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Bladewire 03-30-2019 06:37 PM

How can you be pro choice & against the death penalty?
 

Can someone please explain this to me? I don't get it.

TheSquealer 03-30-2019 07:17 PM

because one is killing an innocent and one is not. how dense do you have to be to not understand the difference?

Acepimp 03-30-2019 07:24 PM

It costs $50,000 per year to house one inmate. A rope is much cheaper, we should go back to that. Now it's lethal injection which involves buying chemicals, which involves bribery / corruption in handing out the contracts. Fuck all that. Let 'em hang.

RedFred 03-30-2019 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22443438)
because one is killing an innocent and one is not. how dense do you have to be to not understand the difference?


So you're against killing innocent life?














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RedFred 03-30-2019 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22443441)
It costs $50,000 per year to house one inmate. A rope is much cheaper, we should go back to that. Now it's lethal injection which involves buying chemicals, which involves bribery / corruption in handing out the contracts. Fuck all that. Let 'em hang.

That's what they do in Iran. I knew you had it in ya.

Asspimps idea of Utopia

http://savethewest.com/wp-content/up...-in-iran-2.jpg

baddog 03-30-2019 07:51 PM

I should have known an idiot like BladeLiar would ask such a stupid question. What the fuck does pre-birth have to do with a convicted murderer?

Bladewire 03-30-2019 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22443451)
I should have known an idiot like BladeLiar would ask such a stupid question. What the fuck does pre-birth have to do with a convicted murderer?

So you believe that your life started after you came out of your mom's pussy.

So no baby is alive until after pussy initiation. Before coming out of the pussy you can kill a baby without killing a living human?

Mr Pheer 03-30-2019 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22443451)
I should have known an idiot like BladeLiar would ask such a stupid question. What the fuck does pre-birth have to do with a convicted murderer?

Because he's gay now, he has Breeder Guilt.

brassmonkey 03-30-2019 08:34 PM

ending the death penalty lines government pockets

Acepimp 03-31-2019 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22443444)
That's what they do in Iran. I knew you had it in ya.

Asspimps idea of Utopia

http://savethewest.com/wp-content/up...-in-iran-2.jpg

4 murderers, at 50K per year each, they are saving the taxpayers 200K per year, while ensuring they never murder again. What's the problem??

Acepimp 03-31-2019 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22443443)
So you're against killing innocent life?

Yeah, a big cat is totally the same as a human baby. You're an idiot.

:pimp

jezz87 03-31-2019 04:21 AM

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Now that feels good :)

just a punk 03-31-2019 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22443441)
It costs $50,000 per year to house one inmate.

Have you tried to make them work?

RedFred 03-31-2019 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22443564)
4 murderers, at 50K per year each, they are saving the taxpayers 200K per year, while ensuring they never murder again. What's the problem??

My Russian friend, it isn't the cost of the actual execution that drives up the cost, it is the appeals process. I'm sure as a Russian you could care less about the Constitutional rights of citizens in a country you have nothing to do with but that is the way it is.

Funny how you are always promoting the US to be more like Saudi Arabia or Iran. You're a closet Muslim.

k0nr4d 03-31-2019 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22443441)
It costs $50,000 per year to house one inmate. A rope is much cheaper, we should go back to that. Now it's lethal injection which involves buying chemicals, which involves bribery / corruption in handing out the contracts. Fuck all that. Let 'em hang.

They'd have to buy rope somewhere too, so no different than buying chemicals. They'd probably require that it has some kind of special medical homologation or something too :1orglaugh

RedFred 03-31-2019 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22443565)
Yeah, a big cat is totally the same as a human baby. You're an idiot.

:pimp


So you're saying a clump of undeveloped cells is more important than a breathing living creature with emotions who is on the verge of extinction? You Russians are a strange bunch.

SilentKnight 03-31-2019 06:05 AM

Another inflammatory online topic that gets beaten to the ground, goes nowhere except up in flames...changes nothing. All participants and combatants leave with the exact same mindset they came in with.

Zzzzzzz.......

Bladewire 03-31-2019 06:56 AM

This message is hidden because jezz87 is on your ignore list.

