the BLM was taking ranchers land, now you support stealing rancher's land. because it's different now because "Republican" is doing it. I remember you ranting and raving about Obama somehow being at blame because of the BLM/Bundy ordeal. Where a rancher had set multiple fires once almost getting firemen killed, then acting like a terrorist on federally owned land..

Yet now you are ok when Trump wants to steal people's land.. Amazing how you change your convictions by whoever wins an election..

:1orglaugh:thumbsup

You don't know what you're talking about Stefan.

Paul Ryan was the Speaker Of The House. He is the reason that nothing was done.
Hell, he didn't do a lot of anything as Speaker except the tax bill.

Just because a party has both houses of Congress doesn't mean that they can do things...ESPECIALLY when the entire Republican Party hated Trump (remember? Trump called them all "puppets" of the Koch Brothers).

Trump did a hostile take-over of the Republican Party. And I'm glad he did.

And yes...you are VERY low-information on my country. Not your fault. Your being fed bullshit by the mainstream media.

EVERY one of the "national emergency" executive orders by Pres. Obama were done because Congress would NOT act on them.

Remember? (of course you don't)...Pres. Obama said this:
"If Congress won't act...I will" And when Congress wouldn 't pass things he said: "I have a pen, and a phone".

Educate yourself...or better yet, just don't make comments on shit you don't know.

P.S.: The media APPLAUDED Pres. Obama for going usurping Congress to get what he wanted. Weird how now they are attacking Pres. Trump.
But of course you don't see it that way because you are blinded by hate.

Once again Robbie changes his narrative depending on who is president. When Obama was president and the same Republicans (Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell) were in charge of the House & Senate Robbie used to say the reason Obama couldn't get anything done was because he was a bad leader.

Now that Trump is POTUS, suddenly the reason he can't get anything done is because of Republicans in Congress.

Robbie used to claim a good leader could negotiate and get things done even if those running Congress were unwilling. Suddenly now it's not bad leadership, but Paul Ryan & Mitch McConnell who are to blame.

So does this mean Robbie will now change his mind and say it was not Obama's fault but rather Republican in Congress that nothing got done? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


Robbie lives in lala land a fantasy land which he makes up on the fly.. Is Robbie the biggest hypocrite on GFY? I honestly think so.

ok, let's agree I am blinded by hate and you are blinded by your god like emperor Trump, the supreme leader that cannot fail in the eyes of Robbie


man, I miss the times when Obamas tan suit made the Fox headlines

:upsidedow

bingo - but i am sure there is also an explanation for that

That's a pretty stupid comment to make Stefan. I never thought of you as stupid...but that's just stupid.

I did say that. I said the truth...Pres. Obama (as it was widely reported) did not even TRY to reach out to the Congress. He never asked for meetings, no phone calls, nothing.
He was very arrogant about it.
That was a mistake and bad leadership.

Trump HAS reached out over and over. Invited the Democrats to the White House over and over.

But the Democrats have stuck to their tired "resist" mantra and refuse to work with him at all.
THAT is poor leadership by the Democrat politicians.

In fact I will prove that Robbie used to blame Obama for Congress doing nothing..

GFY search sucks ass but I found a post where he blamed Obama for being a poor leader because he couldn't get Congress to do anything..


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Also funny Robbie says we need a leader with a focused vision and follow his vision. That's what Obama did with healthcare and Robbie hasn't stopped complaining about it since. Obama was very upfront about fixing healthcare when he ran the 1st time and yet Robbie claims to have voted for him. Obama got us healthcare and then Robbie couldn't stop complaining about something Obama told him he was gonna do..



Funny how I nailed it... in 2014 while Robbie is still making excuses 5 years later..

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I guess we are at least making some progress with Robbie. It took 5 years, but at least he now understands the reason Congress was gridlocked all that time, was because Republicans were in charge.. At least now the House is actually getting stuff done, but sadly Senate is still gridlocked..

You were right in 2014 well done :thumbsup

In fact, no. You can not do it with an Executive Order.

https://www.aclu.org/blog/immigrants...xecutive-order

However, we can with an Amendment. We've done it before.

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution

BULLSHIT DETECTED.....


McConnell's own staffers said he would pretend to be busy as excuse to not meet with Obama..

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...-busy-to-avoid



https://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/...snubbed-obama/


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ancy/80801866/

https://mic.com/articles/22662/5-way...ted#.w3T9gweFo



You are completely out of touch with reality..


I wanted to actually post the last link to show the many ways Obama tried to work with Republicans in Congress but they rejected it. Maybe Robbie will start to get a grasp on reality and not what he is spoon fed on Fox news..


To President Obama’s critics, he will never bring about the era of bipartisan cooperation that he campaigned on in 2008, but the facts prove otherwise.

The president’s nomination of conservative Republican Chuck Hagel to his cabinet is just another example in a long line of Obama’s attempts to reach across the aisle and work with a recalcitrant Republican minority. Here are a few other gems, as we highlight some of Obama’s most bipartisan gestures of his first term and the Republican response.

