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brassmonkey 06-24-2019 03:14 PM

Florida woman charged after giving husband's guns to police
 
ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — A Florida woman's effort to protect herself from domestic violence has become a flashpoint in the debate over gun rights and victims' safety. Courtney Irby gave her estranged husband's guns to police after he was charged with domestic violence-aggravated battery, only to find herself arrested for theft.
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Now a Florida lawmaker and gun safety advocates are championing her cause, asking a state attorney on Monday drop the charges, while gun rights advocates want her prosecuted. Courtney Irby spent six days in jail on charges of armed burglary and grand theft after she retrieved the assault rifle and handgun from her husband's apartment and gave them to the Lakeland Police. Joseph Irby was spending one day in jail at the time, accused of ramming into her car after a June 14 divorce hearing.

After her husband's arrest, Courtney Irby petitioned for a temporary injunction for protection, which was granted. Federal law prohibits people under a domestic violence restraining order from possessing guns, but it's up to local law enforcement to enforce it, according to the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

Courtney Irby told police that she believed he wouldn't turn in his guns himself, so she took action. According to her arrest report, she said she entered her husband's apartment through a locked door without his permission and took the guns to a police station.

"So you're telling me you committed an armed burglary?" the officer asked her. "Yes, I am but he wasn't going to turn them in so I am doing it," the officer said she responded. Democratic State Rep. Anna Eskamani of Orlando tweeted that it's "ridiculous" to arrest a woman in this kind of situation. She sent a letter Monday to State Attorney Brian Haas asking that Irby not be prosecuted. She cited research showing the presence of a gun in a domestic violence situation makes it five times more likely a woman will be murdered.

"Ms. Irby was seeking help from the Lakeland Police Department and taking action to protect herself and her children," Eskamani wrote. "Prosecuting Ms. Irby sets a scary precedent that if someone seeks help to escape abuse, they will be punished for it."

While federal law prohibits people under domestic violence restraining orders and convicted of domestic violence from possessing guns, local law enforcement and prosecutors don't have the tools they need to enforce those restrictions, Eskamani said in her letter to the state attorney.

"These loopholes are major contributors to the deadly relationship between domestic violence and firearms," Eskamani said. Joseph Irby's charges involve an altercation that began with a shouting match after the divorce hearing. According to his arrest report, they both got into their cars and then he used his vehicle to strike her back bumper several times, running her off the road.

Courtney Irby told a responding officer that "she feared for her life," his arrest report said. As Joseph Irby was being placed into a patrol car, he called her "a man hater," the arrest report said. In requesting that she be released on bond, Courtney Irby's attorney argued that she didn't commit theft since she didn't take the guns for her personal use and didn't benefit by taking them.

Spokesmen for the Lakeland Police Department and the State Attorney's Office didn't immediately return requests for comment on Monday. Gun rights advocates have been tweeting in favor of prosecution and trolling Rep. Eskamani's Twitter account, while Courtney Irby's supporters launched a fundraising campaign for her legal fees. She's also getting support from Fred Guttenberg, whose daughter was killed in the Parkland, Florida school shooting.

Guttenberg tweeted that Irby was "an abused woman trying to protect herself from an abusive husband."

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Bladewire 06-24-2019 03:18 PM

That's a fucked up situation

brassmonkey 06-24-2019 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22490122)
That's a fucked up situation

just think if they gave the gun back and he killed her! the police know it's wrong and did it anyway

crockett 06-24-2019 04:48 PM

Unfortunately she stole them based on her actions, that's how it will play out.

brassmonkey 06-24-2019 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22490172)
Unfortunately she stole them based on her actions, that's how it will play out.

after he gets convicted... she can sue the city and state. if he in convicted of a felony

JesseQuinn 06-24-2019 06:53 PM

so hold up, she was charged for armed burglary for removing guns that should have been turned over to police anyways? she didn't enter with a gun but it was an armed burglary because she broke into a home, took guns that were not legal for the owner to possess due to his violence and turned those guns over to the cops who should have done their job and had them in possession already?

