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amacontent 01-11-2021 03:43 AM

Porn Hub cuts payouts 60 percent
 
Well is this the beginning of the end for us content partners. All of a sudden my payout along with a buddy who informed me is cut 60 percent. This gonna hurt as I rely on this.

todservices 01-11-2021 04:31 AM

sorry to hear that mate :(

they will still need content tho right ?

NatalieK 01-11-2021 04:37 AM

adapt or die...


wondering why your paysites aren´t your reliable income? This could be a sign of good things, if PH is struggling, our paysites could see an increase in sales :thumbsup

Brit in Cambodia 01-11-2021 07:16 AM

They're doing an amazon

become the mainstream platforms make record profits then fuck affiliates and content producers as hard as possible.

celandina 01-11-2021 07:22 AM

Old movie saying:

"Shit in, shit out" :thumbsup

This will never change !

CurrentlySober 01-11-2021 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22803875)

"Shit in, shit out" :thumbsup

https://scx2.b-cdn.net/gfx/news/hire...like_thumb.jpg

Miguel 01-11-2021 08:56 AM

If they can't process sales and rebills through VISA / MC
it's reasonably that revenue falls.

The Porn Nerd 01-11-2021 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NatalieK (Post 22803812)
adapt or die...


wondering why your paysites aren´t your reliable income? This could be a sign of good things, if PH is struggling, our paysites could see an increase in sales :thumbsup

This is already happening. :thumbsup

DWB 01-11-2021 10:06 PM

You partnered with the company that fucked the entire industry over and crippled so many producers and pay sites, and now you're shocked that they are fucking you once again?

Some people never learn.

Major (Tom) 01-11-2021 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 22804544)
You partnered with the company that fucked the entire industry over and crippled so many producers and pay sites, and now you're shocked that they are fucking you once again?

Some people never learn.

Pretty much. Poetic at the very least

Matyko 01-12-2021 01:15 AM

DWB posting here again! :O :pimp *thumbs up*

PorcoRosso 01-12-2021 01:35 AM

Is that an official news?
Just want to make sure, rumors spread fast...

Major (Tom) 01-12-2021 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 22803793)
Well is this the beginning of the end for us content partners. All of a sudden my payout along with a buddy who informed me is cut 60 percent. This gonna hurt as I rely on this.

Just go back to selling exclusive content again, (to everyone)

eric_wahlberg 01-12-2021 01:54 AM

You are not the only one. Everyone is facing pay cut. Time to save money and invest at right place.

Matyko 01-12-2021 07:20 AM

We are managing the PH Premium for a veteran industry client and while the account shows the ~same earnings since September 2020, the payouts are lower with approx 60% indeed, and the projected payout is even lower. :(

TaiGhost 01-12-2021 08:46 AM

We have a content partners program. Please contact me via support@tokyohotcash if you are interested.

amacontent 01-12-2021 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaiGhost (Post 22804742)
We have a content partners program. Please contact me via support@tokyohotcash if you are interested.

don't think I can trust someone with 78 posts yet.

amacontent 01-12-2021 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 22804605)
Just go back to selling exclusive content again, (to everyone)

Yeah Im moving to Vegas to be around plentiful amount of talent to do just that.

TaiGhost 01-12-2021 09:13 PM

Our NATS program is less than 1 year old that is true. However, the company has been in operation since 2005. Before 2020 our focus was marketing to Japan, China and Korea and wherever their citizens may reside in the world.

At the moment we work with more than 90 studios from Asia, US and the EU.

Anyone here with good content is welcome to consider us.

Grapesoda 01-12-2021 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 22805010)
Yeah Im moving to Vegas to be around plentiful amount of talent to do just that.

thought you already had?

JSWENSON 01-13-2021 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22803998)
This is already happening. :thumbsup

And if your geocities sites are making money then everyone has to be.

celandina 01-13-2021 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 22804605)
Just go back to selling exclusive content again, (to everyone)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

PorcoRosso 01-13-2021 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 22804699)
We are managing the PH Premium for a veteran industry client and while the account shows the ~same earnings since September 2020, the payouts are lower with approx 60% indeed, and the projected payout is even lower. :(

Ok wow. What are the reasons behind that?
Because seing how fierce the competition is becoming, I would have expected the opposite move from PH...

