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Bladewire 06-08-2019 12:28 PM

Supreme Court rules against homophobic florist who refused service to married couple
 

Nice to see "liberty and justice for all" is still alive and well.

I love watching the haters get trounced in court :thumbsup

Losers keep trying to use religion as an excuse to treat people as lesser than & hurt people & keep them down. Sad for them.

Supreme Court rules against homophobic florist who refused service to married Gay couple

Washington (CNN) — The Supreme Court on Thursday ruled against a florist who declined to make an arrangement for the wedding of a same-sex couple.

The ruling is the latest in the national fight over religious freedom and anti-discrimination laws, coming one year after the US Supreme Court sided with a Colorado baker who declined to make a cake for a same-sex couple.

"The State of Washington bars discrimination in public accommodations on the basis of sexual orientation. Discrimination based on same-sex marriage constitutes discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation," the nine-member state court said in its unanimous decision.

The Washington case involves Arlene's Flowers and Barronelle Stutzman, a florist who refused in 2013 to make a floral arrangement for long-time client Robert Ingersoll's same-sex wedding. In a statement issued last year, she said that while she serves everyone, she cannot "create a custom floral arrangements that celebrates events or express messages at odds with my faith."


Washington state Supreme Court rules against florist in same-sex wedding case
By Devan Cole and Ariane de Vogue, CNN

Updated at 4:44 PM ET, Thu June 6, 2019

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SCOTUS won't hear same-sex wedding flower case 01:32
Washington (CNN) — The Washington state Supreme Court on Thursday ruled against a florist who declined to make an arrangement for the wedding of a same-sex couple.
The ruling is the latest in the national fight over religious freedom and anti-discrimination laws, coming one year after the US Supreme Court sided with a Colorado baker who declined to make a cake for a same-sex couple.
"The State of Washington bars discrimination in public accommodations on the basis of sexual orientation. Discrimination based on same-sex marriage constitutes discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation," the nine-member state court said in its unanimous decision.
The Washington case involves Arlene's Flowers and Barronelle Stutzman, a florist who refused in 2013 to make a floral arrangement for long-time client Robert Ingersoll's same-sex wedding. In a statement issued last year, she said that while she serves everyone, she cannot "create a custom floral arrangements that celebrates events or express messages at odds with my faith."

Stutzman plans to appeal to the US Supreme Court, her lawyers said Thursday, a move that could eventually result in a broader ruling on religious freedom, according to Steve Vladeck, CNN Supreme Court analyst and professor at the University of Texas School of Law.

"Today's ruling clears the way for the justices to reach the larger question the Supreme Court ducked in the Masterpiece Cakeshop case last year, namely, whether states apply neutral anti-discrimination laws to secular businesses in a manner that is inconsistent with individual business owners' religious beliefs," Vladeck said.

"Whether the justices actually want to reach the larger question, of course, remains to be seen, and this case just became a good vehicle for finding out," Vladeck added.

The US Supreme Court ruling in the Colorado Masterpiece Cakeshop case was carefully tailored to the case at hand and was not a broad nationwide verdict on whether businesses could decline services to same-sex couples based on religious objections to same-sex marriage.

After that ruling, the Washington case, which had been appealed to the Supreme Court, was sent back down to the state so a lower court could revisit the florist's case in light of the ruling in Masterpiece Cakeshop.
On Thursday, the state distinguished the cases and ruled against Stutzman.

Washington Attorney General Bob Ferguson, who represented the state in the case, told CNN on Thursday that the decision "is a complete and total victory for civil rights here in Washington state."
Ferguson believes that what the US Supreme Court wanted reviewed by the state's court was settled in Thursday's ruling.

"The Supreme Court, when they sent this case back to the Washington state supreme court, was very specific in asking the Washington court to look at this Colorado case and see if there's any religious intolerance expressed by the entities who decided the case," Ferguson said. "And the answer's very straightforward: no."

