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pm2000 04-07-2020 08:10 PM

charge backs
 
I'm curious as to why. Since this corona virus came out i have noticed a rise in charge backs,
what is up with that???

adultchatpay 04-07-2020 09:29 PM

Did the credit card company in the US waived their monthly dues?
Our banks here moved all loans (house, car, credit cards, etc) to one month maturity.
So we are not paying anything this month. If my car loan matures December, it will be moved to January.

The Porn Nerd 04-07-2020 09:52 PM

People have more time at home with nothing to do but check bank accounts, etc.
Maybe worried about paying more important bills like rent, etc.

Hinc 04-08-2020 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22643658)
People have more time at home with nothing to do but check bank accounts, etc.
Maybe worried about paying more important bills like rent, etc.

Sounds spot on...sitting at home checking, worried about finances and the job = cutting anything that could be cut (and getting caught with some dubious posts on the statement now that wifey has time to check)

Major (Tom) 04-08-2020 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22643658)
People have more time at home with nothing to do but check bank accounts, etc.
Maybe worried about paying more important bills like rent, etc.


I think so too.

ZENRA 04-08-2020 12:44 PM

I don't think the current situation will change much in terms of friendly fraud CB's.

InfoGuy 04-08-2020 04:04 PM

A large portion of increased chargebacks probably come from people who willing spent when they were employed, but reassessed the situation after they unexpectedly lost their jobs and now how to pay for life's necessities. I see this as a temporary bump due to those who are newly unemployed and not a long term trend with increased fraud.

xxxclusive 04-09-2020 09:23 AM

Since I announce clearly in member area that chargebacks will be investigated and thoses credit cards blacklisted by all billers and other websites, I have no issues with them at all.

OneHungLo 04-09-2020 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxclusive (Post 22644674)
Since I announce clearly in member area that chargebacks will be investigated and thoses credit cards blacklisted by all billers and other websites, I have no issues with them at all.

Just a simple warning eliminated all your chargebacks?

pornguy 04-09-2020 10:32 AM

Sadly vias and mc allow this even though its against the rules and obvious.

we have not seen a rise in CB's yet. but we have noticed join and cancel go up some

also a climb in traffic from china.

pornguy 04-09-2020 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22644685)
Just a simple warning eliminated all your chargebacks?

If it were only so easy.

OneHungLo 04-09-2020 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 22644717)
If it were only so easy.

haha, I know right.

How have your sales been over the past month or 2? Up? Down?

emmasexytime 04-10-2020 04:29 AM

no cb's here

celandina 04-10-2020 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxclusive (Post 22644674)
Since I announce clearly in member area that chargebacks will be investigated and thoses credit cards blacklisted by all billers and other websites, I have no issues with them at all.

Verotel bans automatically any CC requesting charge-back :thumbsup and I believe other processors do also.

OneHungLo 04-10-2020 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22645331)
Verotel bans automatically any CC requesting charge-back :thumbsup and I believe other processors do also.

Are you sure? I mean knowing all the shady cross-selling out there that have the customer being billed $240 on a $1 trial, you'd think banning the buyer would be a bad thing for all of us.

celandina 04-11-2020 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22645408)
Are you sure? I mean knowing all the shady cross-selling out there that have the customer being billed $240 on a $1 trial, you'd think banning the buyer would be a bad thing for all of us.

We run a VOD site, so we do not have any "re-billing" issues, yet a few years ago we had a bad guy who bought and watched a movie and a few days later we get a notice for chargeback. We went to Verotel and tried to dispute the chargeback and we were told: "The guy will not bother you again he has been banned".

To bad Jason is gone he could have clarified this better.

ZENRA 04-11-2020 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22645932)
We run a VOD site, so we do not have any "re-billing" issues, yet a few years ago we had a bad guy who bought and watched a movie and a few days later we get a notice for chargeback. We went to Verotel and tried to dispute the chargeback and we were told: "The guy will not bother you again he has been banned".

To bad Jason is gone he could have clarified this better.

Standard practice for any biller is to ban the details associated with someone who charges back. That's probably what Verotel meant when they wrote that to you.

celandina 04-12-2020 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ZENRA (Post 22646172)
Standard practice for any biller is to ban the details associated with someone who charges back. That's probably what Verotel meant when they wrote that to you.

I guess that was what it meant. :thumbsup

xxxclusive 04-12-2020 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22644685)
Just a simple warning eliminated all your chargebacks?

Not all. There are basically 2 types of chargebacks, one issued by victims of cc fraud, against them one can't do much.

Secondly the smart-arses who join, download content and issue chargeback after to have a free lunch. They think twice if 30 bucks refund are worth to get cc blocked everywhere and have to get a new one.

pm2000 04-12-2020 08:44 PM

thanks for the info

InfoGuy 04-13-2020 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxclusive (Post 22646782)
Not all. There are basically 2 types of chargebacks, one issued by victims of cc fraud, against them one can't do much.

Secondly the smart-arses who join, download content and issue chargeback after to have a free lunch. They think twice if 30 bucks refund are worth to get cc blocked everywhere and have to get a new one.

Virtual credit card numbers are disposable and easy to get, so blacklisting a specific card number would not be as effective as blacklisting a specific name and address.

Black All Through 04-13-2020 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22643658)
People have more time at home with nothing to do but check bank accounts, etc.
Maybe worried about paying more important bills like rent, etc.

Makes perfect sense!

celandina 04-14-2020 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black All Through (Post 22647381)
Makes perfect sense!

If you get the goods you ordered, then charge back is stealing. Makes perfect sense only to criminals. :2 cents:

Tjeezers 04-14-2020 12:32 PM

A membership with a sex site is like a relationship with someone.
when you have it all the time in front of you it loses her value and you want to dump it.

pm2000 04-14-2020 07:14 PM

You guys are so right, do you think that once the government opens its economy again, we are gonna have a huge positive gain?

george MH 04-15-2020 01:47 PM

Good to know .. thank you all


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