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nextomic 02-16-2020 06:23 PM

ElevatedX vs KVS
 
I'm looking for a bit of GFY wisdom. I am not a developer, just the guy that needs to buy the right things and know just enough to hire a developer.

So what I am trying to decide on is a CMS for adult paysites that is robust, relatively easy to use, and has decent features built in or easily integrated. Been looking at ElevatedX and KVS.

I am looking for:
Good security (videos and site)
Simplicity in content management
Easily editable templates
Permissions by content and pages for 2 levels of member subscription (standard & premium)
NATS integration
Video encoding
Token payment system for tipping models

I also need an e-commerce solution integrated into our sites.

For ElevatedX I like that it has some features such as VOD built in. I don't like that the back end seems to have a steeper learning curve, and it doesn't seem to support using a CDN or multiple servers. For KVS I like that the back end is a bit more user friendly, and it has built in token payment system.

I have been having sites built in Wordpress but not super happy going that route again.

What do you all think? I've read through the forums about this stuff but most relevant posts are from years ago...

Zuzana Designs 02-16-2020 06:32 PM

KVS templates are not easy to work with and it's not cheap to hire a developer to work on it if you can even find someone. I would go with ElevatedX but that's just my opinion. They have amazing support and run a lot of adults big brands and websites.

We have 3 premade templates you can see that use ElevatedX.

Template #01: $499

- Tour: ElevatedX Template 01 - Elevated X, Inc. CMS Demo
- Members: http://demo.zuzanadesigns.com/members_01/ (zuzana / designs)


http://www.zuzanadesigns.com/blog/wp...2018/04/01.jpg

Template #02: $199

- Tour: ElevatedX Template 02 - Elevated X, Inc. CMS Demo
- Members: http://demo.zuzanadesigns.com/members_02/ (zuzana / designs)


http://www.zuzanadesigns.com/blog/wp...2018/04/02.jpg

Template #03: $699

- Tour: SITENAME - Elevated X, Inc. CMS Demo
- Members: http://demo.zuzanadesigns.com/members_03/ (zuzana / designs)
- VOD: http://demo.zuzanadesigns.com/vod_03/ (zuzana / designs)

http://www.zuzanadesigns.com/blog/wp...mo-750x427.jpg

http://www.zuzanadesigns.com/blog/wp...nk-750x424.jpg

http://www.zuzanadesigns.com/blog/wp...mo-750x433.jpg

http://www.zuzanadesigns.com/blog/wp.../04/home-1.jpg


Feel free to send me an email anytime to sarah [at] zuzanadesigns.com and I can guide you in the right direction if you need anything custom or have any questions with ElevatedX.

RyuLion 02-16-2020 07:34 PM

What's KVS?

I just ran into this one: Features | ClickcastX 5.0 - Adult CMS
It has a camming plugin

We use Elevated X its very easy to use (clubdom.com)

nextomic 02-16-2020 07:40 PM

Hi!

KVS is Kernel Video Sharing

EddyTheDog 02-16-2020 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyuLion (Post 22609990)
What's KVS?

I just ran into this one: Features | ClickcastX 5.0 - Adult CMS
It has a camming plugin

We use Elevated X its very easy to use (clubdom.com)

https://www.kernel-video-sharing.com/en/

I actually thought it was just a tube script - I suppose you could use it as a paysite manager...

The Porn Nerd 02-16-2020 08:42 PM

I run a huge paysite Network and I have checked out all kinds of CMS options, including every big one on the market. But since I have a developer and a web designer I do not need the zillions of options many CMS products offer. So I am currently working on my own custom CMS and this is what I suggest for you.

However: if you want your sites to look like everyone else's, and to 'set 'n forget' your sites, then perhaps a professional CMS is what you need. But remember there is usually a monthly cost associated with most CMS products so if you do the math it's actually cheaper in the end to build a CMS for yourself with just the Features you need as opposed to have every option under the sun which you most likely will never use.

Have luck! :)

adultinnovation 02-17-2020 02:00 AM

Elevated X is way too expensive. Just make a simple custom cms.

trevesty 02-17-2020 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs (Post 22609971)
KVS templates are not easy to work with and it's not cheap to hire a developer to work on it if you can even find someone. I would go with ElevatedX but that's just my opinion. They have amazing support and run a lot of adults big brands and websites.

We have 3 premade templates you can see that use ElevatedX.

Template #01: $499

- Tour: ElevatedX Template 01 - Elevated X, Inc. CMS Demo
- Members: http://demo.zuzanadesigns.com/members_01/ (zuzana / designs)


http://www.zuzanadesigns.com/blog/wp...2018/04/01.jpg

Template #02: $199

- Tour: ElevatedX Template 02 - Elevated X, Inc. CMS Demo
- Members: http://demo.zuzanadesigns.com/members_02/ (zuzana / designs)


http://www.zuzanadesigns.com/blog/wp...2018/04/02.jpg

Template #03: $699

- Tour: SITENAME - Elevated X, Inc. CMS Demo
- Members: http://demo.zuzanadesigns.com/members_03/ (zuzana / designs)
- VOD: http://demo.zuzanadesigns.com/vod_03/ (zuzana / designs)

http://www.zuzanadesigns.com/blog/wp...mo-750x427.jpg

http://www.zuzanadesigns.com/blog/wp...nk-750x424.jpg

http://www.zuzanadesigns.com/blog/wp...mo-750x433.jpg

http://www.zuzanadesigns.com/blog/wp.../04/home-1.jpg


Feel free to send me an email anytime to sarah [at] zuzanadesigns.com and I can guide you in the right direction if you need anything custom or have any questions with ElevatedX.