John Bursch, an attorney with Alliance Defending Freedom, the group representing Stutzman, told CNN on Thursday that the state court did not take the US Supreme Court's review request "seriously."
"Unfortunately, the Washington state Supreme Court did not take that remand order seriously. They simply said that opinion in (the Masterpiece Cakeshop case) applies only to judicial officers or an adjudicatory bodies and because they, the Washington Supreme Court, had acted fairly that meant no problems for (Stutzman's case)," he said.
Bursch said he's "confident" the Supreme Court will take up the case because it's "the ideal vehicle for deciding these kinds of issues."

"This is the type of case where a decision in Barronelle's favor benefits everybody, not just those on one side or the other of a marriage debate," Bursch said.

All of this comes as US Supreme Court justices have been sitting on a similar petition for several weeks. That petition comes from lawyers for an Oregon bakery hoping to seize on the momentum of the Colorado ruling by asking the court to issue a broad ruling that could have nationwide implications. The justices have not yet acted upon the petition.

OneHungLo 06-08-2019 12:37 PM

Can't wait for the Jewish baker that will be forced to make a Nazi cake.

Oh you didn't think it works both ways, idiot?

Bladewire 06-08-2019 12:39 PM

It's awesome seeing courts rule on the side of equality :thumbsup


Bosa 06-08-2019 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22482013)
Can't wait for the Jewish baker that will be forced to make a Nazi cake.

Oh you didn't think it works both ways, idiot?

Nazi's are not a protected group. And no one will care if a jewish baker declines to bake for a Nazi. We have righteousness on our side not yours.
The writing is on the wall. To be a Nazi and White supremacist will soon be illegal.
All your hate speech will land you in Jail.

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OneHungLo 06-08-2019 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosa (Post 22482023)
Nazi's are not a protected group. And no one will care if a jewish baker declines to bake for a Nazi. We have righteousness on our side not yours.
The writing is on the wall. To be a Nazi and White supremacist will soon be illegal.
All your hate speech will land you in Jail.

Has nothing to do with that. Our amendments guarantee free speech and free exercise of religion.

And that will never change here :thumbsup

RedFred 06-08-2019 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22482013)
Can't wait for the Jewish baker that will be forced to make a Nazi cake.

Oh you didn't think it works both ways, idiot?

^^ Excited with the prospect of Nazism becoming more mainstream.

At least you finally admit it.

Rochard 06-08-2019 01:37 PM

I'll never understand the hatred some people have towards others.

Are people really that offended by gays? I could't imagine looking at someone and saying "you are gay so I cannot serve you".

Bosa 06-08-2019 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22482025)
Has nothing to do with that. Our amendments guarantee free speech and free exercise of religion.

And that will never change here :thumbsup

Famous Last words for a Nazi White Supremacist :1orglaugh

Those rights will be taken away from people like you:1orglaugh

OneHungLo 06-08-2019 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22482027)
^^ Excited with the prospect of Nazism becoming more mainstream.

At least you finally admit it.

Good lord man, you're like an immature, hysterical 12 yr old girl.

bronco67 06-08-2019 03:13 PM

The way I feel about this is the government should stay out of it.

if a business doesn't want to give service to a certain person they should have full right to do that for whatever reason. But that business also has to accept the consequences the market may bring down upon them once it's revealed they're bigoted assholes.

And why would a gay person want to be served by a business which has a discriminatory attitude towards them? Sounds like both sides are assholes.

OneHungLo 06-08-2019 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22482065)
The way I feel about this is the government should stay out of it.

if a business doesn't want to give service to a certain person they should have full right to do that for whatever reason. But that business also has to accept the consequences the market may bring down upon them once it's revealed they're bigoted assholes.

And why would a gay person want to be served by a business which has a discriminatory attitude towards them? Sounds like both sides are assholes.

According to Bosa, you are a Nazi.

RedFred 06-08-2019 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22482045)
Good lord man, you're like an immature, hysterical 12 yr old girl.

Hysterical? I'm starting to think you've never been around a woman...ever. Probably due to you being a Nazi and all.

Smack dat 06-08-2019 04:11 PM

Dumb as rocks.

