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Rochard 01-30-2020 04:55 PM

Age Verification Companies Seek Millions Over Abandoned UK Porn Block
 
Seems like some companies invested a lot of money into age verification and now.... They are pissed and want their money back.

https://www.ynot.com/age-verificatio...ns-porn-block/

King Mark 01-30-2020 05:01 PM

No sympathy from me...

EddyTheDog 01-30-2020 05:47 PM

At least one setup posted here a lot - Myself and many others told them that it wouldn't happen - The writing was on the wall - Did they listen? - No!.. -

CaptainHowdy 01-30-2020 06:32 PM

It was a gamble, innit?

blackmonsters 01-30-2020 06:47 PM

Yep, I got paid to install this stuff and people were ready for this to go forward.
So I know first hand that people lost money on this mess.

:2 cents:

ilnjscb 01-30-2020 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by King Mark (Post 22601958)
No sympathy from me...

I have some no sympathy as well

lock 01-31-2020 12:19 AM

Age verification will make a come back again there will be more movements against adult.

Paul Markham 01-31-2020 03:20 AM

Age verification would be a boost for the industry.

celandina 01-31-2020 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22602078)
Age verification would be a boost for the industry.

....just another type of censorship UK is well known for...:2 cents: Am glad it "dumped".

Paul Markham 01-31-2020 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22602178)
....just another type of censorship UK is well known for...:2 cents: Am glad it "dumped".

So you think children should be allowed to access hardcore porn.

the Shemp 01-31-2020 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22601953)
Seems like some companies invested a lot of money into age verification and now.... They are pissed and want their money back.

https://www.ynot.com/age-verificatio...ns-porn-block/

more shattered dreams ...

Rochard 01-31-2020 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22602184)
So you think children should be allowed to access hardcore porn.

No, of course not.

But I also know for a fact that nothing is going to prevent kids from seeing porn. They will walk through fire to see porn.

More than one of us - who post on this board - started in the adult community while they were still minors. One of them was seventeen and driving a damn Ferrari.

Paul Markham 02-01-2020 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22602450)
No, of course not.

But I also know for a fact that nothing is going to prevent kids from seeing porn. They will walk through fire to see porn.

More than one of us - who post on this board - started in the adult community while they were still minors. One of them was seventeen and driving a damn Ferrari.

Any other laws you don't like because kids will "walk through fire" to break?

shimmy2 02-01-2020 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22602450)
More than one of us - who post on this board - started in the adult community while they were still minors. One of them was seventeen and driving a damn Ferrari.

ahhhh the late 90s.... xpics, gammacash, click thru calvin, ynot, toplists, popups, spam, 56k modem money

ZENRA 02-01-2020 01:33 PM

I wonder what was going on behind the scenes of all the companies working on this technology when the news that the UK wouldn't be using it after all hit.

wankawonk 02-01-2020 01:40 PM

yeah, no sympathy

your business model is to profit off of bullshit government regulation supported by almost no one besides vote-hungry politicians and paul markham? you deserve to lose milions

Grapesoda 02-02-2020 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by lock (Post 22602046)
Age verification will make a come back again there will be more movements against adult.

just wait until political verification :2 cents:

Grapesoda 02-02-2020 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22602450)
No, of course not.
They will walk through fire to see porn.

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celandina 02-02-2020 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22602184)
So you think children should be allowed to access hardcore porn.

It is called a " parental control and proper sex education" not censorship ! I still remember the " video nasty" in the 90ties where some of my early movies had to be edited...

....I also remember attending a seminar in Cannes, where some cunt from BBFC was attempting to explain why Piero Polo Passolinis' "Salo" was banned in UK for a general release but available to rent to BFI members. Her justification was ( and 20 years later I am paraphrasing) : " General population does not have the level of intelect and education as BFI members to be able to separate art from reality" . In other words " fuck the lumpenproletariat".

So whose side are you on?

Tasty1 02-02-2020 08:49 AM

didn't read that they called it off. Good news, at least for me :)

MaDalton 02-02-2020 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22602184)
So you think children should be allowed to access hardcore porn.

coming from the guy who was literally waiting for girls to turn 18 and make them look younger on purpose that is quite amusing

but at least you stay true to your role as the biggest hypocrit of this place



PS - before Paul starts throwing pointless bullshit at me: age verification only works if everyone has to implement it and this can only happen if Visa, Mastercard and all other payment providers agree on the same rules. It works in Germany but they forgot that there is an internet outside of Germany. And I keep repeating this for about 15 years now.

PPS: no sympathies from me either

george MH 02-05-2020 01:29 PM

Age verification is just a step on make the access into porn harder for kids... it cant prevent them ... at least its not recommended to make this easy for under 18.

emmasexytime 02-07-2020 04:27 AM

it could never have worked.

I like there aim though as it would be a good thing to implement

Tjeezers 02-07-2020 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22602184)
So you think children should be allowed to access hardcore porn.

:error I would expect a comment like this from someone who is not in the industry.

adultinnovation 02-07-2020 04:52 AM

Aren't you supposed to have a 18+ warning page on every porn site?

