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slapass 01-12-2020 02:02 PM

Pornstars Escorting
 
I have not looked before very much so not sure but it seems like a ton of big names are doing it pretty openly. I always thought it was more of a hush hush thing.

just a punk 01-12-2020 02:19 PM

Really??? You just found out that 2+2=4 :1orglaugh

slapass 01-12-2020 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22593194)
Really??? You just found out that 2+2=4 :1orglaugh

I knew they did it but they are all over the sites. It is pretty blatant.

NatalieK 01-12-2020 03:24 PM

the money is better in escorting and tbh, easier too...

the men appreciate you more, rather than thinking youīre a pornstar and can take a dick in the ass or gagging the fuck out of you in a gangbang porn vid...

Some guys, (when i do escort, not on a regular basis) however, when i do, we sit and chat for maybe half hour and enjoy a bit of kissing, some play time and a fuck before they leave and itīs all relaxed.

just a punk 01-12-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 22593206)
I knew they did it but they are all over the sites. It is pretty blatant.

You guys always use the misleading word "escorting". What do you mean by it? An escorting like showing with someone in public places like police escorts VIP persons on the road, or you mean doing sex for money? Sex for money is called prostitution. Since all porn models do sex with various men for money, it's prostitution too. Doesn't matter if it's on camera or not. And sex for money is prostitution. The Oxford dictionary says this:

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the practice or occupation of engaging in sexual activity with someone for payment.
Isn't that all the pornstars do?

escorpio 01-12-2020 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22593226)
You guys always use the misleading word "escorting". What do you mean by it? An escorting like showing with someone in public places like police escorts VIP persons on the road, or you mean doing sex for money? Sex for money is called prostitution. Since all porn models do sex with various men for money, it's prostitution too. Doesn't matter if it's on camera or not. And sex for money is prostitution. The Oxford dictionary says this:



Isn't that all the pornstars do?

euphemism

noun

a mild or indirect word or expression substituted for one considered to be too harsh or blunt when referring to something unpleasant or embarrassing.

NatalieK 01-12-2020 05:17 PM

a sales man, a home worker, someone selling content provided by a prostitute.


See the difference between a prostitute & an escort is, the time is paid for not the sex.

I spend half hour or hour with someone, and charge a fee. Sometimes no sex, maybe a blowjob or kissing, and sometimes, just chatting. yes, just chatting.

A prostitute charges an amount for a blowjob, a fuck, full sex or hand relief... not time, but the sex.

So CyberSEO, no, youīre incorrect, an escort is not a prostitute...

as an escort is someone whom maybe paid for a dinner date, a friend or maybe sex, what ever that person paying wants, receives.

Their time is paid for and not the sex <<<< this :thumbsup

sonofsam 01-12-2020 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NatalieK (Post 22593258)
a sales man, a home worker, someone selling content provided by a prostitute.


See the difference between a prostitute & an escort is, the time is paid for not the sex.

I spend half hour or hour with someone, and charge a fee. Sometimes no sex, maybe a blowjob or kissing, and sometimes, just chatting. yes, just chatting.

A prostitute charges an amount for a blowjob, a fuck, full sex or hand relief... not time, but the sex.

So CyberSEO, no, youīre incorrect, an escort is not a prostitute...

as an escort is someone whom maybe paid for a dinner date, a friend or maybe sex, what ever that person paying wants, receives.

Their time is paid for and not the sex <<<< this :thumbsup

Semantics

slapass 01-12-2020 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22593226)
You guys always use the misleading word "escorting". What do you mean by it? An escorting like showing with someone in public places like police escorts VIP persons on the road, or you mean doing sex for money? Sex for money is called prostitution. Since all porn models do sex with various men for money, it's prostitution too. Doesn't matter if it's on camera or not. And sex for money is prostitution. The Oxford dictionary says this:



Isn't that all the pornstars do?

There have been a lot of discussions on this. I can tell you that lots of people who do porn see a distinction.

just a punk 01-13-2020 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 22593284)
There have been a lot of discussions on this. I can tell you that lots of people who do porn see a distinction.

That's their problem. The prostitutes in my country also don't want to be called like that. They are always use other words like "individuals" etc. Does it change the fact that they do sex for money and they are prostitutes?

The people here usually call them "whores", which is incorrect of course.

CurrentlySober 01-13-2020 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 22593229)
euphemism

noun

a mild or indirect word or expression substituted for one considered to be too harsh or blunt when referring to something unpleasant or embarrassing.