Bladewire 06-08-2019 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Smack dat (Post 22482080)
Dumb as rocks.

Yes you are a stupid third worlder.

Stupid third worlders like you really make me appreciate smart third-worlders :thumbsup

pimpmaster9000 06-09-2019 01:08 AM

this is what gives the faggo a bad name...they like to force people to do something but then claim they are for freedom...this is probably because they get brain damage from eating the poo poo....gays have to learn to be tolerant...you can not use force and threats to make people think your way...you can not get everything in life, this is how life is, sorry if this lights the fuse on your gay tampon...

the faggo community would be much better off if they practiced what they preach...they want us to "accept" them yet they will not accept others...people have the right to NOT agree...examples:

-josh wants to fuck mandys rocking tits...mandy does not like josh...josh goes on social media and calls mandy a whore...

josh is an asshole in this story because he does not have the right to expect shit and is a little bitch...this is how life is and it does not owe you shit...but gays think life owes them shit...because they are "special"...

they dont call faggots faggots for nothing :2 cents::thumbsup

King Mark 06-09-2019 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22482025)
Has nothing to do with that. Our amendments guarantee free speech and free exercise of religion.

And that will never change here :thumbsup

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directfiesta 06-09-2019 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22482013)
Can't wait for the Jewish baker that will be forced to make a Nazi cake.

Oh you didn't think it works both ways, idiot?

Someone refuse to bake you a cake ?

Bladewire 06-09-2019 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22482233)
this is what gives the faggo a bad name...they like to force people to do something but then claim they are for freedom...this is probably because they get brain damage from eating the poo poo....gays have to learn to be tolerant...you can not use force and threats to make people think your way...you can not get everything in life, this is how life is, sorry if this lights the fuse on your gay tampon...

the faggo community would be much better off if they practiced what they preach...they want us to "accept" them yet they will not accept others...people have the right to NOT agree...examples:

-josh wants to fuck mandys rocking tits...mandy does not like josh...josh goes on social media and calls mandy a whore...

josh is an asshole in this story because he does not have the right to expect shit and is a little bitch...this is how life is and it does not owe you shit...but gays think life owes them shit...because they are "special"...

they dont call faggots faggots for nothing :2 cents::thumbsup


Look at crucifissio the closet case faggot who posts about Gay sex in prison everyday for years.

Bladewire 06-09-2019 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22482075)
Hysterical? I'm starting to think you've never been around a woman...ever. Probably due to you being a Nazi and all.

OneHungLo is very dramatic , a true drama queen.

Bladewire 06-09-2019 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22482065)
The way I feel about this is the government should stay out of it.

if a business doesn't want to give service to a certain person they should have full right to do that for whatever reason. But that business also has to accept the consequences the market may bring down upon them once it's revealed they're bigoted assholes. Religious clerks refusing to give marriage licenses to Gays.

And why would a gay person want to be served by a business which has a discriminatory attitude towards them? Sounds like both sides are assholes.

I agree but it's a slippery slope, as we've seen, this leads to "religious" nurses & doctors refusing to treat Gay patients, teachers refusing to teach Gay children and children of Gay parents.

Then it leads to "religious" christian nurses & doctors refusing to treat muslim patients, etc. etc.

The sad thing is religious institutions don't pay taxes so they're emboldened and empowered by their hate financially. The government should not be subsidizing religious hate they should pay taxes like everybody else.

People hiding behind religion to justify hate, bigotry and discrimination is a big issue in America unfortunately.

pimpmaster9000 06-09-2019 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22482273)

Look at crucifissio the closet case faggot who posts about Gay sex in prison everyday for years.

if josh wants to fuck mandys rocking tits, but mandy does not want this, does this give josh the right to get angry and trash her on social media?...can josh get a court to rule that mandy must give up them titties?...does mandy even have a choice?...

gays have to accept that straight men have rights as well...we have the right to go our own way and not take part in the gay stuff...we do not have to look at it, we do not have to like it, we do not have to be around it...

honestly, if I was a florist and I had to deliver flowers to gays at a gay wedding and everybody was gay around me, I would NOT be looking forward to it at all...I have the right to exist...you have no right to have an opinion on what I like and do not like as long as I do not force you to take part...and the same applies for everybody...


