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fred_anderson 07-15-2021 09:30 AM

twistys
 
Hi.

Fred again.

Just wrote an email about my thoughts about txxx, xvideos and pornhub network.

Also want people to know what company that put my content online without having any tube license.

I worked as a producer for many years.Back in 2011 - 2014 I licensed content to different paysites.
One of the sites that published my licensed scenes everywhere is twistys that is owned by mindgeek.

I wrote to twistys several times and also included the tube sites.

Have all emails if somebody want to see them.

In the emails I asked twistys to take down my videos or pay me 50 usd / video for the tube license...but they didn't even reply. Very frustating.


I hope everyone will stop to promote twistys.com or you continue to help thieves.

Any suggestions what to do so I can get paid for my content from them ?

Why 07-16-2021 10:02 AM

you must be new and had no clue what you were getting into when you started producing content.

all of this was happening in 2011 as well, its not new.

plsureking 07-16-2021 10:06 AM

the only people paying out reparations in porn is the courts. get a lawyer if you want your $50.

you still shooting, Fred? they'd probably reply to you if you had something to sell :winkwink:

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trevesty 07-16-2021 10:21 AM

all I've learned about you from all your threads is that you don't have a fucking clue how this business works.

fred_anderson 07-16-2021 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22888512)
the only people paying out reparations in porn is the courts. get a lawyer if you want your $50.

you still shooting, Fred? they'd probably reply to you if you had something to sell :winkwink:

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I have been in the biz for many years...so I know how everything works.
Shot exclusive for twistys from 2006 - 2014. Never had any issues when Shap was the owner.
Still shooting...but have no interest to shoot for twistys.
When you add 50 usd x hundreds of scenes it adds up to money...speciallly when we talk about several companies.

fred_anderson 07-16-2021 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 22888522)
all I've learned about you from all your threads is that you don't have a fucking clue how this business works.

You dont know who I am so you should keep your stupid comments to yourself.

plsureking 07-16-2021 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred_anderson (Post 22888540)
I have been in the biz for many years...so I know how everything works.
Shot exclusive for twistys from 2006 - 2014. Never had any issues when Shap was the owner.
Still shooting...but have no interest to shoot for twistys.
When you add 50 usd x hundreds of scenes it adds up to money...speciallly when we talk about several companies.

a million is zero if they aint paying lol

sorry thats all the useless help i have available :1orglaugh

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AmeliaG 07-16-2021 01:09 PM

If you shot exclusive for them, wouldn't the license have been a work for hire one? If so, I believe they own all rights and are just doing what they wish with their own intellectual property.

Did you have some special agreement or is their tube usage just not something you thought about when shooting?

I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

fred_anderson 07-16-2021 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 22888595)
If you shot exclusive for them, wouldn't the license have been a work for hire one? If so, I believe they own all rights and are just doing what they wish with their own intellectual property.

Did you have some special agreement or is their tube usage just not something you thought about when shooting?

I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

I do know the different between exclusive and licensed content.
The licensed scenes were not shot exclusive for twistys. For the exclusive content I did not say anything. And yes..for exclusive they asked me to sign a work for hire.
It says very clearly that twistys published my licensed videos on the tubes without having a tube license.
It is so low from a big company like twistys / mindgeek to not even reply to me with an answer.

Colmike9 07-16-2021 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred_anderson (Post 22888614)
It is so low from a big company like twistys / mindgeek to not even reply to me with an answer.

I'm sure they're ignoring you for a good reason, tho. :upsidedow

AmeliaG 07-16-2021 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred_anderson (Post 22888614)
I do know the different between exclusive and licensed content.
The licensed scenes were not shot exclusive for twistys. For the exclusive content I did not say anything. And yes..for exclusive they asked me to sign a work for hire.
It says very clearly that twistys published my licensed videos on the tubes without having a tube license.
It is so low from a big company like twistys / mindgeek to not even reply to me with an answer.

Was the nonexclusive work licensed before or after the site changed ownership? Are you able to reach out to your same point of contact?

luismartinez 07-16-2021 04:30 PM

someone should help out with this
 
Isn't shap the one from Twisty's? Its been years but the guy is nice as pie

fred_anderson 07-17-2021 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 22888622)
Was the nonexclusive work licensed before or after the site changed ownership? Are you able to reach out to your same point of contact?

It happened after Shap sold to mindgeek.
Never had any issues with Shap. Very correct guy.
My problem is with mindgeek that is the new owners.

MaDalton 07-17-2021 02:41 AM

I have been helping Fred with some other companies and he's right: non-exclusive license agreements usually say that the full length content has to be behind a paywall.

And unless it says otherwise - or has been agreed upon through an extra charge - one cannot put that content in full length on a free tube.

I do not know the specific license agreement between Fred and Twistys though.

8pt-buck 07-17-2021 12:38 PM

Where is Sean now ? - Haven't heard from the old man in ages after the birth.
I thought Dean was top photographer ?

If you have contact info, tell him to stop around.

fred_anderson 07-17-2021 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22888802)
I have been helping Fred with some other companies and he's right: non-exclusive license agreements usually say that the full length content has to be behind a paywall.

And unless it says otherwise - or has been agreed upon through an extra charge - one cannot put that content in full length on a free tube.

I do not know the specific license agreement between Fred and Twistys though.


I continued to shoot exclusive for twistys until around 2015. At the time we shot for several mindgeek sites like twistys, babes, playboyplus, mofos etc. These sites were always good to deal with and there was no issues.