lacking "tools they need to enforce those restrictions" is not an excuse

she didn't steal anything. well yeah she did, but she did the officers jobs for them as they were clearly not acting quickly enough. he had already expressed violence towards her, more than once. what exactly were they waiting for?

leaving the relationship is the one of the most dangerous times for those choosing a life without violence. the cops got the guns they were ordered to confiscate but didn't. she's still alive

props to her

imabro 06-24-2019 07:00 PM

Stupid fucking cvnt, not her job.

brassmonkey 06-24-2019 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by imabro (Post 22490234)
Stupid fucking cvnt, not her job.

to save her life? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

brassmonkey 06-24-2019 07:45 PM

you can't steal something he was not suppose to have. hopefully he's a felon and claims them.

beerptrol 06-24-2019 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22490245)
you can't steal something he was not suppose to have. hopefully he's a felon and claims them.

You can't go breaking into your neighbor's house and take something he stole from you.

Bladewire 06-24-2019 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22490249)
You can't go breaking into your neighbor's house and take something he stole from you.

That's pretty much what OJ did and got him put in jail, justice finally served on that piece of shit :2 cents:

brassmonkey 06-24-2019 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22490249)
You can't go breaking into your neighbor's house and take something he stole from you.

oh you think her charges are the worse? felon with guns is going to send him right into the arms of bubba

sandman! 06-24-2019 08:25 PM

He had just been arrested he had no chance to sell or get rid of his guns I hope she gets convicted.


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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn (Post 22490230)
so hold up, she was charged for armed burglary for removing guns that should have been turned over to police anyways? she didn't enter with a gun but it was an armed burglary because she broke into a home, took guns that were not legal for the owner to possess due to his violence and turned those guns over to the cops who should have done their job and had them in possession already?

lacking "tools they need to enforce those restrictions" is not an excuse

she didn't steal anything. well yeah she did, but she did the officers jobs for them as they were clearly not acting quickly enough. he had already expressed violence towards her, more than once. what exactly were they waiting for?

leaving the relationship is the one of the most dangerous times for those choosing a life without violence. the cops got the guns they were ordered to confiscate but didn't. she's still alive

props to her


SilentKnight 06-24-2019 08:33 PM

Let's revisit this thread when she turns up dead.

Hopefully not, of course.

DBS.US 06-24-2019 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22490239)
to save her life? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

If she really thought he was going to shoot her why didn't she just leave Florida?

brassmonkey 06-24-2019 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 22490264)
If she really thought he was going to shoot her why didn't she just leave Florida?

this isn't the fuking movies... she was probably mad from the beating. go ask her

JesseQuinn 06-24-2019 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 22490260)
He had just been arrested he had no chance to sell or get rid of his guns I hope she gets convicted.

based on the federal law not being enforced because...police (some of them, not trolling but let's be real they dropped the ball here) the guns were not his to turn in. they should have been confiscated. seriously, you are going to trust a person deemed too unstable to own guns to turn them in voluntarily?

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Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 22490264)
If she really thought he was going to shoot her why didn't she just leave Florida?

ok. people should have to pick up their lives and move because police won't do their job. you have to know that's not right

this isn't a feminist issue, an anti-cop issue, an anti-gun issue. just a particular person was a danger to another person. rather than risk getting killed by a very typical method she acted and enforced the law the cops wouldn't

again, props to her

brassmonkey 06-24-2019 09:54 PM

i forgot to bring this up... since they are legally married she cannot steal community property. i think that is right. they are urging the prosecutor to drop the charges. once they arrested her they put money in her account :2 cents::2 cents: i could be a fuking lawyer :1orglaugh:1orglaugh something is in the water down in that muther fuker https://people.com/crime/florida-wom...ther-to-death/

just a punk 06-24-2019 10:25 PM

Charged for a theft of... husband's guns. Only in America :1orglaugh


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