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Grapesoda 05-10-2019 10:34 AM

Cousin Marriage in Islam
 
I had no idea, they been at it for 1400, 1500 years... wow.. just wow...

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Cousin_Ma...slam#Scripture

Cousin marriage in Islam is a marriage to a person who shares a fairly recent ancestor (within a few generations). In some communities cousin marriages are encouraged and in others they are stigmatized. Cousin marriages are illegal and prohibited in some countries.[1][2] Children of cousin marriages may have increased risk of genetic disorders and child mortality.[3][4] Cousin marriages has been the norm throughout all Islamic recorded history[5] and remains so in Islamic world today.

Due to the actions of Prophet Muhammad and the Rightly-Guided Caliphs, marriage between cousins is explicitly allowed and even encouraged in Islam. The Qur'an itself does not discourage or forbid this practice in any way. In fact it implicitly allows it, as seen in chapter 4 verse 23[6]

So everyone besides these relatives named can be married. Such marriages in Muslim majority countries are often preferred and even encouraged in some regions. This is in contrast with China, India, most of the United States and some other nations where cousin-marriage is against the law and regarded as incest.

Even though there is some debate on this issue, scientists tend to agree it is genetically unhealthy. There are other problems with cousin marriages.

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Cousin_Ma...and_Statistics


Worldwide, it has been estimated that almost half of all Muslims are inbred:

A rough estimate shows that close to half of all Muslims in the world are inbred: In Pakistan, 70 percent of all marriages are between first cousins (so-called "consanguinity") and in Turkey the amount is between 25-30 percent.[17]

Statistical research on Arabic countries shows that up to 34 percent of all marriages in Algiers are consanguine (blood related), 46 percent in Bahrain, 33 percent in Egypt, 80 percent in Nubia (southern area in Egypt), 60 percent in Iraq, 64 percent in Jordan, 64 percent in Kuwait, 42 percent in Lebanon, 48 percent in Libya, 47 percent in Mauritania, 54 percent in Qatar, 67 percent in Saudi Arabia, 63 percent in Sudan, 40 percent in Syria, 39 percent in Tunisia, 54 percent in the United Arabic Emirates and 45 percent in Yemen.[18][19]

The British geneticist, Professor Steve Jones, giving The John Maddox Lecture at the 2011 Hay Festival had stated in relation to Muslim inbreeding, "It is common in the Islamic world to marry your brother’s daughter, which is actually [genetically] closer than marrying your cousin."[20]

look out alabama and tennessee .. :1orglaugh

crockett 05-10-2019 10:43 AM

Christians...

Maria I of Portugal has the distinction of being the first queen regnant to rule her country, but she is also distinguished by her nickname, Maria the Mad. Despite extreme piety, Maria married her uncle Pedro (when crowned, he was renamed Peter III) in 1778. Peter III was Maria’s father’s younger brother and 43 years old to her 26. The family web became more tangled when Maria and Peter III’s son and heir, Joseph, married his aunt (Maria’s sister) Benedita. Joseph was merely 15 while Benedita was 30. Therefore, Peter III’s daughter-in-law, sister-in-law, and niece were the same person.




Elisabeth of Austria was said to be convinced that her lineage was cursed by madness. However, it must have been difficult to pinpoint which family held the curse because her tree was so entangled. Elisabeth’s mother, Ludovika of Bavaria (married to a cousin) was one of 13 children born to Prince Maximillian of Bavaria. Ludovika’s sister Sophie married Archduke Franz Karl of Austria, and they together had a son, Franz Joseph, later Emperor of Austria and King of Hungary. Ludovika groomed her other daughter Helene to marry the Emperor, but Franz Joseph fell in love at first sight with Elisabeth and quickly proposed marriage. The marriage was a disaster. Elisabeth hated court life and had a contentious relationship with her aunt and mother-in-law, the Archduchess Sophie. Her health suffered, but this wasn’t because of the overlap of genes from incest. It was the Emperor’s affairs (he is rumored to have given her a venereal disease by cheating), and Elisabeth’s depression. She had anxious tendencies, was obsessed with her weight and diet, and suffered a nervous breakdown. The family tree remained rather circular in subsequent generations. Elisabeth’s daughter married her second cousin, Leopold, and Sophie and Ludovika’s other sister, Karolina, married Francis II, the grandfather of Franz Joseph. In other words, Karolina was both aunt and step-grandmother to the Emperor, and sister and step-mother-in-law to Archduchess Sophie.





