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Tube Ace 11-16-2021 03:37 PM

"Two white guys fighting for the Heavyweight Championship of the World? Boy, that Spielberg's.."
 
From SNL Weekend Update, 1990:

Dennis Miller: Turning to sports, there's a big fight coming up next week, and here with some comments and insight is "Weekend Update" correspondent Chris Rock. Welcome, Chris!

Chris Rock: Thank you, Dennis! Next week, Evander Holyfield fights Buster Douglas for the Heavyweight Championship of the World. Now, I went to place a bet on the fight, and I found out that Evander Holyfield is the favorite! I have nothing against Evander, but didn't Buster Douglas knock Mike Tyson out? Doesn't that mean anything? What does a guy have to do to be favorite - kill Godzilla? Now, I'm at home the other night watching some old boxing movies, and by far the strangest one had to be "Rocky IV". I'm sitting there thinking to myself, "Two white guys fighting for the Heavyweight Championship of the World? Boy, that Spielberg's something else!" I mean, let's face it: white guys cannot box! Black guys fight better. Puerto Ricans fight even better. I guess the lower you go on the social ladder, the better you fight. For every good Puerto Rican fighter, there's an American Indian waiting to kick his ass! I feel so sorry for the Indians, man, because we took.. well, we didn't take.. you people took their land, and now they have nothing. Everybody exploits the Indians - you've got Mazola commercials, you've got "F-Troop", the Washington Redskins.. Washington Redskins, that's not nice! That's a racial slur! That's kind of like having the New York N1ggers, okay? [ sighs ] Uh, Dennis, what was I talking about?
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As of 2021, Wladimir Klitschko holds record of most boxers beaten for the world heavyweight title, with 23. Klitschko holds the record for the longest cumulative heavyweight title reign of all time, with 4,382 days as world heavyweight champion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavyweight

Current WBA, IBF, WBO Champion: Oleksandr Usyk (Ukraine)

Current WBC, The Ring Champion: Tyson Fury (United Kingdom)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...xing_champions
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These guys look pretty white to me, Chris. :1orglaugh




Tube Ace 11-16-2021 04:08 PM

(Ironically?) I cannot find the SNL 'Weekend Update' clip on YouTube. All I could find was this SNL clip with Chris Rock and Dennis Miller about "Racial Discrimination" from 1990 (coincidence, irony?).


Tube Ace 11-16-2021 05:29 PM

For the record, Chris Rock is in my top 3 favorite comedians of all time, Dave Chappelle and Bill Burr are the other two.

Now having said that...

Dave Chappelle got it wrong when implied in his 2004 special "For What It's Worth" a 15 year old black boy in Florida was convicted of first-degree murder for "accidentally" killing his neighbor while "practicing wrestling moves" as an adult because of his race:

Part begins at to 47:20


Chappelle didn't mention the neighbor that was killed was a 6 year old girl...

"Tate was convicted of killing Eunick by stomping on her so forcefully that her liver was lacerated. Her legs, feet, and neck all had serious bruises; an example of the amount of force used on her was similar to bruises from that of a speeding car.[4] Her other injuries included a fractured skull, fractured rib, and swollen brain. These injuries were characterized by the prosecution as "similar to those she would have sustained by falling from a three-story building."[5] In sentencing Tate to life imprisonment, Judge Joel T. Lazarus of Broward County Circuit Court said that "The acts of Lionel Tate were not the playful acts of a child [...] The acts of Lionel Tate were cold, callous and indescribably cruel."[6]"

In January 2004, a state appeals court overturned his conviction on the basis that his mental competency had not been evaluated before trial. This opened the way for Tate to accept the same plea deal he originally turned down, and he was released on one year's house arrest and 10 years' probation.[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Tate

The year after the 2004 Chappelle special....