ElevatedX and KVS both use Smarty. The only difference is you can literally do anything with KVS that you could want, and with ElevatedX, you're fairly limited - that's because of feature set, though, not templating. :thumbsup

OP, you can use either and likely be happy. Would you rather pay $495 one time and never pay again or pay around that per month as well as for support in many cases?

Zuzana Designs 02-17-2020 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 22610100)
ElevatedX and KVS both use Smarty. The only difference is you can literally do anything with KVS that you could want, and with ElevatedX, you're fairly limited - that's because of feature set, though, not templating. :thumbsup

OP, you can use either and likely be happy. Would you rather pay $495 one time and never pay again or pay around that per month as well as for support in many cases?

It's been awhile since we took on a KVS job so maybe they updated. I just know they had a LOT of template files and it was very time consuming. I'll have to look into their system again.

NatalieMojoHost 02-17-2020 06:07 AM

We have detailed expertise in providing infrastructure for these CMSs. ElevatedX is built for paysites, while for KVS it's an add-on. That said, both can be used and the decision is really up to you. Mechbunny has a paysite plugin now as well. Whichever CMS you choose, reach out to discuss hosting and I'll set you up with an affordable solution that fits your needs.

czarina 02-17-2020 07:35 AM

ElevatedX all the way. It is robust, reliable, and the price of $150 a month ends up being REALLY cheap when you consider how many man-hours you will save.
Go with ElevatedX! By the way, they don't use Smarty anymore, it's regular PHP now.

nextomic 02-17-2020 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22610010)
I run a huge paysite Network and I have checked out all kinds of CMS options, including every big one on the market. But since I have a developer and a web designer I do not need the zillions of options many CMS products offer. So I am currently working on my own custom CMS and this is what I suggest for you.

However: if you want your sites to look like everyone else's, and to 'set 'n forget' your sites, then perhaps a professional CMS is what you need. But remember there is usually a monthly cost associated with most CMS products so if you do the math it's actually cheaper in the end to build a CMS for yourself with just the Features you need as opposed to have every option under the sun which you most likely will never use.

Have luck! :)

Thanks for the insight and sounds like you are in a lucky position. I'm looking at a custom solution with a development company, but it's a big investment... more than I can justify right now. And to manage a project like that, even if I did have a developer I trust, is scary as I just don't have the background in all the technologies. I was hoping to find something pre-made like ElevatedX but that will allow a decent amount of front end design changes so I end up with a site that doesn't look like everyone else... but at a reduced cost from custom.

nextomic 02-17-2020 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 22610100)
ElevatedX and KVS both use Smarty. The only difference is you can literally do anything with KVS that you could want, and with ElevatedX, you're fairly limited - that's because of feature set, though, not templating. :thumbsup

OP, you can use either and likely be happy. Would you rather pay $495 one time and never pay again or pay around that per month as well as for support in many cases?

Hey that's interesting! I understood the opposite... the ElevatedX had more robust features. Or maybe you mean something different when you say "feature set"?

Miguel T 02-17-2020 06:39 PM

Paysite: ElevatedX
Tube: KVS / Mechbunny

gnawledge 02-17-2020 07:53 PM

I have used PORNCMS, played with Elevated X, KVS, Wordpress.

Elevated X is quality if you have all the functions like landing pages, and billing all setup. Dicking around is the last thing you want to do when you can have software to do the trivial shit for you.

I used KVS as a tube site and love them. You can set it up as a pay site if you get the premium. Which I trust them for assistance in your needs.

If you want to stand out, use Zuzanna for your templates and stuff.

Zuzana Designs 02-18-2020 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miguel T (Post 22610358)
Paysite: ElevatedX
Tube: KVS / Mechbunny

And you are an ElevatedX Ninja :winkwink:

ryanservergeekk 02-18-2020 07:50 AM

At M3Server we have many clients using both scripts.

KVS and ElevatedX work with us to ensure setups go smoothly.

With KVS we have a ready to go out of the box sever platform. No hassles and a 40% recurring discount.

Proud to be the leading partner of KVS.
https://www.kernel-video-sharing.com/en/partners/

Matyko 04-14-2020 05:59 AM

KVS is the best CMS I ever used. We love it from Day 0 and can only recommend it.

But as Zuzana says: it is hard to find coders/designers for it.

Zuzana: I just sent you an inquiry a few hours ago regarding KVS coding/development..

plsureking 04-14-2020 08:59 AM

it probably tells you something that neither of those guys stopped by in 2 months to plug their shit :1orglaugh

all i see is people trying to make money off your choice (3rd party vendors).

never heard of KVS and i've been selling porncms for almost 2 decades. mechbunny and i are the only survivors still hanging around this desolate industry..

:pimp

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