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TheSenator 01-16-2021 04:43 PM

How to Track CCBill Affiliate Link Cookies?
 
I am trying to find software to track my CCBill affiliate ID all the way through to the sign page.

I tried Chrome Web Dev tools but it does not show my affiliate ID.

Does anyone have a solution?

NatalieK 01-16-2021 04:49 PM

click the sign up page after following through the site from your link or banner, then search your affiliate code in their page code. It should be in the coding..

use ctrl and f , or goto the setting top right on google chrome and use find, add your affiliate code

TheSenator 01-16-2021 04:51 PM

Checking out affiliate programs like AdultForce I can see my affiliate ID tracked all the way through to the sign page.

Is CCBill different?

TheSenator 01-16-2021 04:54 PM

I found this EditThisCookie to help me track cookies.

I don't see any CCBill affiliate ID being passed through.

redwhiteandblue 01-16-2021 04:56 PM

You can use the HTTP Headers Live addon in Firefox to see what cookies are being sent and set in the headers. It looks like the aff id is encrypted in the CCBill ones.

TheSenator 01-16-2021 04:57 PM

I don't see this value anywhere PA=2026515 in any cookies on the signup page.


Code:

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clicks.cgi?CA=928498&PA=2026515&HTML=http://www.carlotta-champagne.com

TheSenator 01-16-2021 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue (Post 22807517)
You can use the HTTP Headers Live addon in Firefox to see what cookies are being sent and set in the headers. It looks like the aff id is encrypted in the CCBill ones.

If the affiliate ID is encrypted what is name for the value?

TheSenator 01-16-2021 05:20 PM

I can see the program ID but not the affiliate ID being passed through in this link.

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S3X_Jay 01-17-2021 09:14 AM

For starters it's not important that your affiliate ID be "passed through". A cookie just needs to be set on ccbill.com so when the user goes back to CCBill to buy a membership CCBill knows who to credit.

That said, I've discovered the syntax CCBill is using to set cookies is malformed. At least I think it is. For example…

Code:

Set-Cookie: 917833=CLICKS2xxWAEVsmOZT6t8ryDiItk8ZwBtWHLb2R5!PX0ImB^PNcIncgl893aYl1grn182U*; expires=? 16-Feb-21 08:02:57 GMT; path=/; domain=.ccbill.com
Notice the section that says "expires=? 16-Feb-21…" The question mark and space is the problem. So it depends on how smart the browser is and whether it can figure out what CCBill means.

Anyway, I wrote a tool to check affiliate links. Feel free to use it…

studio3x .com/tools/urltest

[I'm not allowed to post URLs yet, so you'll need to copy it and take the space out.]

CCBill does not support HTTPS, so make sure you check the box that says "Don't Check HTTPS" otherwise it will timeout.

That tool will show you each redirect that happens in the affiliate link and if not HTTPS, will test the HTTPS version of the link (unless you tell it not to). Then it will show what cookies are set, for how long, and where it redirects to.

If you just want to see the return headers for a particular URL, this will do that…

www .rexswain .com/httpview.html

TheSenator 01-17-2021 12:03 PM

Thank you for the tool. Do you know if the CCBill cookie is encrypted?

Also, is there any impact from redirecting 307(Temporary), no follow, sponsors HTTPS URL to a non-secure URL?

I use PrettyLinks for URL management.



Quote:

Originally Posted by S3X_Jay (Post 22807742)
For starters it's not important that your affiliate ID be "passed through". A cookie just needs to be set on ccbill.com so when the user goes back to CCBill to buy a membership CCBill knows who to credit.

That said, I've discovered the syntax CCBill is using to set cookies is malformed. At least I think it is. For example…

Code:

Set-Cookie: 917833=CLICKS2xxWAEVsmOZT6t8ryDiItk8ZwBtWHLb2R5!PX0ImB^PNcIncgl893aYl1grn182U*; expires=? 16-Feb-21 08:02:57 GMT; path=/; domain=.ccbill.com
Notice the section that says "expires=? 16-Feb-21…" The question mark and space is the problem. So it depends on how smart the browser is and whether it can figure out what CCBill means.