EddyTheDog 02-07-2020 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by adultinnovation (Post 22605678)
Aren't you supposed to have a 18+ warning page on every porn site?

As far as I know it's not actually a legal requirement in most jurisdictions - Most people will enter a site via a deep link anyway...

Paul Markham 02-07-2020 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22603103)
It is called a " parental control and proper sex education" not censorship ! I still remember the " video nasty" in the 90ties where some of my early movies had to be edited...

....I also remember attending a seminar in Cannes, where some cunt from BBFC was attempting to explain why Piero Polo Passolinis' "Salo" was banned in UK for a general release but available to rent to BFI members. Her justification was ( and 20 years later I am paraphrasing) : " General population does not have the level of intelect and education as BFI members to be able to separate art from reality" . In other words " fuck the lumpenproletariat".

So whose side are you on?

The side of the industry. Free porn has ruined the porn industry and any measures to restrict are great in my opinion.

As for the last bit about access to porn by the masses. That is an old thing to be going on about. In the trial of Lady Chatterley's Lover, the judge said on October 21, 1960. “Is it a book that you would even wish your wife or your servants to read?” The question put to the jury by Crown prosecutor Mervyn Griffiths-Jones became a classic statement of sexism and snobbery in the judiciary.

Paul Markham 02-07-2020 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22603154)
PS - before Paul starts throwing pointless bullshit at me: age verification only works if everyone has to implement it and this can only happen if Visa, Mastercard and all other payment providers agree on the same rules. It works in Germany but they forgot that there is an internet outside of Germany. And I keep repeating this for about 15 years now.

PPS: no sympathies from me either

A ban by Visa and Mastercard would work to keep porn for only those who can pay for it. It won't be easy but how are the remaining payment processors going to support the millions of free porn clips and scenes available on Tubes?

Paying $1 a day isn't much to access porn, get rid of the expensive affiliate system that supports and promotes free porn and prices can topple and production budgets soar. You had to change jobs because the old one was killed off.

I made my money before porn was so free. :thumbsup :thumbsup :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 02-07-2020 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 22605671)
:error I would expect a comment like this from someone who is not in the industry.

Answer my question.

Do you think children should be allowed to access hardcore porn?

Saying that some will walk through fire, some will find a way and leaving to the parents isn't an answer. Because using those excuses and applying them to other crimes allows people to break them. So why is porn so different in the opinion of people putting up all the porn accessible to children. It can't be that this method of distributing porn is making you rich, there was more money to be made before it was freely available to anyone with a phone.

celandina 02-07-2020 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22605708)
The side of the industry. Free porn has ruined the porn industry and any measures to restrict are great in my opinion.

As for the last bit about access to porn by the masses. That is an old thing to be going on about. In the trial of Lady Chatterley's Lover, the judge said on October 21, 1960. “Is it a book that you would even wish your wife or your servants to read?” The question put to the jury by Crown prosecutor Mervyn Griffiths-Jones became a classic statement of sexism and snobbery in the judiciary.

My very point....:thumbsup " Can't show this shiit to our servants" :1orglaugh

cordoba 02-09-2020 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22602571)
Any other laws you don't like because kids will "walk through fire" to break?

It's funny, your first comment was - 'age verification would be good for the adult community' (in other words, pornographers would make more money).

Then you accuse anybody against the bone headed age verification laws of wanting children to access pornography.

How about we all care about our livelihoods, and we all care about the welfare of children, and some of us just think that these age verification laws were clumsy and ineffective and an excuse for broader censorship, and others (like you) think they'd be an opportunity for the adult industry to be more profitable?

If you really wanted to stop children accessing pornography badly enough, you would make pornography illegal and put anyone posting 'indecent' material online in prison for 20 years, as the likes of China and Saudi Arabia do. Anything other than that is a middle-ground, and we're entitled to discuss what that middle ground should be.

cordoba 02-09-2020 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22605709)
A ban by Visa and Mastercard would work to keep porn for only those who can pay for it. It won't be easy but how are the remaining payment processors going to support the millions of free porn clips and scenes available on Tubes?

Paying $1 a day isn't much to access porn, get rid of the expensive affiliate system that supports and promotes free porn and prices can topple and production budgets soar. You had to change jobs because the old one was killed off.

I made my money before porn was so free. :thumbsup :thumbsup :1orglaugh

The 80's and early 90's. I remember them well.

I was a teen myself, and I remember buying the likes of Razzle and Escort every month when I was 15 or 16 in UK newsagents. Did you shoot for them? I remember going into sex shops in Germany and not even encountering a second glance as me and my classmates bought hardcore VHS tapes. Maybe some of yours.

Would have been a good time to be a pornographer, especially if you had no concerns about teens getting hold of your material.

Tjeezers 02-10-2020 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22605711)
Answer my question.

Do you think children should be allowed to access hardcore porn?

Saying that some will walk through fire, some will find a way and leaving to the parents isn't an answer. Because using those excuses and applying them to other crimes allows people to break them. So why is porn so different in the opinion of people putting up all the porn accessible to children. It can't be that this method of distributing porn is making you rich, there was more money to be made before it was freely available to anyone with a phone.

Asking me this means you underestimate my intelligence.


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