CentroProfits/FanCentro/ModelCentro affiliate program = joke
 

So cause I'm using FanCentro links for a website from time to time I thought it will be not a bad idea to use their affiliate program. So I registered to CentroProfits and read how this works and also speak with the support a bit cause I got a few technical questions. Anyway you read always:

Affiliate Commission
Earn 25% Revshare with FanCentro
Earn 50% Revshare with ModelCentro

So far so good...until u read that:

*Revshare applies to all initial sales and rebills

This means, if you send someone to their site and he spend money the first time - your will get your %. But after 72h you will get nothing from this user (except he clicks again a link from u and come to the site, then the 72h window starts again).

So for example: You send them a rich guy who register and look a bit around. After 1 week he decide spending money for something....now what will you get? Right, ZERO.

Imagine this guy is spending a shitload of money over the time for years and you get nothing cause on CentroProfits it only count if someone comes with your link and purchase in the next 72h.

I really think I found the baddest affiliate program ever. I mean there is no reason to send spending people to them.

Even a 10% lifetime revshare of each user register with your link would be much much better. I really can't understand how they think it's in someway good for affiliates.

The funny thing is, they write and want contact you everytime, skype, telegram, mail...Hey let's talk! Let's start making money! Can we help you to send more traffic to us....bla bla bla

It's so *** greedy from them and they threat you like their best friend and partner. But in fact you send them users nearly for free.

On top of that: Not all models on their website are useable to promotion, cause they have to open their account for affiliates. After a bit research 80% of the models I want link to don't have enabled the option so I can't make a reflink to their profile.

I'm really happy that I'm sending my rich horny guys to a lifetime revshare program instead.

:2 cents:

The logic behind this is when a company is substantially large, these 'surfers' will most likely find their way there, with or without you, a large portion of them. You are simply directing them at that given time. There is a reason most companies are dropping their affiliate program or didn't even decide to create one.

Think about it this way, if youre promoting Google Search, do you think you should get a net revenue for life when you give them a convenient link for something on there? FanCentro is one of the few big companies in this market. These types of platforms are the future of porn. Surfers are finding their way to these select platforms, from models.

It would be a different story if a specific affiliate had a specific client base that were solely big spenders and could provide more than redirecting general traffic.

I am not taking away from what affiliates do but it would be a biased opinion or an assumption to think an affiliate program is needed (you dont see the numbers) or if you warrant a percent of what a user spends when the platform pays a fortune to further develop features inside to increase earnings of the users they do obtain. What people spend once inside is simply due to the development of said company.

A platform makes a couple dollars from an affiliate program sale, say 10 percent processing, 50 percent to an affiliate, 80 percent of the remainder to the model. the cost of developing and managing said platform... the platform gets about 3.60 from a 20 dollar sale and happens to be the only one with a massive cost. also take into account the majority of people don't rebill. so what they developed inside to make more money from the odd user who stays is making up the difference of paying people out a very high rate

Models need X dollars to justify doing what they do. Perhaps there lies the problem that nobody truly profits as they once did.

The platform prices things in order to maintain the business model. If they give you more, the business isn't there to promote.

I say this as somebody who was a very large affiliate for over a decade

are u saying that they set cookies to 3 days or not paying lifetime revshare?

If they don't need an affiliate program - why they run one (And why they promote it so heavly? )
If the cut is so big, why not use 5 or 10% instead and offer it for lifetime for each user register through u? (That's standard imo)

If I could, I would create something like Fancentro / OnlyFans - I think too these kind of websites will have a good future.

Both. If someone register through you and spend money after 4 days, you will get nothing.

Well if 5-10 percent ends up resulting more money out for the company, that would result in a lower profit margin and less likely they can continue to grow and if youre not growing your platform, its dying. It would probably result in not being able to offer models as much. The money has to come from somewhere. These company's aren't riding into the sunset with everybodys money, they're massive companies with highly intelligent people who need to be paid. The owners make enough to justify what they've done for the industry and hundreds of thousands of models as well as providing affiliates with something to promote

Why do they still build one if they dont need one? Well because its still atleast profitable enough to create. Could they exist without one, yes. If it becomes too expensive, it will close.

Also all that is a bit moot because honestly, most affiliates prefer immediate payment vs investing themselves. Not many people have the business savvy/long term thinking you clearly have.

You don't get what I mean. Why offer a greedy program where u laugh about your stupid affiliates instead of just don't doing it?
If you offer a partner program, you should do it thinking about the word PARTNER.

I don't understand why u defend such things. I don't want know how many people loose their potential earnings cause they fall for this instead of sending their traffic to a program that benifits in a fair way.

