Do most pay sites/sponsors see affiliates as protection racketeers?
 

Do most of the pay sites and studios consider us affiliates to be little more than a protection money racket that they have no choice to put up with, or do they think we actually bring value to the table and increase their profits?

I mean, if there were no affiliate programs, would most pay sites that currently offer affiliate programs (and agree to give away as much as 50% of their profits), actually be worse off?

Pay Site A has to offer an affiliate program because Pay Site B does, and if Pay Site A doesn't, then the affiliates will promote Pay Site B only. But in most cases, wouldn't both Pay Sites be better off if neither offered affiliate programs?

I was in discussion with somebody in a 'domainer' forum and some guy said he had bought (I'm just using this as a fake example) TitsVR.com domain name and was looking to set up a site and promote the pay site VRTits.com and I told him that sometimes sponsors don't like affiliates using such similar names. He replied that if they rejected his application, he'd tell them that he'd simply be promoting the pay site VRBoobs and they would lose sales.

Is this why most of them appear to hate us? It seems like much of affiliate marketing is syphoning off the prized search engine optimized traffic and then telling pay sites who do all the hard work and deliver the real product that they will lose sales unless they pay us to 'protect' their positions in the search engines.

I can only think the main value we bring is that we position links to the pay sites in the search engines above all the free tubes, but then again, most of the affiliates are running free tubes and somehow hoping that the occasional visitor will for some reason want to buy porn.

I also wonder if it explains GFY. When you look at this place, it seems like it's almost been designed to stymie discussion between affiliates, and prevent any real discussion about making money. Obviously the studios and pay sites meet each other in real life or at least are in contact over Skype etc, so this is a place designed by the 'industry' for 'affiliates', and it's about as a complete joke as it gets. Maybe the 'industry' really hopes that affiliates would just go away?

Most of my daily sales are generically generated, however, many of my affiliates bring in sales that I´m glad and appreciative of. Most of my review affiliates make at least a sale every week, sending but 20 maybe 30 hits a day, it´s something I appreciate but not need...

No, they´re not for protection and we´re all just making more money than we could have with referrals :thumbsup

I have an affiliate program, but only because my programmers insisted I must have it. I do not support it and have set my payout only at 10 % so they mostly stay away...I believe in good content, a few selected reciprocal links and a basic SEO. I have NO idea why would anybody wanted to pay 50 % of his revenue to some guy jacking off in his basement running 30 tubes with stolen content.:2 cents:

In the past affiliates made a lot of sales for us. To the moment % of direct sales is much higher. However we are happy to have any new affiliates onboard (except spammers and carders).

Affiliates are loved and appreciated but gone are the days where the program bent over backwards. Sure, affiliates rock, but nothing beats a type in sale

And also, programs can be more choosy now. Back in the day affiliates wanted to be prepaid for joins. Today that would be pure comedy

affiliates are cheap traffic and sales

you can charge $50 and 50% comms rather than $20 and 20% comms. Everyone makes more

Affiliates don't get anything close to 50%.
-some sales are not tracked,
-users sign up for a site, cancel after three months, and then 6 months later sign up again to get the new content, and you get no cut.
-tracked user finds a paysite , but then signs up on a different device.
-affiliates promote the brand, and user signs up for the network site. (There is a good reason why you cant promote babes.com, brazzers.com, pornpros.com...)

I'd be surprised if the affiliate makes more than 15% of the sales he generates. And as such is the cheapest traffic out there. Try running an exo campaign and bring home 85%...

Well said.

Many of the program owners don't realize that a big percentage of their so called "type-in" and "direct" traffic are actually the results of affiliates promoting their site.

If affiliates didn't advertise their site all over the web, they would have a small amount of direct traffic.

It's no wonder that you rarely run into paysites without an affiliate program. It's not that they don't exist. They're just unknown and invisible for the most part.

Countless times i have a type in who rejoins through an affiliate. It goes both ways.

As program owners, you can be every where, lets look at review sites, if you don't have affiliate program, you are looking some good traffic from this kind of websites. Some affiliates with niched blogs are also good source of sales.

That affiliate's page had a role in finally convincing him to rejoin in this scenario too. It's similar to paying for retargeting ads in Google Ads / Facebook / etc.

FYI : I have a VOD site where every single movie generates its own income. Mine is not a membership site.

I fully agree with OP

time to use all sponsor content and send all the traffic to a cam site. Oohh wait, that is already done.

So, the whole affiliate industry is for you 1 guy with stolen content. Shame on you for this generalization of hard-working entrepreneurs. Affiliates are your foot soldiers, besides the rotten apples you can't just put us in a corner like this.

But that being said, you are free to point fingers, this is the perfect place for it. I hope to not see you on other industry boards asking for affiliates, you can count on it I will show people this exact post where you piss on us.

What he said. It's so easy to lose that cookie, and for surfers to have their privacy settings so that they look like they came from a type-in when they actually clicked a link. So affiliates have to just live with the fact that they won't get credit for all the traffic they send.

The other thing to bear in mind is that if a paysite owner wanted to rank for all the terms that affiliates do, it could cost them way more than 50% of their revenue.

Do not worry you will NOT find me anywhere looking for affiliates....at 50 % I would rather get "kneecapped" ....and as for me ? It is NOT one guy with stolen content, it is the ONE guy who does not steal content. Just look around here ....and wise up. :2 cents:

No matter how you slice the house always wins. The house just has to be fair & honest, which isn’t hard if you have good character.