On May 23, 2005, Tate was charged with armed burglary with battery, armed robbery, and violation of probation, the Broward County Sheriff's Office said.[16]

Tate threatened Domino's Pizza deliveryman Walter Ernest Gallardo with a handgun outside a friend's apartment after phoning in an order. Gallardo dropped the four pizzas and fled the scene. Tate then re-entered the apartment, assaulting the occupant who did not want Tate inside.[13]

Gallardo called 911 upon reaching the Domino's store and returned to identify Tate, the sheriff's office said in a statement, but no gun was recovered.[13]

On March 1, 2006, Tate accepted a plea bargain and was to be sentenced to 30 years' imprisonment in a sentencing hearing in April 2006. Tate admitted that he had violated probation by possessing a gun during the May 23 violent robbery, but he has refused to answer questions about where he got and later disposed of the gun. He was allowed to withdraw his guilty plea for robbery but was finally sentenced to 30 years in prison on May 18, 2006 for violating probation. On October 24, 2007, Florida's 4th District Court of Appeal upheld that sentence.[17]

On February 19, 2008, Tate pled no contest to the robbery and was sentenced to 10 years in state prison. The sentence will run concurrently with his 30-year sentence for violating his probation.[18] Tate is currently imprisoned in the Charlotte Correctional Institution.[19]

ZTT 11-17-2021 01:57 AM

I can't believe Chris Rock didn't base his comedy routines on the world 30 years in the future. This is unacceptable.

J. Falcon 11-17-2021 05:51 AM

Isn't Tyson Furry white?

The Irish are pretty good (white) fighters.

Tube Ace 11-17-2021 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZTT (Post 22934891)
I can't believe Chris Rock didn't base his comedy routines on the world 30 years in the future. This is unacceptable.

How about Rocky Marciano vs Dan Cockell 35 years before?





Next.

Tube Ace 11-17-2021 06:47 AM


ZTT 11-17-2021 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tube Ace (Post 22934939)
How about Rocky Marciano vs Dan Cockell 35 years before?

I can't believe Chris Rock didn't base his comedy routines on the world of the 1950s. This is unacceptable.

Quote:

Next.
Next you might learn how to spell the names of boxers you're pretending to have a clue about, you dumb racist dumbfuck.

Tube Ace 11-17-2021 07:22 AM

It is indeed Don Cockell. I pasted the typo'd name from the video title and didn't notice.

Also, you might want to learn I'm black, you soy boy dipshit.

Next.

ZTT 11-17-2021 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tube Ace (Post 22934953)
It is indeed Don Cockell. I pasted the typo'd name from the video title and didn't notice.

You didn't notice because you had no idea who he was.

Quote:

Also, you might want to learn I'm black, you soy boy dipshit.
It's weird that you sound like such a textbook racist alt-right internet dumbfuck then.

brassmonkey 11-17-2021 08:52 AM

people wised up to the effects of the sport.

Tube Ace 11-17-2021 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZTT (Post 22934978)
You didn't notice because you had no idea who he was.



It's weird that you sound like such a textbook racist alt-right internet dumbfuck then.

There you go assuming wrongly, again. Take your L with your soy latte and sit in the corner, you anti-anti-racist.

ZTT 11-17-2021 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tube Ace (Post 22934996)
There you go assuming wrongly, again. Take your L with your soy latte and sit in the corner, you anti-anti-racist.

You already used "soy". Try "cuck" next time or "snowflake".

Tube Ace 11-17-2021 09:39 AM

Good. Acceptance is the first step. Glad we're seeing real progress now.

brassmonkey 11-17-2021 10:15 AM

op rocky 4 was a fucking movie! could have been two nuns fighting an alien! off topic watching the new reboot invasion. the president is female and looks similar to mrs clinton... we have not had a female pres... you get it??

J. Falcon 11-17-2021 01:24 PM

I always found it hilarious how there was absolutely zero defense/blocking in any of the Rocky movies.

Tube Ace 11-17-2021 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22935012)
op rocky 4 was a fucking movie! could have been two nuns fighting an alien! off topic watching the new reboot invasion. the president is female and looks similar to mrs clinton... we have not had a female pres... you get it??

