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sarettah 07-07-2021 04:14 PM

40 years ago - Rapture
 


https://nypost.com/2021/07/07/blondi...video-rapture/

Quote:

Forty years ago, Debbie Harry went on network TV to introduce a new musical phenomenon called hip-hop.

“The most recent fad to catch on with kids in our big cities and metropolitan areas is rapping,” the Blondie singer explained to the audience on the network variety show “Solid Gold,” in 1981.

After mentioning some of the genre’s rising stars from the Bronx — the Sugarhill Gang, Grandmaster Flash, the Funky 4 + 1 — Harry introduced her band’s latest rap-inspired video.

“Using our new single, ‘Rapture,’” Harry said, in a professorial tone, “Blondie and some of our friends put together a number to show you what rapping in the street scene is like.”

What followed remains one of the most surprising, delightful and groundbreaking videos of all time. It has everything: Jean-Michel Basquiat playing a DJ, graffiti artists Lee Quiñones and Fab 5 Freddy, Debbie Harry rapping, voodoo dancers, a goat!

The mini-film — directed by Keith Macmillan, a k a “Keef” — was a revelation, in an era when most music videos consisted of a band pretending to perform a song on a soundstage. It not only told a story, it also merged New York City’s hip-hop, art and clubbing cultures in a totally unprecedented way. When the new cable channel MTV launched later that year, in August 1981, “Rapture” was not only the sole “rap” video it aired on its first day, it was one of the few clips that had any kind of urban grit at all — not to mention one of the few that included people of color. (MTV wouldn’t air a video by a rap group until Run-DMC’s “Rockbox” a whole three years later.)

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You gotta love Debbie Harry.

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INever 07-07-2021 10:08 PM

She didn't "introduce" shit.

It is a good song though.

Real rappers of all colors were already doing it.

Not watching tv.

That was the real nyc.

:pimp

CurrentlySober 07-08-2021 05:11 AM

Love Blondie but certainly not one of my favourite songs.

King Mark 07-08-2021 08:39 AM


8pt-buck 07-08-2021 01:41 PM

I can get in to it ...
A little later version..
I grew up listening to her ...

I chose he at her age because she is still one bad untouchable artist.


carolwebb 07-08-2021 07:12 PM

White kids introduced to rap through Run DMC and Aerosmith


blackmonsters 07-08-2021 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22885337)
Forty years ago, Debbie Harry went on network TV to introduce a new musical phenomenon called hip-hop.

Cultural theft maximum in that statement.
Robbed a million young Black people with that lie.


:2 cents:

sarettah 07-08-2021 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22885916)
Cultural theft maximum in that statement.
Robbed a million young Black people with that lie.


:2 cents:

She did not take credit for inventing hip hop. She introduced her video on solid gold, she gave credit to some of the current NY rappers when she did so.

In the article I quoted:

“The most recent fad to catch on with kids in our big cities and metropolitan areas is rapping,” the Blondie singer explained to the audience on the network variety show “Solid Gold,” in 1981.

After mentioning some of the genre’s rising stars from the Bronx — the Sugarhill Gang, Grandmaster Flash, the Funky 4 + 1 — Harry introduced her band’s latest rap-inspired video.

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In doing that, she did indeed introduce hip-hop to an entire audience that knew nothing about it.

But she did not in any way attempt to take credit for hip-hop or rap.

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Tasty1 07-08-2021 10:16 PM


blackmonsters 07-09-2021 08:09 AM

Sugarhill Gang, Grandmaster Flash, the Funky 4 + 1 were first but Kurtis Blow expanded it to bigger audience.


"Critical Rap Theory" :

In 1979, at the age of twenty, Kurtis Blow became the first rapper to be signed by a major label, Mercury, which released "Christmas Rappin'".[5] It sold over 400,000 copies........

Kurtis Walker (born August 9, 1959),[2] professionally known by his stage name Kurtis Blow, is an American rapper, singer, songwriter, record/film producer, b-boy, DJ, public speaker and minister.[3] He is the first commercially successful rapper and the first to sign with a major record label.[4] "The Breaks", a single from his 1980 self-titled debut album, is the first certified gold record rap song. Throughout his career he has released 15 albums and is currently an ordained minister.[2]....