Alt-right hate fake nic troll is so TRIGGERED!! :1orglaugh

SilentKnight 03-31-2019 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22443444)

See...this is a large part of the problem.

Whenever there's work to be done in these third world countries - you always see photos of guys just hangin' around doin' nothing.

CaptainHowdy 03-31-2019 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 22443681)
See...this is a large part of the problem.

Whenever there's work to be done in these third world countries - you always see photos of guys just hangin' around doin' nothing.

ROFL. Im out.

Bladewire 03-31-2019 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 22443608)
Another inflammatory online topic that gets beaten to the ground, goes nowhere except up in flames...changes nothing. All participants and combatants leave with the exact same mindset they came in with.

I created this thread to learn from others what their mindset is, because I don't know. To me it seems contradictory but some good points have been made explaining the rationale for being pro choice & anti death penalty.

SilentKnight 03-31-2019 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22443694)
I created this thread to learn from others what their mindset is, because I don't know. To me it seems contradictory but some good points have been made explaining the rationale for being pro choice & anti death penalty.

For many pro-choicers it comes down to not acknowledging a fetus as being sentient and therefore abortion not being regarded as murder.

Therefore no contradiction - two entirely different issues.

Acepimp 03-31-2019 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22443600)
it isn't the cost of the actual execution that drives up the cost, it is the appeals process.

No one mentioned the appeals process. It costs about 50K per year just to keep someone in prison. Before any "appeals process" costs. Get a clue man. Simple economics. Spend 50K per year to house murderes, or execute them and save lots of taxpayer money. WHy are you defending murderers, Fred??

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22443606)
So you're saying a clump of undeveloped cells is more important than a breathing living creature with emotions who is on the verge of extinction? You Russians are a strange bunch.

".... a clump of undeveloped cells ..."

^^ That's true only up to 6 weeks

So you defend convicted murderers AND baby killers. :321GFY

Fuck off with your Russia nonsense. You look foolish (even more) with that shit :321GFY

RedFred 03-31-2019 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22443722)
No one mentioned the appeals process. It costs about 50K per year just to keep someone in prison. Before any "appeals process" costs. Get a clue man. Simple economics. Spend 50K per year to house murderes, or execute them and save lots of taxpayer money. WHy are you defending murderers, Fred??

Hey dummy, you're the one that is bitching about costs. Did your Russian handlers tell you it costs 3x more money to execute someone than to keep them in prison for life? Didn't think so.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22443722)
".... a clump of undeveloped cells ..."

^^ That's true only up to 6 weeks

So you defend convicted murderers AND baby killers. :321GFY

Fuck off with your Russia nonsense. You look foolish (even more) with that shit :321GFY

Really? So at 7 weeks they are developed....:1orglaugh

Over 90% of abortions are performed 13 weeks or under. We're all lucky you don't live in America, you sound like you're on the verge of shooting up an abortion clinic.

TheSquealer 03-31-2019 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22443443)
So you're against killing innocent life?

First, i grew up in Alaska in a family of professional hunting guides (brown bear, among other things). I spent my childhood in those circles, with everyone trading hunts/fishing trips and traveling around and seeing everyones prized trophy rooms in their homes. I met tons of wealthy hunters who traveled the world to get all the animals on their hit list.

I knew the guy who the very last legally hunted polar bear (Don Johnson) and i've known some of the worst poachers on the planet - where plenty of wealthy hunters are quite happy to pay for world record animals like bears, moose, caribou, sheep (dalls), alaskan mountain goats etc. all happy to pay 50-100k for the chance to go shoot the animal that had already been staked out and tracked by plane. The aforementioned guy who shot the polar bear had a full stuffed African Lion in his living room, a giraffe (just from the base of the neck up) elephant foot stools, elephant tusks, a full mount zebra, brown bears,... a massive assortment of rare animals and birds and over 120 sets of walrus ivory.

I think trophy hunting is abhorrent - such as shooting an Alaska Brown Bear just for the hide, though they are harvested to control population.

I don't care who shoots what if they're going to eat it.

I'm not sure how that in your mind compares to killing a human baby... unless you want to propose giving the fetus a 5 minute head start or issuing licenses to hunt them or something.


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