50 % REVSHARE PROGRAM!!!
But only for a few days:thefinger

How do you extrapolate that out of:


*Revshare applies to all initial sales and rebills

We live and we learn.

I talked with the support to understand how it works. They give me all that informations and while I was friendly, but honest you feel the staff don't know what to say against.
I told them that this is a very bad situation for the affiliates and that's why I will not put energy in promoting that. After that they try to contact me on many different places like skype or telegram or mail. I said i will not promote them and they run after it.

Maybe im a bit too angry here and i dont want attack any employe - I just can't understand how companies like this can offer such stupid programs.
Give me fancentro and i will fuck Onlyfans just with a working affiliate program :1orglaugh

Agreed 3 day cookie is a joke

I disagree, the surfers will certainly most likely NOT find their way there: affiliates push traffic to models websites through the ModelCentro program. These model websites aren't known to the public and thus the CentroProfits folks do benefit from the help of affiliates regardless of CP alleged size.
Of course they do, otherwise they wouldn't do it, would they?


affiliates -> not known models sites -> CentroProfits


For that reason the analogy with Google isn't pertinent.

Sorry youre correct, I am moreso speaking of FanCentro. And modern platforms that have open model discovery and the model is promoting herself on social media. I supposed it is different when we're speaking of models who are still trying to operate small paysites. I don't really think of paysites when speaking of their company as its an outdated business model and not necessarily the area theyre pushing most of their attention to I imagine

So both FanCentro and OnlyFans have shitty affiliate programs? That's disappointing :(
FanCentro only pays on what happens during the first 72 hours and OnlyFans only pays a commission for referring influencers (not on regular users). And then you have nudiez.tv who don't even support deeplinking and offer no support at all.

Sounds to me like there's a market for a site with a good affiliate program!

They intentionally fucked me on a large content deal with JAV/Hentai content years ago. Fuck all these guys (especially Stan) and avoid like the plague.

The (graveling) voice of experience . . .

this thread is long overdue, thanks for starting it, i appreciated the idea of those networks, but was wondering about bad conversions compared to ccbill sites and stopped pushing traffic
however it took me some wasted time to find that out, hope it will help other webmasters to avoid them

subscriptions fees have remained the similar price for years, like before 2000, anywhere from $10 to $30 a month. Everyone taking their chunk, the affiliate, the model and the company, in this case FC, other bills have gone up over the years, utilities, food, all living costs. Then we have a huge amount of models, amateurs, homemade vids, being shot daily and uploaded to millions of models pages. So while the income is low, it´s pushed down eve more because of the saturation of models, or girls, probably who will not stay around, not for more than a year :upsidedow

Is it greed or just survival?

a huge amount, probably 90% of people purchase there and then, some go back, usually a day later...

only a handful of people go back months and months later.



You´re missing out on a lot of sales on a lot of sites, this is your income :helpme


I´m a model and producer, a content provider. So my job is to produce content, this I do on a daily basis. I make selfie clips, selfshot photo sets, we shoot BTS hi quality photo sets and clips, then a video for my timelines and official updates. My point is, i don´t just produce content for one site or one program...

you´re an affiliate, a webmaster, your pages, your sites should be promoting all sites and occasionally, to push some sites and models, you update your sites and pages with this model or program and push it hard, saying join today and get 5% off, then using your affiliate code in CentroProfits, you set 5% discount off your side.

If a few sales slip through the net, don´t look like they have joined and you didn´t get paid, they were the sales that gave the model you´ve been making money on, the inspiration to continue!

We all need support and I know you can make a decent living from your traffic sales on Fancentro and model centro subscriptions & clip sales

According to the Affiliate Agreement it is even less than 4 days:

"The Company will not pay the Affiliate a commission if a Promotional Link directs a Consumer to a Model Site, but that Consumer leaves that Model Site and returns to that Model Site over 24 hours later to buy a Model Offering without going through the Promotional Link again."

Source: https://centroprofits.com/affiliate-agreement
Paragraph 6.3 (b)

So if I understand this correctly, even if a user registers through your link right away you won't make anything after 24h. Pretty much what the OP was saying.

The live support I talked with told me 72h - that's why I say that.

And a big lol - I read here and I got a mail....I made a sale on there. 10$ haha
Ironic

Want to laugh more?

They also reserve the right to CHARGE the affiliate for inactivity:

In the above link to the Affiliate Agreement, look for the section named "Account Inactivity; Inactive Account Maintenance Fees"

So, even if they keep making profits off of members you have sent to them, they can charge you if you don't bring in new customers. There goes your $10 down the toilet :upsidedow

Not yet, but soon..... :thumbsup

cookie monster

Correct. Mostly Twitter.