Yeah, I watched Rocky IV all the time as a kid. It probably shaped who I was as a young man. I would always imagine Rocky IV montages and play the music in my head while I was working out. :1orglaugh

Stallone had great style as Rocky.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/40/c1...ec8e3dd686.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/85/14...cd1af7265a.jpg



The first Creed movie was my second favorite of the entire Rocky series.

I need to watch White Men Can't Jump again.

Tube Ace 11-17-2021 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22935056)
I always found it hilarious how there was absolutely zero defense/blocking in any of the Rocky movies.

Haha yeah, the punches even miss by 6 inches or more and still make the connecting sounds.

Tube Ace 11-17-2021 02:15 PM

Oh and ZTT, you think someone saying "White men cannot box" is not racist, but someone pointing out the hypocrisy makes them racist?? What kind of backwards-ass, loser, cuck logic is that??

...and kiss my black ass.


Tube Ace 11-17-2021 02:46 PM


blackmonsters 11-17-2021 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tube Ace (Post 22934953)
It is indeed Don Cockell. I pasted the typo'd name from the video title and didn't notice.

Also, you might want to learn I'm black, you soy boy dipshit.

Next.

You need to tan your "Black" ass more then.
Here's your video : https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...ies-video.html




:2 cents:

Tube Ace 11-18-2021 03:09 AM

I'm a light-skinned brother. Yes, we can have blonde hair and blue eyes, too. :2 cents:

ZTT 11-18-2021 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tube Ace (Post 22935080)
Oh and ZTT, you think someone saying "White men cannot box" is not racist, but someone pointing out the hypocrisy makes them racist??

No, I think someone who posts a race-baiting thread out of nowhere, singling out two black comedians for criticism, with a wall of Wikipedia text about a black kid given a sentence even the prosecution thought was harsh, all while jerking off (definitely literally) over sweaty muscular white boxers and Sylvester Stallone, while spouting 2016-era alt-right flames is probably a white racist.

Or definitely a self-hating white racist, as has now been shown.

Quote:

I'm a light-skinned brother. Yes, we can have blonde hair and blue eyes, too.
https://dumpor.com/c/6759405399118877622

"1.4% African..... 100% DICKHEAD"

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Tube Ace 11-18-2021 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZTT (Post 22935271)
No, I think someone who posts a race-baiting thread out of nowhere, singling out two black comedians for criticism, with a wall of Wikipedia text about a black kid given a sentence even the prosecution thought was harsh, all while jerking off (definitely literally) over sweaty muscular white boxers and Sylvester Stallone, while spouting 2016-era alt-right flames is probably a white racist.

Or definitely a self-hating white racist, as has now been shown.



https://dumpor.com/c/6759405399118877622

"1.4% African..... 100% DICKHEAD"

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


Oh good, you're back from picking up your wife from her boyfriend's house.

Who said anything about jerking off to sweaty men? ... oh yeah, you did. Now we know what you like fantasizing about. You really have no problem painting such a picture in your head, don't you? :1orglaugh I was working out while you were playing with your dolls.

I pointed out the two comedians for the bullshit bits, because when I first saw those clips, I actually believed it. In fact, the Chris Rock bit regarding white boxers was so wrong they deleted the clip from the internet, but I never forgot about it. :disgust

If you want to defend the brutal MURDER of a defenseless 6 year old girl committed by a repeat-offending, violent piece of trash, regardless of race, that says a lot about you. :helpme

Go have another soy latte, but I hate to tell you... you'll never be a REAL woman.

YOU are the self-hating racist as you are defending such behavior.

Now you're 0-2, time to think about retiring or get your gender reassignment surgery.

Tube Ace 11-18-2021 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22935140)
You need to tan your "Black" ass more then.

What makes you the gatekeeper of who is black and who isn't? I don't appreciate your colorism. I am proud of my heritage.

And yes, according to 23andme, I am multi-racial.