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurtis_Blow

Dear Blondie stop stealing this Black man's history.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/01...rande.jpeg?404



PS : Columbus didn't "discover" shit here either.

:1orglaugh

blackmonsters 07-09-2021 08:19 AM

I also must add that, since I invented "Critical Rap Theory", I don't care if I made mistakes in it.


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2MuchMark 07-09-2021 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22885337)

I know this song is a big deal, but I never really liked it. I have evolved to like some old stuff which I disliked at the time, but still dislike this song. I don't hate it, I just find it boring.

I started playing guitar in 2014 and since then I've really expanded what I listen to just to learn. I never really liked Punk back in the day, but today I love it all, including Classic Punk, Modern Punk and Pop-Punk. (Ska's fun too!). Blondie was a big part of the Punk movement but even that stuff I just don't like. So, Meh to Blondie & Debbie Harry for me.

EDIT: I should add that I love HOLE and Courtney Love. So many good songs. I suppose like Hole disqualifies me from disliking Blondie to most, but oh well.

blackmonsters 07-09-2021 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22885927)

In doing that, she did indeed introduce hip-hop to an entire audience that knew nothing about it.

White supremacist paradigm : It was important when White people found out.

A billion Blacks can know already; but it's historic when one mediocre White chick found out.


Calling that shit she did rap is a joke.
It was square dance calling at best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn6i...annel=TomRoper




:1orglaugh

8pt-buck 07-09-2021 05:40 PM

How rap began ... Pay no mind to Run DMC.. listen to this back woods dude ...
Being there.. I'd be a bit uncomfy and Im white too


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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22886164)




:1orglaugh


sarettah 07-09-2021 07:04 PM



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King Mark 07-09-2021 08:14 PM

This thread took a turn I wasn't expecting.

I'm from the Bronx, Birthplace of the culture. We like Debbie Harry.

blackmonsters 07-09-2021 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22886255)


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Understand "genre"; That is "Blues" NOT "Rap".
Guess who invented Blues?

More cultural theft.

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Evil Chris 07-10-2021 01:03 PM

Let me shorten it for you.

"Rapture" was the first song featuring rap that was completely mainstream and got normal airplay for its time.

It's still a great song IMO. The end.

mikeet 07-10-2021 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 22886431)
Let me shorten it for you.

"Rapture" was the first song featuring rap that was completely mainstream and got normal airplay for its time.

It's still a great song IMO. The end.


:2 cents: :2 cents:

Tasty1 07-10-2021 02:07 PM

These where in Holland popular, Dutch rap / Nederhop. Just translated English in Dutch, mother fucker = moeder neuker.

I went there at an event, most memorable live performance.
He said as joke, lets bring the place down. And that is what happened.
In the end the whole stage went down with the drums and they kept playing.
Too bad there where no more videos, this festival was not as popular as it is now.


blackmonsters 07-10-2021 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 22886431)
Let me shorten it for you.

"Rapture" was the first song featuring rap that was completely mainstream and got normal airplay for its time.

It's still a great song IMO. The end.

Normal airplay = White people's radio stations.

Meanwhile 100 million Blacks had heard rap for years on Black radio.

Like I said, it's a White supremacy paradigm.

She was never important to rap music in anyway. just important to White people who hate to credit Blacks for anything.

She's living a legend of being White and knowing a micron about Black kids rapping as she walked down a sidewalk in the city.

Her "Rap legend" is as dumb as Columbus thinking he discovered Mexicans and told them where they were.

:1orglaugh

xKingx 07-10-2021 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22885916)
Cultural theft maximum in that statement.
Robbed a million young Black people with that lie.


:2 cents:


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Like black people taking the white man's poetry, and putting a beat to it. Wow you got shitty hip hop wooohoooo

CaptainHowdy 07-10-2021 03:33 PM

Guess there is no critique of critical rap theory . . .


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