1) Keeping Robert Gates as secretary of defense

In January, 2009: Obama is inaugurated and immediately seeks out Republican lawmakers willing to work with his new agenda. He makes it a point to maintain Robert Gates (previously appointed by Republican President George W. Bush) as his Secretary of Defense. Some Republicans on the Hill even whisper that Obama was working with them more than Bush ever did.

Republican response in January, 2009: Rush Limbaugh welcomes the president with a hearty “I hope he fails."

2) Obama meets with pro-choice and pro-life advocates

In May, 2009: Obama begins the first of several sessions meeting with pro-choice advocates and their detractors in order to help design legislation that protects both the lives of women and the unborn.

Republican response in September, 2009: South Carolina Representative Joe Wilson shouts “You lie!” at the president during Obama’s speech to Congress wherein he intended to reach out to Republicans and voice his concerns with our failing healthcare system and his plans to fix it. To make matters worse, fact checkers have disproved Wilson’s claim, saying that the healthcare proposal explicitly does not provide for illegal immigrants.

3) Obama listens to Republicans on health care

In January, 2010: Obama holds a meeting with Republicans in Baltimore, where he allows for a candid question-and-answer session in order to hear directly from the opposition and allow them to express their skepticism. A month later, he speaks with Republicans in what will be dubbed the “Healthcare Summit.” Obama compromised his initial plan for a single-payer system, instead seeking a Republican-promoted individual mandate mirroring the one Mitt Romney created as Governor of Massachusetts in the 1990s.

Republican response in October, 2010: Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell states that the most important objective of the Republican Party is to make Obama a one-term president, not fixing our budget/debt issues, our broken healthcare, education or immigration systems, and certainly not protecting U.S. citizens from terrorist attacks.

4) Obama compromises on 2010 budget deal

In December, 2010: Obama compromises on his previously-stated goal of not prolonging the Bush tax cuts on the wealthy by agreeing to a budget deal. By doing so, Obama provides for the continuation of unemployment benefits to the needy, establishes a payroll tax holiday, renews the inheritance tax, and ensures that the government continues paying its debts.

Republican response by Spring of 2012: Senate Republicans have blocked Obama’s judicial nominees at an unprecedented rate, delaying their being placed on the bench by greater than four times more than Democrats ever did to Bush judicial nominees.

5) Obama compromises on "fiscal cliff"

On January 1st, 2013: Obama once-again compromises on a “fiscal cliff” deal by raising the threshold of the income level for whom taxes would rise from $250,000 to $400,000 for individuals and $450,000 for families and pushing back sequestration of funds allocated to the military. His deal-making resulted in the Federal government receiving even less revenues than Republican Speaker of the House John Boehner had previously offered to allow.

I agree with him using the Emergency take funds to build one of the foundations of his campaign. Just as I agree with a Democrat using the same method to keep one of his basic promises. IMO too many promises made by politicians are forgotten after they get elected.

You are not educated on the intricacies of our government.

Trump can't use this "emergency declaration" to steal money from states to recover from fire destruction, hurricanes and fliods. He's trying and he'll fail, yet again.

Looks like we will have to declare a national emergency.. another mass shooting just happened..

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/act...ois/index.html


What are the odds it's a deranged Trump nutter pissed off at Trump signing the budget..

So if the land is owned by someone who wants to keep it open. Nothing should be done to stop that?

Think about it before you reply.

Maybe you should think about it...

No reason to get rid of them. They cost a fortune and are never used in crimes.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/791689890

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/794791298

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/799913775

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/797909592

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/795273404

Wasn't it just yesterday (or Today) when CNN's Jim Acosta was confronted by "Angel Moms" at the White House. An Angel Mom is a parent who has had a son murdered by an illegal immigrant.

Yet American children are being killed in the own schools, and our government is doing nothing about?

In Texas last week five people were executed, and it barely registered on the news.

Murders committed by illegals is a million times worse than those committed by fellow americans in the eyes of the alt right!

When he was talking about the "Angel Moms" I thought it was a big fuck you to the parents of children killed in mass school shootings

The disconnect there on the right is massive. They actually act like child gun victims are actors and not dead or deserve it. The brain washing is deep on that one.

So.... You think it's a good idea for any political candidate to make a campaign promise, and then use a national emergency to keep his campaign promise, even when absolutely no emergency exists?

So... By your logic... the next political candidate can make a campaign promise - healthcare, gun control, free schooling - and then when they can't get it passed through Congress they can just declare a national emergency and pass it anyhow?

No. That's not how it works. We don't create fake emergencies to keep campaign promises. Ever.

How many murders have been committed by illegal immigrants? According to ICE in 2017 it was 1900 people. Six times that die every year in the United States due to firearms. Seems to me like firearms is the national emergency.

Rochard doesn't understand..

GFY has turned into Trumps Anonymous, with the MSM issuing you your very own "12 step" rule book.

Prisoners.

Right

So now you attack all border land owners as wanting to allow illegals in the country. You are so fucked in the head cum is dripping out of your nose!

Bruh, Robbie wants to know how the Obama's can afford to live in nice neighborhood. He wants them investigated for that. True story.

Why TF are y'all trying to talk sense into that dude?

I've had him blocked for months now but peak now and then to see how far down the rabbit hole he's gone.

He's way gone. He has a right to be as stupid as he wants tho.

#MAGA