Yes. Imagine my disappointment when I realised that 'Charlie and the Chocolate Factory' WASN'T a euphemism... I cried for days... :(

ZackBasil 01-13-2020 03:25 AM

Escort is more than just a prostitution imho. You pay for a time of smart and beautiful lady. She shall provide you much more service than just a usual sex-worker: intelligent conversations over a dinner, make a good companion during meeting with your business partners and so on.

Well and adult content performers are way far away from prostitution at all.

just a punk 01-13-2020 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ZackBasil (Post 22593358)
Well and adult content performers are way far away from prostitution at all.

So they don't do sex for money, right?

A prostitution: a pimp tells his girl to have sex with some male for money.
Non-prostitution (something different): a pimp tells his girl to have sex with some male for money while he films it.

Ok, you have a strong logic :thumbsup

ZackBasil 01-13-2020 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22593361)
So they don't do sex for money, right?

A prostitution: a pimp tells his girl to have sex with some male for money.
Non-prostitution (something different): a pimp tells his girl to have sex with some male for money while he films it.

Ok, you have a strong logic :thumbsup

You film your sex with ur GF. Than sell this content on a website or upload on a tube to get ur rev.share. Who are gonna be a pimp or a whore in this case? :winkwink:

Is it tough to be a moralist on an adult industry forum, bro?))

k0nr4d 01-13-2020 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NatalieK (Post 22593258)
See the difference between a prostitute & an escort is, the time is paid for not the sex.

I spend half hour or hour with someone, and charge a fee. Sometimes no sex, maybe a blowjob or kissing, and sometimes, just chatting. yes, just chatting.

A prostitute charges an amount for a blowjob, a fuck, full sex or hand relief... not time, but the sex.

What you explained is just two different payment models for the same thing. Analogically, when coding I can give someone a flat rate for the project ("the sex") or charge them hourly ("the time"), but i'm still a programmer. An escort is still a prostitute. A pornstar is still a prostitute (in most cases). There is however, a difference between an escort and a street hooker.

I am of course not imposing morals on anyone here, It would be ridiculous for someone working in the porn industry to look down on someone for having sex for money - but if someone is paying someone else with the expectation of sex in return it is in fact by definition prostitution.

CaptainHowdy 01-13-2020 06:34 AM

I can have them all for free in tube sites . . .







Incipit Paul Markham . . .

just a punk 01-13-2020 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ZackBasil (Post 22593382)
You film your sex with ur GF.

It is not a prostitution. Can you read English, ah? A dictionary maybe? Every sex which is being paid for is a prostitution. Do you pay to your GF for sex when she does it on video? No? So it's not a prostitution, because she does not sell sex to you for money. That's... just a sex.

celandina 01-13-2020 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22593361)
So they don't do sex for money, right?

A prostitution: a pimp tells his girl to have sex with some male for money.
Non-prostitution (something different): a pimp tells his girl to have sex with some male for money while he films it.

Ok, you have a strong logic :thumbsup


I guess you found Jesus :1orglaugh

just a punk 01-13-2020 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22593416)
I guess you found Jesus

In a trashcan maybe.

I'm not talking about morality (many prostitutes are very good people IRL). I'm talking about terminology. If you didn't notice... two programmers in this thread say the same thing. That's not because we say that prostitution is bad or so. We just don't understand why some people say that 2+2 is 5. We simply don't understand this logic. If someone does sex for money he/she is a prostitute according to the definition. Give us another definition and we will use instead.

Vendzilla 01-13-2020 09:15 AM

Just without the film crew!!

ZackBasil 01-13-2020 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22593412)
Every sex which is being paid for is a prostitution.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...m=prostitution

The one and only legit dictionary nowadays supports your point of view :thumbsup almost

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The act of paying money for the sexual favors of a member of the opposite sex or the same sex.
It is illegal in most of the USA unless you film it or photogragh it, then it's art, it's legal, and it's an $8 billion dollar a year industry.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The actors of the Love movie directed by Gaspar Noe performed sexual intercourse. That movie is not a porn. It's just a 18+ movie.

They got paid by contracts for the whole movie, not for separated scenes.

Are they prostitutes?

CaptainHowdy 01-13-2020 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ZackBasil (Post 22593439)
https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...m=prostitution

The one and only legit dictionary nowadays supports your point of view :thumbsup almost


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The actors of the Love movie directed by Gaspar Noe performed sexual intercourse. That movie is not a porn. It's just a 18+ movie.

They got paid by contracts for the whole movie, not for separated scenes.

Are they prostitutes?