Anyway, I wrote a tool to check affiliate links. Feel free to use it…

studio3x .com/tools/urltest

[I'm not allowed to post URLs yet, so you'll need to copy it and take the space out.]

CCBill does not support HTTPS, so make sure you check the box that says "Don't Check HTTPS" otherwise it will timeout.

That tool will show you each redirect that happens in the affiliate link and if not HTTPS, will test the HTTPS version of the link (unless you tell it not to). Then it will show what cookies are set, for how long, and where it redirects to.

If you just want to see the return headers for a particular URL, this will do that…

www .rexswain .com/httpview.html


faxxaff 01-17-2021 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 22807528)
I can see the program ID but not the affiliate ID being passed through in this link.

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Just followed your link and found this code on the signup page:
Code:

                                        <input type='hidden' name='ccbill_referer' value='2045096'>
Your browser may not store third party cookies due to privacy settings or other technical issues ... Not all sales are tracked either way, but it is worth investigating.

S3X_Jay 01-18-2021 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 22807800)
Thank you for the tool. Do you know if the CCBill cookie is encrypted?

Also, is there any impact from redirecting 307(Temporary), no follow, sponsors HTTPS URL to a non-secure URL?

I use PrettyLinks for URL management.

Define "encrypted".

Cookies are encrypted in transit when being sent to secure URLS (HTTPS). CCBill's URLs are not encrypted and will fail if you try to call them with encryption (despite the fact that it's the year 2021).

Cookie values can also be encrypted, though I'm not sure what that accomplishes. They're clearly using some random-looking strings (e.g. "917833=CLICKS2xxWAEVsmOZT6t8ryDiItk8ZwBtWHLb2R5!P X0ImB^PNcIncgl893aYl1grn182U*") it's impossible to tell if the randomness of that string is because they've encrypted the value, or if it's just some type of hash that only they understand. Either way I'm not sure it matters much as long as they understand the value when they see it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by faxxaff (Post 22807819)
Just followed your link and found this code on the signup page:
Code:

<input type='hidden' name='ccbill_referer' value='2045096'>
Your browser may not store third party cookies due to privacy settings or other technical issues ... Not all sales are tracked either way, but it is worth investigating.

The CCBill cookies are not 3rd party cookies. They're first party cookies. Cookies set by URLs on refer. ccbill. com include the text "domain=.ccbill .com" which means they're setting for the entire domain, not just the "refer" subdomain. Because they're setting for their own domain, their "first party".

A third party cookie is when a cookie is set when a page loads something off a different domain (e.g. an image or a script). That's not what's happening in this case. The user actually goes (for a split second) to CCBill and is then redirected to the sponsor site. Redirects aren't "third party", they're first party.

SBJ 01-18-2021 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 22807518)
I don't see this value anywhere PA=2026515 in any cookies on the signup page.


Code:

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clicks.cgi?CA=928498&PA=2026515&HTML=http://www.carlotta-champagne.com

on the join form in firefox
PHP Code:

<input type=hidden name=ccbill_referer value='2026515'><input type=hidden name=referingURL value=''><input type=hidden name=referingDestURL value=''


TheSenator 01-18-2021 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 22808312)
on the join form in firefox
PHP Code:

<input type=hidden name=ccbill_referer value='2026515'><input type=hidden name=referingURL value=''><input type=hidden name=referingDestURL value=''


I am trying to search for this code 549146 in the join for FTV Girls. I can not find it.

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SBJ 01-18-2021 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 22808432)
I am trying to search for this code 549146 in the join for FTV Girls. I can not find it.

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they use Epoch as their first bill then transfer to ccbill if the epoch fails. so you won't find your ccbill id but the cookie should still be there.

TheSenator 01-19-2021 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 22808661)
they use Epoch as their first bill then transfer to ccbill if the epoch fails. so you won't find your ccbill id but the cookie should still be there.

Does that mean I would not get my affiliate share if the visitor signup through Epoch?

SBJ 01-19-2021 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 22808714)
Does that mean I would not get my affiliate share if the visitor signup through Epoch?

no, it would be paid out via your ccbill account via the cascade they have setup with ccbill. Some list ccbill then cascade to epoch and sometimes they switch back and forth but it always pays out to ccbill.


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