Princess Victoria Melita is a special case because she married not one but two first cousins. She was also the granddaughter of one of the greatest examples of intermarriage, Queen Victoria, through her father, Alfred, Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. Queen Victoria wished for her granddaughter to marry her grandson, Ernest Louis, the grand duke of Hesse. They had a daughter (and a stillborn son), but the marriage didn’t work; Victoria reportedly caught Ernest in bed with a male servant, and fights between the two were volatile. After Queen Victoria died, the couple divorced legally, but it still caused a scandal among royal circles. Princess Victoria went on to marry the real love of her life: another first cousin, this time from her mother’s side, named Kirill Vladimirovich. Kirill was a Russian grand duke, and when they married without the approval of Tsar Nicholas II, Kirill was stripped of his office in the Navy and banished from Russia for nearly five years. Eventually, the couple was allowed back into Russia but only because a series of deaths in the Russian royal family made Kirill third in the line of succession. Though Kirill was first cousin to both the Tsar and his wife, the relationship never warmed.




Queen Victoria is well known as a prolific matriarch who believed that intermarriage between European royalty could guarantee peace. Her matchmaking, first of her nine children then of her grandchild, cross-pollinated nearly every royal family in Europe but greatly contributed to the end of the imperial age. In fact, family relations between the descendants who ruled England, Russia, and Britain were very central to World War I. Kaiser Wilhelm’s extreme insecurities and anger toward Britain was directly linked to his English mother’s insistence throughout his upbringing that anything English was superior to Germany. Historians point to the years leading up to World War I as plagued not only by political upheaval but personal familial vendettas by Wilhelm against his cousins King Edward VII and Tsar Nicholas II of Russia.

beerptrol 05-10-2019 10:45 AM

Alt right sister fucker starts another thread. Plenty of inbreeding among you christians!


Since Adam and Eve were the only two human beings on earth, their sons and daughters had no choice but to marry and reproduce with their siblings and close relatives.

crockett 05-10-2019 10:46 AM

Different religions same fucked up shit but both sides think they are holier than the other...

TheSquealer 05-10-2019 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22467519)
Different religions same fucked up shit but both sides think they are holier than the other...

yet,... ironically, none of them are more smug and arrogant and hateful than you.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bosa 05-10-2019 01:34 PM

https://i.redd.it/9ta65amj8ex21.jpg

What have you done for the last 13 years. This is want he did.

Hakim
"Today, I will have accomplished what I set out for almost 13 years ago (4 years of undergrad, 3 years of medical research, 6 years of medical school). I’m the first generation on both sides of my family to go to college or graduate school and today I will officially be a Doctor of Medicine!"

DraX 05-10-2019 02:02 PM

Crockett believes the real enemy to be fought is within the right movement, there's really no other explanation to his constant counter posts.

Carry on...

TrafficTitan 05-10-2019 04:03 PM

His counter to 45% of arabs are married to a relative is that a few european nobles from 100s of years ago did it. In modern USA, Europe, and in most asian countries it's nearly not existant.

OneHungLo 05-10-2019 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TrafficTitan (Post 22467660)
His counter to 45% of arabs are married to a relative is that a few european nobles from 100s of years ago did it. In modern USA, Europe, and in most asian countries it's nearly not existant.

He's starting to lose more than bladewire.

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In Pakistan, where there has been cousin marriage for generations, and according to professor Anne-Marie Nybo Andersen from South Danish University, the current rate is 70%,[11] one study estimated infant mortality at 12.7 percent for married double first cousins, 7.9 percent for first cousins, 9.2 percent for first cousins once removed/double second cousins, 6.9 percent for second cousins, and 5.1 percent among non-consanguineous progeny. Among double first cousin progeny, 41.2 percent of pre-reproductive deaths were associated with the expression of detrimental recessive genes, with equivalent values of 26.0, 14.9, and 8.1 percent for first cousins, first cousins once removed/double second cousins, and second cousins respectively.

A BBC report discussed Pakistanis in the United Kingdom, 55% of whom marry a first cousin. Given the high rate of such marriages, many children come from repeat generations of first-cousin marriages. The report states that these children are 13 times more likely than the general population to produce children with genetic disorders, and one in ten children of first-cousin marriages in Birmingham either dies in infancy or develops a serious disability.[12]

The BBC also states that Pakistani-Britons, who account for some 3% of all births in the UK, produce "just under a third" of all British children with genetic illnesses. Published studies show that mean perinatal mortality in the Pakistani community of 15.7 per thousand significantly exceeds that in the indigenous population and all other ethnic groups in Britain. Congenital anomalies account for 41 percent of all British Pakistani infant deaths.[13][14][15][16]

Worldwide, it has been estimated that almost half of all Muslims are inbred:

A rough estimate shows that close to half of all Muslims in the world are inbred: In Pakistan, 70 percent of all marriages are between first cousins (so-called "consanguinity") and in Turkey the amount is between 25-30 percent.[17]

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Cousin_Marriage_in_Islam

Bosa 05-10-2019 04:43 PM

https://i.redd.it/9ta65amj8ex21.jpg

What have you done for the last 13 years. This is want he did.

