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dcortez 02-01-2021 09:29 AM

Payment processors for explicit adult erotic art physical goods
 
Who would you recommend for payment processing of sexually explicit adult art products (actual physical paintings and drawings)?

MassMarketing 02-01-2021 11:08 AM

Paypal, Shopify Payments, etc.

CurrentlySober 02-01-2021 12:21 PM

Paypal...

dcortez 02-01-2021 12:39 PM

Paypal expressly prohibits transactions of "obscene" materials, digital and physical. Sexually explicit art would fall into that category.

CurrentlySober 02-01-2021 02:00 PM

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So, what exactly do we mean by “obscene”? The Supreme Court defines it as any material which "appeals to a prurient interest in sex, portrays sexual conduct in a patently offensive way," and which "does not have any serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value." Taken at face value, then, art—by definition—could never be obscene, and that would be the end of our discussion!
Heres your argument...

dcortez 02-01-2021 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 22815398)

I don't have any issues supporting Supreme Court rulings, which strongly excuse erotic sexual art from being considered "obscene", but I would feel much better about using Paypal as a processor based on first-hand long-term experiences by those who are already successfully doing this (not simply "getting way with it"), and it would be even better to find a TOS statement from Paypal which specifically acknowledges erotic art as being exempt from the legal definitions/rulings on "obscenity".

There are literary publishers who actually include a breakout section in their TOS to clearly define specific types of erotica and what they permit, don't permit, and what they advise against in terms of content.

So are there any Paypal vendors of erotic art that have been doing it successfully with Paypal's explicit consent?

What further complicates things is that unlike Canada, where the Criminal Code is Federal, state laws have varying interpretations and tolerances regarding sexual content.

Shipping erotic art to the US is another hurdle.

dcortez 02-01-2021 04:35 PM

Further on using Paypal for sexually explicit erotic art, here is a useful guidelines page:

https://www.paypal.com/us/smarthelp/...ervices-faq569

Bottom line...

* Only US-transactions (not sure if this means US destinations or US-source-and-destinations).

* No digitally transmitted content, although sending a flashdrive or DVD-ROM with content seems permissible.

* They "consider" the literary, artistic, political, or scientific value of the product.

This seems to leave more room to work with although Paypal does have a long history of surprising merchants with frozen accounts and permanent account deletions without warning. They have also bullied Patreon to de-sexualize their account portfolios in the past.

I know many adult biz folks are using Paypal for B2B, but even being paid for explicit graphic design/artwork or copy writing/authoring of sexual site reviews (which is transmitted as digital content) is pushing the limits of their TOS.

Can adult payment processors be used for physical goods?

dcortez 02-01-2021 05:00 PM

Is anyone here using PaymentCloud?

hdbuilder 02-01-2021 05:58 PM

Check this thread -> https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...ult-sites.html

dcortez 02-01-2021 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hdbuilder (Post 22815502)

Thanks for that.

sarettah 02-01-2021 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dcortez (Post 22815508)
Thanks for that.

Are you a GFY advertiser?

If not then:

FIX YOUR FUCKING SIG!!

dammit

https://gfy.com/gfy-rules-and-regula...gulations.html

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Signature rules. Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 lines of text. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Yes there is a reason this is so big. Also putting your text in a cell and making it look like a button is against the rules. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more than 3 lines of text. Over the top sigs will be deleted without warning!
Even if you are a GFY advertiser, the rules are a 624X80 button. You are way the fuck beyond that and it is rude as shit.


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dcortez 02-01-2021 06:28 PM

thanks for the heads up!!

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22815513)
are you a gfy advertiser?

If not then:

fix your fucking sig!!

dammit

https://gfy.com/gfy-rules-and-regula...gulations.html



even if you are a gfy advertiser, the rules are a 624x80 button. You are way the fuck beyond that and it is rude as shit.


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sarettah 02-01-2021 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dcortez (Post 22815523)
thanks for the heads up!!

you are fucking welcome

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NETbilling 02-02-2021 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dcortez (Post 22815254)
Who would you recommend for payment processing of sexually explicit adult art products (actual physical paintings and drawings)?

NETbilling can certainly help, depending on your location. Please check out NETbilling.com and contact [email protected].

We are looking forward to serving you.

Thanks, Mitch

mechanicvirus 02-02-2021 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22815513)
Are you a GFY advertiser?

If not then:

FIX YOUR FUCKING SIG!!

dammit

https://gfy.com/gfy-rules-and-regula...gulations.html



Even if you are a GFY advertiser, the rules are a 624X80 button. You are way the fuck beyond that and it is rude as shit.


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Whoa sig shaming now? GFY is literally twitter!!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dcortez 02-02-2021 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NETbilling (Post 22815889)
NETbilling can certainly help, depending on your location. Please check out NETbilling.com and contact [email protected].

We are looking forward to serving you.

Thanks, Mitch

Thanks Mitch. I have dropped a line to your sales folks.

-Dino

Mobius Matt 02-02-2021 02:38 PM

MobiusPay can help you as well.

pornguy 02-03-2021 07:54 AM

I would not trust paypal with money for adult. They tend to say yes and then freeze an account when its holding money.

Use Netbilling or other.


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