Cam-Whitelabel > Original website!
 

If you send your traffic to the original site instead of an own whitelabel, you losse tons of money

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most whales create multiple accounts (mostly for every camgirl they have a crush on and spend a lot of money). A typical behavior.
If they register a new account, they do it without going over your link they use for there first sign up.
So you will loose them/will miss a big part of their spendings.

On a WL a whale register his new account via the url he knows, so these new accounts will be tracked by you too.


That's not what I say - that's what the camsites employees say.

So make a WL and thank me later. :thumbsup

What about affiliates who are trying to make a large volume of regular spenders, not whales, would that work, too? :upsidedow

That makes no sense. Think about it again, you only aim for poor people or what? It doesnt matter what u want aim for, there are always big and small spenders and nobody would say no to get a whale.

Also this can happen to all kind of spenders, also the small ones. But it happens more ikely with whales cause they have so much to spend, they can afford support multiple models.

Yeah, we all know that the whales do multiple accounts, don't do ref#s, targeting them with cascades works because of this in some verticles, etc. But, I'm just talking about the average spender, which there are a lot more of, not poor people.

I just haven't met too many people who are successful with WLs. :upsidedow

mywhitelabel.com ----> Unknown site, very little surfer trust, not likely to take that card out.

bigsponsor.com----> Big well known cam site with lots of surfer trust, much more likely to take that card out.

I will send to the sponsor, but I am particular as to the sponsors I use.

Just imho of course.

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I am making much more money on whitelabel.

You think like all users would know the website and just decide to register cause u send them via a link.
If this person already known the plattform, he would be already registered before. So imo u can expect, that the most of sign ups didn't know the website/brand before.

Sure maybe the original brand is more likely to give trust, but is the outcome bigger than not loosing the spenders cause they open a new account without your tracking easy?

How often we read about spenders "disappear" on sites like chaturbate? Mostly we think it's a model let a good spender reregister via her affiliate link. But what if all these affiliates who cry just loosing the spenders, cause they open alone a new sccount without any tracking.?


I can't give an answer, i can't say what works better for me, cause i never runned a wl and was promoting the original website in a equal level and the same time.

I send traffic to the sponsor directly and also to my WLs, and I can say that my old WLs that have some history behind are converting much better than the sponsor itself! And I am not losing spenders even on CB where people complains all the time for losing spenders and whales!

Of course, this is just my experience yours may be different!

If any of you guys are interested in running White Label with BongaCash, please, hit me up, will be glad to discuss (contacts in sig) :)

Sure the people who send their traffic to the main site didn't want to hear that.

Whitelabels are key for cams!!

Here is one we built on labeldollars.com

https://jerkmycock.com

Making almost 10K a month off my whitelable with about 10k in traffic per day.:winkwink:

White labels are great. Sure. We have partner branded offers by us and marked as white labels in the offers list. Does really work better than promoting the original site, indeed. Good point. Cheers!

Well, guess I might have to start sending some traffic to white labels.

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The secret best way to make a lot of money with whitelabels is to use the link in my sig, tho. :2 cents::winkwink:

Lol.

But u still recommend using the original site to promote?


It was your moment to share helpful infos instead of just spamming.

Can Bongacash confirm that many spenders open different accounts for spending to different models?
Stripchat said it is a quite common behavior from whales so a WL avoid to "loose" the tracking.

Either way, my link works for that, too. :upsidedow

But, PM me and I'll explain why, but I don't want to say why I prefer sending to the original site publicly because of reasons lol.

They are still a thing for sure! Actually, since we get good deals from programs because of quality and quantity, knowing the program owners, etc, usually we cut better deals than programs offer to regular affs and we have cases of being able to pay more than the original advertiser. Happens even for white labels and cam offers. It is better for everyone this way. :thumbsup

whitelabels are useful for co-branding by adding a cam solution to your website and promoting your brand. Even better: blacklabels!
If you promote models it is not a good choice because they want to be associated with the main sites.

Whitelabels are also good to circumvent cookie saturation since cookies are domain based.

I think sponsors ultimately want end users to move to the main brands so if you push to the main sites you increase retention.

Having several accounts is a common thing, so White Label is definitely a way to go :)

That was helpful, thank u.

Yeah, I said that a lot when it was my job, too.. :upsidedow

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Explain what you mean. It makes no sense, what a website have from forcing their employees to say wl run better? Explain pls. Or do you say again you dont want explain, just make random replies to spam around? Hmm? :upsidedow :upsidedow

Oh I definitely have a good reason why I'm saying it, but I'll let you figure it out because a company on here would be mad if I explained why. :upsidedow

I've been preaching white labels for 15+ years for cams, its where all my cams income comes from. I may have seo landing pages, but they all eventually lead to my white label. I have hundreds of domains, and if for some reason a program isn't performing or closes or stops paying on time. I can quickly shift that traffic over to another program's white label and as long as I keep the branding similar, the surfer will often continue spending on the new program.

Really, that's surprising. Most of the big cam players I've networked with over the years make the substantial portion of their cam revenue from WLs. They may generate traffic from other means, but the surfer ends up on a WL. I've known some streamate affiliates that do over 7 figures a year on their WL.

