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billywatson 01-30-2020 04:04 PM

Any constructive ideas on getting traffic to...
 
So I opened my own clips store for my content, and cause I own the content and it's my merchant account, I can keep my prices pretty low. Thought that might help, but nope. Site isn't doing anywhere where I thought it would be by now. Any ideas?

LegitClips - Because... FUCK Memberships!

Thanks in advance!

The Porn Nerd 01-30-2020 04:15 PM

Hey your site looks awesome!! Weird it's not doing well....how are you getting your traffic? The site is great so maybe your prices are too low? Remember you never want to devalue your content. If you price it at $0.99 then a potential buyer may think it's not worth much since it's so cheap.

But I'd say it's probably a traffic issue at this point since the site itself looks great. Getting any Google love?

billywatson 02-03-2020 05:36 PM

Thanks for the kind words...and yea, I'm worried the prices are too cheap. I'm going to review my analytics with my developer this week.

doeser 02-03-2020 05:50 PM

Just tried to put the first description (banana) into google, got the 17 min video in HD for free at xhamster .
Then there is the profile with hours more from the same model, free.
Even in your description at the 2nd line you mention pornhub, it's there as well, 17min HD, free.
Why pay?

King Mark 02-03-2020 05:58 PM

For a easy traffic idea I'd say open little satellite shops at the clip stores that already have a ton of traffic like manyvids, iwantclips, clips4sale, onlyfans, etc and funnel them in. You can promote your stuff on a bunch of NSFW subreddits too.

billywatson 02-03-2020 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by doeser (Post 22603855)
Just tried to put the first description (banana) into google, got the 17 min video in HD for free at xhamster .
Then there is the profile with hours more from the same model, free.
Even in your description at the 2nd line you mention pornhub, it's there as well, 17min HD, free.
Why pay?

It's the promo clip -- censored pop, abbreviated BTS. And links back to my pay site.

billywatson 02-03-2020 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Mark (Post 22603858)
For a easy traffic idea I'd say open little satellite shops at the clip stores that already have a ton of traffic like manyvids, iwantclips, clips4sale, onlyfans, etc and funnel them in. You can promote your stuff on a bunch of NSFW subreddits too.

I do have a MV as well as a C4S; "funnel in" how? I'm curious...

and THANKS for the response!!

Reddit is tricky. They kill spam; however, I am posting in some of the bigger subs.

CaptainHowdy 02-06-2020 05:07 PM

Bump for billy . . .

fuzebox 02-07-2020 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 22603895)
censored pop

I have always believed that producers overvalue the "pop shot" in relation with the rest of the clip. Not all surfers "need" to see another man ejaculate to achieve orgasm themselves :2 cents:

Fenris Wolf 02-07-2020 05:47 AM

I can help promote your site on Reddit. I am always looking for new content to mix in with my own stuff. Email in sig.

billywatson 02-07-2020 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 22605617)
I have always believed that producers overvalue the "pop shot" in relation with the rest of the clip. Not all surfers "need" to see another man ejaculate to achieve orgasm themselves :2 cents:

Hmmm...agree to disagree. They don't call it "the money shot" for nothing. I mean I agree with you to a point.

OneHungLo 02-07-2020 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 22603896)
I do have a MV as well as a C4S; "funnel in" how? I'm curious...

and THANKS for the response!!

Reddit is tricky. They kill spam; however, I am posting in some of the bigger subs.

Are you allowed to promote (ie watermark your videos with your paysite) on manyvids, iwantclips and Clips4sale?

EddyTheDog 02-07-2020 03:17 PM

The site looks great - My only complaint is that the 'Select Options' buttons don't align - That's just my OCD kicking in though!..

If any of the talent has an Onlyfans, Fancentro, ModelCentro etc fan base you could target them by using their name on social media and even on your site, you might pick up some her fans via SEO/SERPS - You should probably ask the model first though.....

If any of the content is exclusive then you could post on twitter something like "Do you love Jane Doe? - Exclusive gagging video only available here" - That sort of thing - Also those surfers are used to one off micro-payments...