Hakim
"Today, I will have accomplished what I set out for almost 13 years ago (4 years of undergrad, 3 years of medical research, 6 years of medical school). I’m the first generation on both sides of my family to go to college or graduate school and today I will officially be a Doctor of Medicine!

habibjr 05-10-2019 04:47 PM

lol.. fake news. Notes: WikiIslam was founded in 2006 by Ali Sina and Faith Freedom International. Essentially, WikiIslam is an anti-Islam wiki that purports to have 2893 articles/pages about Islam as of today
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/wikiislam/

OneHungLo 05-10-2019 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosa (Post 22467675)
https://i.redd.it/9ta65amj8ex21.jpg

What have you done for the last 13 years. This is want he did.

Hakim
"Today, I will have accomplished what I set out for almost 13 years ago (4 years of undergrad, 3 years of medical research, 6 years of medical school). I’m the first generation on both sides of my family to go to college or graduate school and today I will officially be a Doctor of Medicine!

And? Still doesn't erase all the incest in islam.

Muhammed marry his first cousin. Fact. That's why they do it. Fact. Incest is absolutely condoned by the Islamic God. Marriage between cousins is explicitly allowed by the koran, and in many Arab countries to this day, marrying one’s cousins to keep the money in your family is often encouraged and preferred.

brassmonkey 05-10-2019 05:02 PM

i stumbled into a rally... :helpme oh jeezus
https://i.imgur.com/2x9fjOR.gif

Bladewire 05-10-2019 05:05 PM

Incest in America's redneck South has been common knowledge for 200 years. These are Trump people :2 cents:

DraX 05-10-2019 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by habibjr (Post 22467677)
lol.. fake news. Notes: WikiIslam was founded in 2006 by Ali Sina and Faith Freedom International. Essentially, WikiIslam is an anti-Islam wiki that purports to have 2893 articles/pages about Islam as of today
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/wikiislam/

It's not fake news, there are numerous reports and sources of inbreeding going on in Muslim countries. I don't know how wide spread it is but MSM have most likely tried to avoid this subject as much as possible as it doesn't fit the agenda.

Here's another source from wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin...he_Middle_East

It's part of middle eastern culture but real numbers would be hard to fetch

Guys remember we often hear from different sources of causes for the Muslim behavior in western countries. I often hear the cause to be testosterone but I believe this inbreeding together with a more primitive social development to be a more plausible cause.

The testosterone theory fits the agenda nevertheless, feminists can continue point generally at western males and political left/liberals are able to subdue us by claiming testosterone and male behavior is a problem.

Testosterone is not a problem even though steroid users can get into severe aggression bouts it's just a matter of neurotransmitters not keeping up, or the individual is not stable enough and safe to say it's not for everyone. Aggressiveness can display in none steroid users as well then it's usually comes down to underlying imbalances in neurotransmitters.

crockett 05-10-2019 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DraX (Post 22467612)
Crockett believes the real enemy to be fought is within the right movement, there's really no other explanation to his constant counter posts.

Carry on...

^^^^

Has never been to Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee, Alabama... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

P_RABID 05-10-2019 07:14 PM

It's not only Arab Muslims that do this, even christian Arabs do it. Mostly Lebanon Muslims and Christians to be exact.

OneHungLo 05-10-2019 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22467762)
^^^^

Has never been to Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee, Alabama... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Honestly why do you hate them so much? Do white hillbillies take cities and towns and turn them in to war zones or something?

just a punk 05-11-2019 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22467510)
In some communities cousin marriages are encouraged and in others they are stigmatized. Cousin marriages are illegal and prohibited in some countries.

Have no idea about Islam, but in Russia it's absolutely legal too. I don't want to say the people do that, but it's not prohibited by the law. BTW, incest is also legal here. It's a publicly denounced phenomena, but not a crime, according to the law.

Paul Markham 05-11-2019 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22467762)
^^^^

Has never been to Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee, Alabama... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

So you admit the US has problems with it's own citizens. Yet you use that as an excuse to let in more people who will bring problems with them. Don't you think that's very backward?

Inbreeding is a real problem, America has it in their Amish type communities. The solution is to keep it out of the West.

https://www.google.com/search?ei=WKr...71.lQZYbJt7paI

just a punk 05-11-2019 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22467762)
Has never been to Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee, Alabama...

How many states you've been too? Just curious ;)

247mg 05-11-2019 05:16 AM

Why you discussing here what muslims do with cousin marriages..... seems you must like your cousin.... have a shag with her mate

crockett 05-11-2019 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22467852)
How many states you've been too? Just curious ;)

48 just not Alaska or Hawaii.. Been to Canada, Mexico and Bahamas as well but admittedly I haven't done a lot of over seas travel.

Traveling in continental US is very cheap for how I do it so I can do a lot with out wasting a lot of time working. If I choose to do a lot of over seas I'd have to work a lot more.

Honestly, I need to work on building more online revenue. It's why I got into adult in the 1st place because I wanted to be location independent.

celandina 05-11-2019 08:25 AM

Willie Nelson:

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