The deal with twistys when they licensed my content was about honesty and trust as I have with all my clients. With twistys / mindgeek it had never been any problems before...so we never signed any papers where they could use my licensed content. It was a mutual agreement that they should keep my licensed content within twistys network. If they publish my content by mistake without asking me...sure...everybody can do mistakes. What makes me angry is that nobody from twistys / mindgeek can man up and get back to me.

CaptainHowdy 07-17-2021 03:28 PM

Keep on pushing, fred . . .

tfto 07-17-2021 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luismartinez (Post 22888650)
Isn't shap the one from Twisty's? Its been years but the guy is nice as pie

Shap was one of the nicest people in the biz. I thought Shap sold off Twisty's long ago.

8pt-buck 07-17-2021 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 22888952)
Keep on pushing, fred . . .

I have no idea who the fuck Fred is.. No disrespect but Dean ran the show.

Would be nice to see Shap pop around ... How's the baby.. (Prob not a baby anymore)
Come on around.. App Fred wants to talk to ya..
I would like to whisper in your ear too bro :thumbsup

God bless

PS : I hate when mother fuckers talk shit behind someones back especially a successful business
man when he hasn't been on this board in months.

fred_anderson 07-18-2021 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8pt-buck (Post 22888985)
I have no idea who the fuck Fred is.. No disrespect but Dean ran the show.

Would be nice to see Shap pop around ... How's the baby.. (Prob not a baby anymore)
Come on around.. App Fred wants to talk to ya..
I would like to whisper in your ear too bro :thumbsup

God bless

PS : I hate when mother fuckers talk shit behind someones back especially a successful business
man when he hasn't been on this board in months.

I already have the contact info for Shap... but he is not the issue. Shap is a good person and he has nothing to do with this. Mindgeek is the company that published my content without tube licenses.

8pt-buck 07-18-2021 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred_anderson (Post 22889073)
I already have the contact info for Shap... but he is not the issue. Shap is a good person and he has nothing to do with this. Mindgeek is the company that published my content without tube licenses.

Yeah he is a good guy... Did some 'volunteer' work for Shap back in the day when he owned BigBreastLovers.

With your situation, take it up with Mindgeek (if you can and they don't laugh at ya) ...
Fabian Thylmann (Manwin) used to stop around here (GFY) bragging about some fuckin Montreal Rolls Royce.. I've been out of the loop so long that I have no idea if Fabian is locked up or not.. and who really cares.

fred_anderson 07-18-2021 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8pt-buck (Post 22889082)
Yeah he is a good guy... Did some 'volunteer' work for Shap back in the day when he owned BigBreastLovers.

With your situation, take it up with Mindgeek (if you can and they don't laugh at ya) ...
Fabian Thylmann (Manwin) used to stop around here (GFY) bragging about some fuckin Montreal Rolls Royce.. I've been out of the loop so long that I have no idea if Fabian is locked up or not.. and who really cares.

I tried lots of times to talk with twistys and mindgeek....but nothings happens.
That is the reason why I write on gfy.

8pt-buck 07-18-2021 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred_anderson (Post 22889175)
I tried lots of times to talk with twistys and mindgeek....but nothings happens.
That is the reason why I write on gfy.

Besides being a little piss ant like me.. who the hell you gonna talk too ?
Better yet, who the hell is going to listen to ya ?

OneHungLo 07-18-2021 04:09 PM

How do you know they (Twistys) are the ones publishing the videos?

InfoGuy 07-18-2021 06:28 PM

If you want your money, then sue them.

ruff 07-18-2021 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred_anderson (Post 22889175)
I tried lots of times to talk with twistys and mindgeek....but nothings happens.
That is the reason why I write on gfy.

You should consult with an attorney for any serious discussion about your content rights. This is just forum masturbation and you're not going to cum.

8pt-buck 07-19-2021 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruff (Post 22889246)
You should consult with an attorney for any serious discussion about your content rights. This is just forum masturbation and you're not going to cum.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
:2 cents:

fred_anderson 07-19-2021 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22889219)
How do you know they (Twistys) are the ones publishing the videos?

it says very clearly that twistys is the uploaded.

OneHungLo 07-19-2021 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred_anderson (Post 22889472)
it says very clearly that twistys is the uploaded.

Is it on their Pornhub channel? post a link to the content.

fred_anderson 07-20-2021 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22889595)
Is it on their Pornhub channel? post a link to the content.

twistys posted my content on xhamster, xvideos, pornhub and several other tubes so my content is everywhere now.

8pt-buck 07-20-2021 01:17 PM

Checked back figuring Sean popped on in ... He must be busy with his gorgeous wife and thinking Montreal is going to win the cup ..
(Excuse me a second, let me laugh about his fantasy hockey dream)

Yeah, post the link. I'm curious.. I wanna see what all this crying is about.

8pt-buck 07-20-2021 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfto (Post 22888959)
-------

Your avatar.. Jana Defi ...

Need say no more.

https://i.imgur.com/TKNkcJv.jpg

tfto 07-21-2021 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8pt-buck (Post 22889921)
Your avatar.. Jana Defi ...

Need say no more.

https://i.imgur.com/TKNkcJv.jpg

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

CaptainHowdy 07-21-2021 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8pt-buck (Post 22889921)
Your avatar.. Jana Defi ...

Need say no more.

https://i.imgur.com/TKNkcJv.jpg

"Catch of the Day" . . .

OneHungLo 07-21-2021 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred_anderson (Post 22889786)
twistys posted my content on xhamster, xvideos, pornhub and several other tubes so my content is everywhere now.

Can you post a link to your content?

fred_anderson 07-22-2021 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22890500)
Can you post a link to your content?

Both xvideos and pornhub have reached out to twistys. I want to give it a few days to see if my content will be removed or if they want to pay for a tube license.
Hope to have news shortly.


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