That's actually a good idea for any of you guys with exclusive content - Especially if you have kept it off the tubes.....

billywatson 02-07-2020 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22605889)
Are you allowed to promote (ie watermark your videos with your paysite) on manyvids, iwantclips and Clips4sale?

Yea, I'm on 2 of those platforms.

billywatson 02-07-2020 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 22605898)
The site looks great - My only complaint is that the 'Select Options' buttons don't align - That's just my OCD kicking in though!..

If any of the content is exclusive then you could post on twitter something like "Do you love Jane Doe? - Exclusive gagging video only available here" - That sort of thing - Also those surfers are used to one off micro-payments....

Thanks for the kind words...just noticed the misaligned buttons! Gah! How'd I miss that?! And yea, it's all my content, and thanks for the tip! Much appreciated. :thumbsup

movieguy 02-09-2020 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 22605898)
The site looks great

Why is everyone saying this?

Some good content, but:

- The site looks like a blog, not a clip store.
- There's too much white space in the center content area.
- the video titles on the homepage and options take up a third of the space
- thumbnails for categories take up a third of the page

Design Changes:
- You're a clip store. A user landing on the homepage should see a wall of thumbnails of the content.
- keep the content headers/titles smaller. emphasis on the images
- make the wall of thumbnails a nearly endless scroll (again, show abundance of content)
- remove the thumbnails for the categories. Put them as just text on the side, or in a separate menu or page
- enlarge the search box to take up full width. Emphasize the search. Your tagline, "fuck memberships", emphasizes a feature of paysites that many users may not consider a disadvantage. You should instead focus on your advantage. For example, "find your perfect porn video. Only pay one price. Keep forever". Then go into detail about this advantage halfway down the page after a few rows of thumbnails. Remove the carousel
- make a section listing models

TRAFFIC:
- post shorter sample to tubes, and pre-post/roll all clips with a quick 15 second promo of your store
- clip stores thrive on two things: niches and girls.
- try to target an underserved niche and market there
- have your girls promote your clip store with regular pings on twitter and such

OneHungLo 02-09-2020 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by movieguy (Post 22606601)
Why is everyone saying this?

Some good content, but:

- The site looks like a blog, not a clip store.
- There's too much white space in the center content area.
- the video titles on the homepage and options take up a third of the space
- thumbnails for categories take up a third of the page

Design Changes:
- You're a clip store. A user landing on the homepage should see a wall of thumbnails of the content.
- keep the content headers/titles smaller. emphasis on the images
- make the wall of thumbnails a nearly endless scroll (again, show abundance of content)
- remove the thumbnails for the categories. Put them as just text on the side, or in a separate menu or page
- enlarge the search box to take up full width. Emphasize the search. Your tagline, "fuck memberships", emphasizes a feature of paysites that many users may not consider a disadvantage. You should instead focus on your advantage. For example, "find your perfect porn video. Only pay one price. Keep forever". Then go into detail about this advantage halfway down the page after a few rows of thumbnails. Remove the carousel
- make a section listing models

TRAFFIC:
- post shorter sample to tubes, and pre-post/roll all clips with a quick 15 second promo of your store
- clip stores thrive on two things: niches and girls.
- try to target an underserved niche and market there
- have your girls promote your clip store with regular pings on twitter and such

Damn that's a hell of a review. How much do you charge for reviews?

Colmike9 02-09-2020 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22606626)
Damn that's a hell of a review. How much do you charge for reviews?

He gave a ton of good free advice.

OneHungLo 02-09-2020 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 22606741)
He gave a ton of good free advice.

Indeed. :thumbsup

Probably some of the better advice I've seen given here.

Zuzana Designs 02-09-2020 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by movieguy (Post 22606601)
Why is everyone saying this?