It is not impossible that Twitter bans adult at some point (by region or globally).

72 hours is a bit short. 30-days is standard for an affiliate cookie, unless you are trying to pull some shit..

this new fetish social site https://fetishmodelnetwork.com/ does lifetime affiliate credit. affiliate cookies last 30-days. if a member joins with your link within 30 days, they pay 10% for anything that member buys - for life. not just on that incoming sale. that's your member for life..

pretty cool concept..

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Pretty standard for all programs.80-90% first sales don´t stay long.10-20% generates rebills for months, years... Most money i make is from rebills.

3 day coockie is a joke but don´t hate the player.Hate the game.

Better you push their livecams.They did a show for your user ?You got paid..
End of story.

CentroProfits platform changes
 

Hello Ladies and Gentlemen

I'd like to introduce recent CentroProfits changes (most of them are based on your feedback):

- Cookie lifetime has been increased from 3 days to 30 days
- FanCentro referral program is now available for all affiliates
- Removed that silly paragraph from Terms (paragraph "Account Inactivity; Inactive Account - --- Maintenance Fees". Obviously it had been put there by mistake, and there was not a single penalty applied during CentroProfits existence)
- Added Sign Up event to S2S postbacks
- Added Free Trial event to S2S postbacks
- (Minor one) Made FanCentro default product in all views and filters

These are the changes that have already been released. There are much more yet to come, so stay tuned! And let me know if you will notice anything else that you find questionable

Awesome news Paul! :thumbsup

Nice changes!

i opened a website after setting it all up, i activated the affiliate program and was pushing for affiliates, 2 months later they sent an email, they want me to fill out profiles for all my models, i thought this must be wrong and left updating for a month, they deactivated the affiliate program,

what a waste of time

Nice to know at least one prog is listening...

really did you check the cookie?

Can you elaborate? I checked it just now and it's 30 days as specified above.

great to be part of the great changes...

wtf fc & mc :thumbsup

it only took you 5 months :thumbsup

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90 days minimum is ok

If you have enough quality traffic, they are open for other deals... just saying

Default terms is for those that accept them, just like sticker-prices on cars

Why should you get 25% to 50% for sending general traffic for the lifetime of that surfer using the models and site names and their samples?

There are so few big players in this market and the sites and models can generate far better traffic than any affiliates sending traffic unless the traffic is found only by the affiliate and he is the only sender of the traffic. Buying traffic could be more profitable and less expensive, real marketing is the key.

You're not a partner in anything but expect to be paid as one!!!! How much time and oney did you invest?

The amount affiliates were paid fucked this industry in a massive way. Look at what a site has to pay for.

Hosting
Staff
Processing
Design and programs
Content

Unless top dollar was paid the only sites that managed to get good content, the thing your sales depend on, was what was paid to content producers. Paying 50%+ strangled the amount that could be paid for content, staff, hosting, design.

Now let's look at what affiliates have to pay for. Someone tell us this because I struggle to think of one substantial weekly payout other than buying a computer which they probably have and weblink.

To send men looking for porn to sites with porn. This industry would have been a pot of gold paying out 10% with no less traffic, less free and more sales. :mad:

Why does lockept want to promote specific models?

Because they have a great presence already, because he can use their names for SE purposes, because they convert better. But he still expects to get the same percentage as he would promoting lesser models.

Im digging up this thread cause iv been looking to promote them. It is still saying 24hrs as above to this day. I would only be interested in pushing them if you got lifetime on the rebills. Does anyone know if this has changed?

Yes, you'll get paid for the rebills.

CentroProfits models have to opt in the promotion program. In other words, they want to be promoted by CP affiliates. The rest is irrelevant.

GFY delivers again :thumbsup

Hello Nathalie

I appreciate your answer.

You should also know that whether in France or Switzerland, models and customers love your work.

We quote you as an example to each new candidate because for us you are a serious and reliable model.

Are you using the cookie to bind a customer to an affiliate or are you using the cookie for the actual rebills? These are 2 different models. The former is lifetime revshare without cookie the latter is revshare for 30 days if the customer doesn't clear cookies.

ex: a visitor clicks on a link. cookie is planted. visitors signs up straight away but first spending occurs 31 day from now. Is there a commission?

No. That's the poin why I made this thread a time ago.

We all know that many spenders start spending weeks or months after there free registration. In the end you just give this site possible whales who will be active for years and you get 0 or a little bit for the things that happen in the first 30 days.

Their program is a complete joke. Everything else than a lifetime % of the user is complete useless.

it gets worse

I was hoping it had changed and you now got the user for lifetime