Paul Markham 01-13-2020 10:09 AM

Prostitution is the oldest profession. The second oldest are the people earning money off prostitutes. That would be us.

Zuzana Designs 01-13-2020 11:16 AM

I heard a comedian say that sluts are just prostitute with bad economics!

fuzebox 01-13-2020 12:16 PM

Pornstars only shoot porn to market themselves for escorting :2 cents:

CourtneyR 01-13-2020 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 22593355)
Yes. Imagine my disappointment when I realised that 'Charlie and the Chocolate Factory' WASN'T a euphemism... I cried for days... :(

I laughed way too hard at this.

k0nr4d 01-13-2020 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ZackBasil (Post 22593439)
They got paid by contracts for the whole movie, not for separated scenes.

Are they prostitutes?

They are being paid to allow the sex to be filmed, not being paid to have sex.
Actually, I think this is a better definition:

Prostitution is payment for sex which most likely would not have occurred had it not been for the payment involved.

Ergo, a couple filming themselves and selling the video is not prostitution because they likely would have had sex anyways.

george MH 01-13-2020 12:59 PM

with normal porn: sex for sell
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pimpmaster9000 01-13-2020 02:57 PM

No its not hookin' at all, She talks to the guy first and they kiss LOL...oh well that completely changes the monetary aspect of the encounter of her butthole with his penis...sounds like good old hookin' to me...

slapass 01-13-2020 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 22593499)
Pornstars only shoot porn to market themselves for escorting :2 cents:

It looks like that.

nikki99 01-13-2020 04:52 PM

when I was young I suyffered a lot of sexual harrasment (stalking) because they concluded I was a prostitute because I was a pornstar (not even a pornstar yet)

and I wasnīt ....

CaptainHowdy 01-13-2020 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpmaster9000 (Post 22593565)
No its not hookin' at all, She talks to the guy first and they kiss LOL...oh well that completely changes the monetary aspect of the encounter of her butthole with his penis...sounds like good old hookin' to me...

For some having a girlfriend might relate a lot to dealing with a prostitute . . .

mce 01-13-2020 06:46 PM

Is there like a list somewhere? I'm sure that would get lots of Google searches

slapass 01-13-2020 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mce (Post 22593692)
Is there like a list somewhere? I'm sure that would get lots of Google searches

Escorts + big city it is all there.

MakeMeGrrrrowl 01-13-2020 08:31 PM

https://youtu.be/OkvjhWirED8?t=77

InfoGuy 01-14-2020 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mce (Post 22593692)
Is there like a list somewhere?

T**Lux***Comp*****.com

MatureKing 01-14-2020 03:05 AM

CurrentlySobber have poo color!!!!!!!!

NatalieK 01-14-2020 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22593385)
What you explained is just two different payment models for the same thing. Analogically, when coding I can give someone a flat rate for the project ("the sex") or charge them hourly ("the time"), but i'm still a programmer. An escort is still a prostitute. A pornstar is still a prostitute (in most cases). There is however, a difference between an escort and a street hooker.

I am of course not imposing morals on anyone here, It would be ridiculous for someone working in the porn industry to look down on someone for having sex for money - but if someone is paying someone else with the expectation of sex in return it is in fact by definition prostitution.

understanding what you mean, but still completely different...

a prostitute is paid to have sex, sex only. You go to a prostitute and pay 20 for a blow job or 50 for a fuck. An escort, you pay for the time, 100 for half hour and maybe sit and chat, another person may want sex, but then itīs escorting, escorting that persons wishes.

Also, pornstars have to be actors or actresses, at no point, unless itīs a gangbang or a dogginer session video scene. However, many of my vids have a story to them, therefore, I have to act, this would not be done with prostitution.

You do not get asked for a drink or dinner as a prostitute, however, as an escort, I do :thumbsup

just a punk 01-14-2020 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by NatalieK (Post 22593842)
a prostitute is paid to have sex, sex only.

Not at all. Many people here hire prostitutes just to talk with them. I know a guy who came to a brothel with a bad trip after weed and the prostitutes were bringing him various meds to stop his panic attack (he doesn't even wanted to have any sex there). So your definition doesn't work. If someone had sex for money even once, he/she is a prostitute.

King Mark 01-14-2020 05:55 AM

^russia got people overdosing on weed and paying prostitutes to talk?

https://i.imgur.com/KKYSxtU.jpg

Dead 01-14-2020 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22593412)
It is not a prostitution. Can you read English, ah? A dictionary maybe? Every sex which is being paid for is a prostitution. Do you pay to your GF for sex when she does it on video? No? So it's not a prostitution, because she does not sell sex to you for money. That's... just a sex.