Some good content, but:

- The site looks like a blog, not a clip store.
- There's too much white space in the center content area.
- the video titles on the homepage and options take up a third of the space
- thumbnails for categories take up a third of the page

Design Changes:
- You're a clip store. A user landing on the homepage should see a wall of thumbnails of the content.
- keep the content headers/titles smaller. emphasis on the images
- make the wall of thumbnails a nearly endless scroll (again, show abundance of content)
- remove the thumbnails for the categories. Put them as just text on the side, or in a separate menu or page
- enlarge the search box to take up full width. Emphasize the search. Your tagline, "fuck memberships", emphasizes a feature of paysites that many users may not consider a disadvantage. You should instead focus on your advantage. For example, "find your perfect porn video. Only pay one price. Keep forever". Then go into detail about this advantage halfway down the page after a few rows of thumbnails. Remove the carousel
- make a section listing models

TRAFFIC:
- post shorter sample to tubes, and pre-post/roll all clips with a quick 15 second promo of your store
- clip stores thrive on two things: niches and girls.
- try to target an underserved niche and market there
- have your girls promote your clip store with regular pings on twitter and such

This is all great advice

billywatson 02-13-2020 09:31 PM

Thanks you for the advice! I really appreciate this!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by movieguy (Post 22606601)
- The site looks like a blog, not a clip store.
- There's too much white space in the center content area.
- the video titles on the homepage and options take up a third of the space
- thumbnails for categories take up a third of the page

Design Changes:
- You're a clip store. A user landing on the homepage should see a wall of thumbnails of the content.
- keep the content headers/titles smaller. emphasis on the images
- make the wall of thumbnails a nearly endless scroll (again, show abundance of content)
- remove the thumbnails for the categories. Put them as just text on the side, or in a separate menu or page
- enlarge the search box to take up full width. Emphasize the search. Your tagline, "fuck memberships", emphasizes a feature of paysites that many users may not consider a disadvantage. You should instead focus on your advantage. For example, "find your perfect porn video. Only pay one price. Keep forever". Then go into detail about this advantage halfway down the page after a few rows of thumbnails. Remove the carousel
- make a section listing models

TRAFFIC:
- post shorter sample to tubes, and pre-post/roll all clips with a quick 15 second promo of your store
- clip stores thrive on two things: niches and girls.
- try to target an underserved niche and market there
- have your girls promote your clip store with regular pings on twitter and such


billywatson 02-14-2020 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 22606741)
He gave a ton of good free advice.

He sure did. See...GFY still is "worth it". lol

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

KyleC 02-15-2020 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 22601920)
So I opened my own clips store for my content, and cause I own the content and it's my merchant account, I can keep my prices pretty low. Thought that might help, but nope. Site isn't doing anywhere where I thought it would be by now. Any ideas?

LegitClips - Because... FUCK Memberships!

Thanks in advance!

Have you had anyone review it via a newsletter like Xbiz?

wankawonk 02-16-2020 01:32 AM

I could be wrong, but I'm not sold on the business model--a clip store with traditional-style pornstar porn.

You need whales, right? and those aren't so difficult to find on iwantclips/clips4sale/etc where the content is very unique/unusual and hard to find elsewhere and users get addicted to specific studios.

But why would a whale spend big $$ on pornstar porn when he can spend $30 on 1 month of brazzers and download enough content similar to yours to last a lifetime.

It's just a tough sell.

Roald 02-16-2020 01:51 AM

What is confusing it the tag line you're using.

Fuck memberships, ok so to me as Joe blow the surfer that would mean that it's free! Nice!!! Oh wait, I have to pay for clips? What? Regular pornstar clips? Meh, back to Pornhub....

Focus on what you do, not on what you aren not.

billywatson 02-17-2020 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KyleC (Post 22609592)
Have you had anyone review it via a newsletter like Xbiz?

I have not!

billywatson 02-17-2020 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wankawonk (Post 22609632)
I could be wrong, but I'm not sold on the business model--a clip store with traditional-style pornstar porn.

You need whales, right? and those aren't so difficult to find on iwantclips/clips4sale/etc where the content is very unique/unusual and hard to find elsewhere and users get addicted to specific studios.