This conversation makes me feel entirely inadequate :(

Again. Say something that gives a point to the discussion, but don't want explain for "reasons". :upsidedow :upsidedow

Stop trolling pls. I even don't think your promoting cams for users. :2 cents:

I have a contract that says that I can't discuss business things from that company publicly x-years after leaving, not sure how legit it is though since we're in different countries but I don't want the trouble. But PM if you'd like and I'll tell you. There are 2 main reasons and one isn't obvious.

But... You might be right about me not sending users, I get Chaturbate checks every 2 weeks steady, but almost all of that is from webmaster referrals, which is why I'm posting in this cam related thread... :upsidedow

Well, see it as helpful info. It's never too late to change that.
Before I was on cb and I always thought, yes sending to the main brand is the better option. But after realizing the fact that spenders often do multiple accounts, it's quite logical that I would losse these (or a part) cause they reregister on that domail without my trackingcode.

If you run a WL you can exclude this option and fear imo. The user will reregister always under your domain and so under your tracking too.



Alright. You can tell me if you want to. But u have to understand that always saying something without any explaination and put it as facts, but don't want discribe why - always sounds weird. And gfy is full of people who even don't read the thread and just spam around. (I still don't know if here any mods active?)

I'm highly interested what's this unkown factor we miss with our experience abaout WL and original sites.

I'm not bullshitting. I have never sent a single visitor to Chaturbate, and they paid me $150k so far. Yeah, I did a lot of work long ago, but now it's just an automated money machine. Did I mention weed is legal here? I just got high for the 1st time legally yesterday. That was pretty cool, lol. Oh yeah, I also went straight up gangster last week, and got my first dedicated server, lol :pimp

https://i.imgur.com/tFNgKMi.jpg

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How to Make a Chaturbate White Label Website :2 cents:

I agree that white labels are not for everyone. Unless a high quality domain name is used for a white label, sending traffic to the primary site is probably better for most affiliates. Use of high quality domains helps convey trust to surfers. But most affiliates use low quality domains with poor keywords, are too long, contain numbers, contain hyphens or are not .com. It's no surprise that they have little to no success with white labels.

I don't know who said you were bsing, I had absolutely no doubt you were telling the truth.

I would trust pretty much anything you or Andreweb says to be true.

I think I have said it before but I will say it again. Congrats on having the hard work pay off :thumbsup

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When we compare WL with the original site, I assume we see a top level domain and logo as basic.

Sure a shitty url would be less successful - but thats also the main reason.

Ok, now what? :upsidedow

https://allfree.chaturbate.com/

Also, I noticed that at least when using this subdomain, I'm auto-logged in with my regular chaturbate.com signin, so no multiple signups are going to be happening there, unless they have to be logged out and then have to create unique usernames for every time he signs up, and then not notice that it's all just CB...

If you are already logged in to chaturbate then it will have you logged in since it is a chaturbate sub domain.

If you are not already logged in, it should not "auto-log" you in.

I tested before I wrote that to be sure.

If the wl is on a custom domain then, even if you are logged in to cb, you will have to login to the whitelabel.

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Chaturbate affiliate sites are co-branded and not white labels. A true white label would only show the affiliate's brand.

I once ran an ad network campaign splitting evenly between main site and wl: traffic sent to the main site overwhelmingly converted compared to the traffic sent to wl.

People here might say that their wl works but who's to say it would't work better with sending traffic to the alternative.

Define overwhelmingly. 3:1? 5:1? 10:1?

On a scale of 1-10 with 1 being the worst and 10 being the best, what was the quality of the domain name you were using for your white label or co-brand?

I ran this test 4 years ago. I still have spenders on cb to date from that experiment. I had no wl spenders.

Maybe the test was inconclusive given the sample I used or maybe the domain name was not good like you said (rating this is too subjective). I am only sharing a personal experience.

Also, I didn't mention what sponsor it was. Some wl might convert better than others.

i cunt a4da whitelabel... :(

I have also read others saying it is better to send to the original then the wl

I was merely explaining to him why he was showing as logged in. It was not auto logging him in, he was already logged in.

I don't think my post in any way was addressing whether CB was a true WL or not so I am kind of unsure why you posted that back at me.


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My bad, that's more what I meant where it's logged into the WL when I'm logged into CB already, not auto.

What if I make https://expensive.chaturbate.com/ and tell people to pay instead of just saying everything is free and hoping that they know what tipping is? Would that work? :upsidedow

Also, for people that do WLs, do you do media buys, tabs on blogs/tubes, SEO, forum posting, etc? Just curious

A cam rep should just show us the data so we can stop fighting :upsidedow

That would be helpful, yes.
So far I only got the information from different cam supports, that spenders are often open multiple accounts (without getting forced by models, just cause they want it). With this logic a WL prevend from loosing the tracking. But if it makes an WL overall better, I can't say.

I know that people will often buy multiple dating memberships, but this thread is the first I've heard about multiple accounts on cam sites. If I was a whale and I wanted to support multiple girls, I'd use the same cam platform to keep my tokens in one place and to not have to switch between accounts/multiple tabs/etc.

But you don't want your crush knows that u are supporting others in the same way, you want the model thinks your 100% on her. That's why they use multiple accounts.