That pussy was paid for...one way or another:2 cents:

NatalieK 01-14-2020 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22593846)
Not at all. Many people here hire prostitutes just to talk with them. I know a guy who came to a brothel with a bad trip after weed and the prostitutes were bringing him various meds to stop his panic attack (he doesn't even wanted to have any sex there). So your definition doesn't work. If someone had sex for money even once, he/she is a prostitute.

ahh maybe different here in Spain...

A prostitute is a street walker. Standing on the corner of the road wearing bikinis and the cars pull over, the girl gets in, they drive to a near by location and gives blowjobs or sex, iīve never done this but itīs obvious how it works.

A stripper or dancer is paid for the dance, here in Spain, can be paid extra for sex, personally, still not a prostitute, again i have no done this.

A pornstar, paid for filming of a sexual act with acting, a script, production of a movie.

An escort, contacted by private email or number, to set a time to meet at a place to give a service, whether chatting, giving a blowjob, or maybe dancing, serving drinks provocatively.



One of my favourite jobs escorting was for a disabled guy, he couldnīt do much for himself, so the carers cleaned him and tidied the home before I arrived and both Gary & I spent the night there, Gary, chatting to him as a best friend, giving him a lift in life and later that evening I give him sex. We changed his life and he felt good for one night of his life...



I have no problem either way, being called what ever, either way, my careerīs better than most others, the people iīve met, the great times iīve had and iīm certainly not a barrister getting the bad guys off or a dodgy accountant, a corrupt copper, a person selling goods but dissing the goods supplier and product.

Anyone here on GFY dissing any pornstar or adult worker, no matter the name or job they do in it, well, itīs more insulting than a vegan working at burger king moaning about meat :winkwink:

NatalieK 01-14-2020 07:30 AM

actually, iīve just thought of a definite answer to the question, are escorts prostitutes, no.

Check any film or job, a job title can be very similar sometimes, but the crew have different jobs, slightly as maybe, but like i have shown above, there is a difference. The way people are contacted, the appointments, the time or rate and fee for job, all vary.

A job title is a job title and if youīre happy to change this for others, then this shows how little you know what your job title is and how you should do your job correctly :2 cents:

Tjeezers 01-14-2020 09:18 AM

they can hide it under the idea of "Fuck a Fan"

TheLegacy 01-14-2020 09:35 AM

Always heard and believe - you pay a hooker to leave.

nikki99 01-14-2020 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 22593970)
Always heard and believe - you pay a hooker to leave.

this is correct :2 cents:

slapass 01-14-2020 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NatalieK (Post 22593842)
understanding what you mean, but still completely different...

a prostitute is paid to have sex, sex only. You go to a prostitute and pay 20 for a blow job or 50 for a fuck. An escort, you pay for the time, 100 for half hour and maybe sit and chat, another person may want sex, but then itīs escorting, escorting that persons wishes.

Also, pornstars have to be actors or actresses, at no point, unless itīs a gangbang or a dogginer session video scene. However, many of my vids have a story to them, therefore, I have to act, this would not be done with prostitution.

You do not get asked for a drink or dinner as a prostitute, however, as an escort, I do :thumbsup

Intimacy just makes it better for some folks but the number paying for conversation versus intimacy with their sex is small. Sorry, i think you are splitting hairs.

slapass 01-14-2020 11:24 AM

I know a ton of escorts who would never do porn. So they see a difference. Public versus private.

Paul Markham 01-14-2020 12:37 PM

Why are you guys so interested in what prostitution is?

If you have sex or provide sexual services for payment, you're a prostitute. Whether you're walking the streets offering $$40 blowjobs or going for dinner and fucking the person at the end for money. Does that include posing nude alone of with someone else? I think it does. I don't think any of that is wrong.

It beats working 9-5 in a dead-end job for low wages, being unemployed, being a student and living off tinned beans. Better than meeting someone on a one night stand and fucking them, sometimes in the street or back of a car. I've done both back in the day.

The one thing the moralists don't offer is a good job with decent wages. Maybe if they did that fewer people would be tempted into the sex trade.

Sites like Adultwork.com have 16,000 advertised. That, if I did my sums right, is 4% of all the population. 1-25 not counting streetwalkers and upper-end girls, just look at their prices starting at $160 for an hour for girls short drive from the centre of London. Girls in Czech are priced about the same.

artwilliams 01-14-2020 12:41 PM

It's really about escorts doing porn now.


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