CaptainHowdy 01-13-2021 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 22804544)
You partnered with the company that fucked the entire industry over and crippled so many producers and pay sites, and now you're shocked that they are fucking you once again?

Some people never learn.

Look what the cat brought in . . .

The Porn Nerd 01-13-2021 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 22805161)
And if your geocities sites are making money then everyone has to be.

Nah I've monetized MySpace and Friendster so I'm good. :thumbsup

Roald 01-13-2021 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PorcoRosso (Post 22805310)
Ok wow. What are the reasons behind that?
Because seing how fierce the competition is becoming, I would have expected the opposite move from PH...

Cause there are no new sales coming in.

Quote:

The Viewshare rate is calculated from monthly sales of memberships in Pornhub Premium. With the loss of credit card processing in early December unfortunately the rate has reduced significantly.
We are working to restore processing as soon as possible and return to rates similar to before.

ravo 01-13-2021 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 22805443)
Cause there are no new sales coming in.

Indeed. And, I would have expected the rate to fall by more than 60%.

The Porn Nerd 01-13-2021 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravo (Post 22805521)
Indeed. And, I would have expected the rate to fall by more than 60%.

It will next month.

amacontent 01-13-2021 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaiGhost (Post 22805110)
Our NATS program is less than 1 year old that is true. However, the company has been in operation since 2005. Before 2020 our focus was marketing to Japan, China and Korea and wherever their citizens may reside in the world.

At the moment we work with more than 90 studios from Asia, US and the EU.

Anyone here with good content is welcome to consider us.

Shoot me a message on Skype tell me what you can do for me... I have a huge library

amacontent 01-13-2021 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22805115)
thought you already had?

I was working on it just didn't find right situation but i will be there by June 1

Brad Mitchell 01-13-2021 04:59 PM

My theory is the 75% of the content they just deleted they weren’t paying out shit on and now all the content they have is verified partner content.. so they have to do this to normalize things. Honestly they have so much traffic they don’t much have to care how happy their partners are, probably.

Brad

Pipecrew 01-13-2021 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 22805740)
My theory is the 75% of the content they just deleted they weren’t paying out shit on and now all the content they have is verified partner content.. so they have to do this to normalize things.
Brad

Those were my thoughts also

Matyko 01-14-2021 01:55 AM

The owner of the program I mentioned is wondering if he should pull the content and demand the same money as before - as he does not have jackshit to do with their underage/stolen content/visa/mc problems. So why would he get less money for his content? At first, I thought he is not right, but thinking of such a huge company: I don't think they could go broke by paying their remaining content partners the same way as before. Their legit content partners have nothing to do with the problems that are totally independent of them. So why should they suffer?

MCFan 01-14-2021 08:05 AM

why
 
Why would you sell trough PH when you have lots of content sites paying up to 90%?

eurorevenuecom 01-14-2021 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCFan (Post 22806017)
Why would you sell trough PH when you have lots of content sites paying up to 90%?

Those sites usually don't have the volume, nor good geos. PH is a no brainer due to their popularity with surfers, and the ease of process.

Matyko 01-14-2021 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurorevenuecom (Post 22806018)
Those sites usually don't have the volume, nor good geos. PH is a no brainer due to their popularity with surfers, and the ease of process.

this. :2 cents:

Icantthinkofaname 01-14-2021 01:21 PM

Anyone else not get paid from PH this month?

amacontent 01-14-2021 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icantthinkofaname (Post 22806216)
Anyone else not get paid from PH this month?

I haven't

dillonaire 01-14-2021 02:26 PM

Time to open an OnlyFans

Brian mike 01-14-2021 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dillonaire (Post 22806260)
Time to open an OnlyFans

check those guys:

Your Fans + your content = $ -> IsMyGirl - InkedGirl - IsMyGuy

I'm using them for a few models and it worked :thumbsup

Matyko 01-15-2021 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 22806226)
I haven't

The program I mentioned just received the wire: $8k instead of $20k for December.
The owner says - and now I totally agree with him : with the billions they have made and should have some stockpiled, they should have covered their content partners for a month
or two. Just as a show of thanks and good faith to those that made them their billions. :2 cents: :pimp

Interesting additional info: in November this channel had 660k video views. In December 690k. So the number of video views even increased.