But why would a whale spend big $$ on pornstar porn when he can spend $30 on 1 month of brazzers and download enough content similar to yours to last a lifetime.

It's just a tough sell.

Hmmm...interesting point. How are you defining "pornstar porn"? If Riley Reid in the hand job scene, it's pornstar porn? But yea...I think I see where you're going with your point.

billywatson 02-17-2020 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 22609634)
What is confusing it the tag line you're using.

Fuck memberships, ok so to me as Joe blow the surfer that would mean that it's free! Nice!!! Oh wait, I have to pay for clips? What? Regular pornstar clips? Meh, back to Pornhub....

Focus on what you do, not on what you aren not.

A LOT of people hate the recur, and those are the buyers we're after. But yea, I'm rethinking our tag line for sure. THANKS!!

SBJ 02-17-2020 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wankawonk (Post 22609632)
I could be wrong, but I'm not sold on the business model--a clip store with traditional-style pornstar porn.

You need whales, right? and those aren't so difficult to find on iwantclips/clips4sale/etc where the content is very unique/unusual and hard to find elsewhere and users get addicted to specific studios.

But why would a whale spend big $$ on pornstar porn when he can spend $30 on 1 month of brazzers and download enough content similar to yours to last a lifetime.

It's just a tough sell.

clip sales have really increased in the last few years cause people don't want to buy memberships but might be willing to buy single clips of what they want to see.

The post that gave you a ton of advice was very good advice. Esp, where he said, have the girl post to their social media accounts. They have the fanbase.

wankawonk 02-18-2020 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 22610420)
clip sales have really increased in the last few years cause people don't want to buy memberships but might be willing to buy single clips of what they want to see.

The post that gave you a ton of advice was very good advice. Esp, where he said, have the girl post to their social media accounts. They have the fanbase.

Yeah you're right, people don't want to buy memberships because they're worried about whether it might be next-to-impossible to cancel their subscription. (it usually is.)

OP could definitely get some good sales from people who want premium HD content but don't want to subscribe to a site like brazzers where once you give them your CC number they're gonna make it damn near impossible to unsubscribe.

OP, perhaps this is an angle/value-proposition that you could push hard--instead of "fuck memberships", maybe try to communicate: "worried about rebills? scared your membership will be impossible to cancel? Buy cheap premium HD clips here!". (But find a better more succinct way to say it :))

Still, I think it'll be hard for OP to find whales.

wankawonk 02-18-2020 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 22610416)
Hmmm...interesting point. How are you defining "pornstar porn"? If Riley Reid in the hand job scene, it's pornstar porn? But yea...I think I see where you're going with your point.

Yeah riley reid giving a handjob is "pornstar porn". She's a pornstar and some producer paid her a flat fee to come on set and act out a scene.

It's a lot different than a girl posting clips to clips4sale where she gives you jerk-off instructions. Or an amateur making fetish content with her boyfriend and posting to iwantclips.

The feel of it is completely different. The content on your site, it's all made by producers paying girls flat fees to come on set and act out a scene.

billywatson 02-26-2020 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wankawonk (Post 22610895)
The feel of it is completely different. The content on your site, it's all made by producers paying girls flat fees to come on set and act out a scene.

Actually, it's all made by me. lol. But thanks for your input!!

nickey1952 02-27-2020 05:30 PM

Big bump for Billy Watson

OneHungLo 02-27-2020 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 22615566)
Actually, it's all made by me. lol. But thanks for your input!!

I think he means the content of a clip for sale type site is organic vs what you're offering i.e. professionally produced content.

Zuzana Designs 02-29-2020 06:58 PM

This one deserves a bump for bizz!

cezar78 03-01-2020 07:10 AM

Nobody pays for porn, it can be found for free everywhere.

Markul 03-01-2020 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cezar78 (Post 22617662)
Nobody pays for porn, it can be found for free everywhere.

Of course. OnlyFans, ManyVids and Chaturbate makes no money at all *eye roll*


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