I never employed gays in skirts even though tons of them contacted me for the stripper ads...I do not want to be around them...nothing against them, good luck to them, but I aint sitting and chatting with them and I will not be seen with them....alpha like me do not hang with gays and we avoid gay shit...

men like me have the right to exist...we will never make a move against you, we wish you all the best, but we want nothing to do with you and we expect to be left alone...we have rights...

if you have rights, we have rights...deal with it...

Bladewire 06-09-2019 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22482300)
if josh wants to fuck mandys rocking tits, but mandy does not want this, does this give josh the right to get angry and trash her on social media?...can josh get a court to rule that mandy must give up them titties?...does mandy even have a choice?...

gays have to accept that straight men have rights as well...we have the right to go our own way and not take part in the gay stuff...we do not have to look at it, we do not have to like it, we do not have to be around it...

honestly, if I was a florist and I had to deliver flowers to gays at a gay wedding and everybody was gay around me, I would NOT be looking forward to it at all...I have the right to exist...you have no right to have an opinion on what I like and do not like as long as I do not force you to take part...and the same applies for everybody...


I never employed gays in skirts even though tons of them contacted me for the stripper ads...I do not want to be around them...nothing against them, good luck to them, but I aint sitting and chatting with them and I will not be seen with them....alpha like me do not hang with gays and we avoid gay shit...

men like me have the right to exist...we will never make a move against you, we wish you all the best, but we want nothing to do with you and we expect to be left alone...we have rights...

if you have rights, we have rights...deal with it...

You are an idiot.

When my son was born, he had more rights in America than I did; can you fucking comprehend that? Can you comprehend parenting a child and knowing that child has more rights than you do? I lived that life.

Nowadays my son and I have equal rights :thumbsup

pimpmaster9000 06-09-2019 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22482306)
You are an idiot.

When my son was born, he had more rights in America than I did; can you fucking comprehend that? Can you comprehend parenting a child and knowing that child has more rights than you do? I lived that life.

Nowadays my son and I have equal rights :thumbsup

oh fuck off you had the same rights as every other homo sapiens...

King Mark 06-09-2019 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22482306)
You are an idiot.

When my son was born, he had more rights in America than I did; can you fucking comprehend that? Can you comprehend parenting a child and knowing that child has more rights than you do? I lived that life.

Nowadays my son and I have equal rights :thumbsup

You was jealous of your son bro? Just for him being a real american?

That's your big life struggle?

beerptrol 06-09-2019 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22482258)
Someone refuse to bake you a cake ?

His mom refused to bake him a 12in black penis cake for his birthday.

Bosa 06-09-2019 01:24 PM

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Bladewire 06-09-2019 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22482409)
oh fuck off you had the same rights as every other homo sapiens...

Why are you lying?

Oh yeah, you're not American, you don't live in America and you don't know what the fuck you're talking about as usual.

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TheSquealer 06-09-2019 01:56 PM

The hateful and terminally intolerant yet again seek to force their views on others in the name of "tolerance"

Bladewire 06-09-2019 02:23 PM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

Bosa 06-09-2019 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22482507)
The hateful and terminally intolerant yet again seek to force their views on others in the name of "tolerance"

I need nothing from You Nazi's or White Supremacists. Keep pretending that you don't post hate and racist shit things on a daily basis. I shine the light on darkness to cleanse evil.

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pimpmaster9000 06-10-2019 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22482500)
Why are you lying?

Oh yeah, you're not American, you don't live in America and you don't know what the fuck you're talking about as usual.

exactly what rights did your son have that you did not? exactly! you got caught talking bullshit and now you have no answer...

Bladewire 06-17-2019 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosa (Post 22482528)
I need nothing from You Nazi's or White Supremacists. Keep pretending that you don't post hate and racist shit things on a daily basis. I shine the light on darkness to cleanse evil.

My present to you.

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