NALEM 01-15-2021 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 22806664)
The program I mentioned just received the wire: $8k instead of $20k for December.
The owner says - and now I totally agree with him : with the billions they have made and should have some stockpiled, they should have covered their content partners for a month
or two. Just as a show of thanks and good faith to those that made them their billions. :2 cents: :pimp

Interesting additional info: in November this channel had 660k video views. In December 690k. So the number of video views even increased.

Matyko, are you managing Dan's content?

Matyko 01-15-2021 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NALEM (Post 22806677)
Matyko, are you managing Dan's content?

No. We manage a few Premium accounts, but this specific I don't wanna name in public, it is a channel in top 20 of PH premium

movieguy 01-15-2021 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dillonaire (Post 22806260)
Time to open an OnlyFans

Definitely good idea. Trickier for paysite owners because the platform and their paperwork is designed more for models.

Speaking of models: the ones on PH lost revenue too, and most dont know, and are not involved, in pornhub's history on the industry. Pornhub has been a great platform for them so PH is not all bad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 22806664)
The owner says - and now I totally agree with him : with the billions they have made and should have some stockpiled, they should have covered their content partners for a month
or two. Just as a show of thanks and good faith to those that made them their billions. :2 cents: :pimp

I also agree with you and the owner. Although mindgeek has debt payments that probably come first, the tubes are operated as a separate entity and should have built up profit for situations like this.

This is definitely not some normalization or scam pornhub is pulling on content partners. They had 1 million premium members in 2019, likely more today. That's a loss of at least $10 million per month. As cynical as some of you may think, that's too much money to ignore and they are fighting hard to get processing back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 22805933)
The owner of the program I mentioned is wondering if he should pull the content and demand the same money as before

Perfectly reasonable action. I do caution that pulling your content, can negatively affect your standing with the algorithm so that when everything goes back to normal, you may not recover the ranking and featured traffic as before. The algorithm prefers consistency, favouriting, and playlist additions. You wipe that out if you pull the content. I would suggest staying for a couple of months and if pornhub does not resolve the issue, that's when you should think about pulling the content.

In the meantime, there are other platforms.
Xvideos is investing more into marketing and promoting Xvideos RED. Their traffic is up.

PornDan recommends xhamster, but xhamster's contract was bogus the last time I checked. It had some clause saying they could do whatever they wanted with the content including resell it. Ask that to be removed before you sign with them.

I run FIT18 btw, and my best friend used to be in the top 5 regularly. My other friend was regularly the #2 channel.

Grapesoda 01-15-2021 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 22805713)
I was working on it just didn't find right situation but i will be there by June 1

Im stuck in the mojave, the daughter won't move due to baby daddy and parents, gonna start a weed farm :2 cents:


you still riding?

amacontent 01-15-2021 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22806807)
Im stuck in the mojave, the daughter won't move due to baby daddy and parents, gonna start a weed farm :2 cents:


you still riding?

YES SIR , just added Rhinehart slip on pipes and bike sounds like a brand new bike . Only $950 installed.

amacontent 01-15-2021 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icantthinkofaname (Post 22806216)
Anyone else not get paid from PH this month?

My payout came today.

The Porn Nerd 01-15-2021 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 22806845)
My payout came today.

Was it 60% less?

Porno Dan 01-15-2021 03:51 PM

First, let me point one of the very glaring incorrect statement PornHub never made any payments nor had an add share program for producers, PornHub Premium (PHP) did

Some people here do not quite understand how PHP works, it is a paid members area completely separate from PornHub which is free and advertising supported.

In PHP the payout went from $30 for 1,000 views to $12 for 1,000 views which is of course to be expected since they could not process credit cards for the members for over 2/3 of the month

In all likelihood, PHP will be rebranded now that is spun off from PornHub as they are operating as two completely separate sites now.

I am sure that PHP will get processing back from Visa and Mastercard - since that site never allowed anonymous uploading - and once it does it will go back to its normal payouts

Icantthinkofaname 01-15-2021 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icantthinkofaname (Post 22806216)
Anyone else not get paid from PH this month?

Got mine but it was less. Anyone else putting all their vids as free instead of premium now? Such a pain in the ass. Not sure if I should just leave it alone and see what happens or at least try to make a little money till they figure things out.


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