There are beautiful people of ALL races.

https://i.imgur.com/oGS0i5t.png

Tube Ace 11-18-2021 05:42 AM

Got my Rocky Soundtrack Spotify playlist on as I pack my luggage since I fly out tomorrow morning to a new city I've never been before. I think I'll run a marathon as I explore the city. Don't worry, I'll post pics :thumbsup

https://i.imgur.com/0qE5fec.jpg

Tube Ace 11-18-2021 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZTT (Post 22935271)

https://dumpor.com/c/6759405399118877622

"1.4% African..... 100% DICKHEAD"

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Damn, you stalking me already? That comment was made by my ex's sister who was mad I put her back on the shelf. You want to see more photos of me?

You're mad because you know you played yourself. You assumed I was alt-right because I called you a soy boy. You're easily fooled. I was just having a little fun :1orglaugh



Which are you? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Tube Ace 11-18-2021 09:03 AM

ZTT: You called me a racist. If I am racist, please tell me WHO am I racist against?

Mods: I'm requesting ZTT be banned for making false allegations against me. I made this thread to point out hypocrisy and be ANTI-racist. Some white men can obviously box quite well and become Heavyweight Champion of the World.

jamesonjames 11-18-2021 09:56 AM

These days every discussion ends up with racial allegations..

blackmonsters 11-18-2021 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesonjames (Post 22935378)
These days every discussion ends up with racial allegations..

Yo mamma!

:1orglaugh

brassmonkey 11-18-2021 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesonjames (Post 22935378)
These days every discussion ends up with racial allegations..

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh fuck you mofo!!!

Tube Ace 11-18-2021 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesonjames (Post 22935378)
These days every discussion ends up with racial allegations..

I'm telling ya, man. Losers are always trying to tear winners down over anything. Today they are called soy boys. Back in the day they were called "bitch made". I think it's because there are too many single moms raising boys. :Oh crap

I can't even run through the streets shirtless without literally hearing at least 5 people per day muttering "showoff" under their their breath as I gallop through looking like a god-damned stallion while their women lick their lips and make involuntary moans wishing they were with me instead. I'm in a beach town for crying out loud. :error

This afternoon, as I walked home from the beach as an oiled-up sun-kissed Greek God, a man in his 50s said "I might as well give up" as his and his buddies' wives jaws hung agape as I strolled by. Why can't more men just accept defeat like a man or hang their heads in silence? At least some women will check their boyfriends and say "ya jealous?" after making some remark about me. What? Haven't they seen an adonis before? If I see a guy that's fit, it inspires me to workout, not like act jealous broad.

Even at the gym, if I show my skills as I drop bombs on the heavy bag, some punk or bird with a wimp boyfriend has to call me a showoff. I mean, where else am I supposed to hit the punching bag? I'm at the gym where they hung it up FFS!


Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22935435)
Yo mamma!

:1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22935446)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh fuck you mofo!!!

Sup my ninjas :pimp

ZTT 11-18-2021 11:24 PM

"Bitch made soy boy"? Is that like someone who cries to the mods in 10 different posts because someone swaid somfwing nastwy?

Tube Ace 11-19-2021 12:15 AM

Yes, that's exactly what you did. :)

jamesonjames 11-19-2021 02:18 AM

I wouldn't go far as to say that being a narcissist is a proper solution to being a soy boy..
Sorry.
Lol.

cordoba 11-19-2021 02:42 AM

I read that the city of Philadelphia has a statue of Rocky Bilbao, a fictional boxer, but no statue to Joe Frazier, all time great heavyweight boxer from Philadelphia, and the real boxer who (along with Rocky Marciano) Stallone based his character on.

As to the OP's point - big athletic black dudes go straight into the NFL these days. Larry Holmes has said that him, Foreman, Ali, Norton, Frazier would all be in the NFL today.

The ones that do like to fight choose the UFC now. Derek Lewis was discovered by Geroge Foreman at his local gym but decided to go into MMA, despite boxing being much more favorable to his skill set. The current UFC heavyweight champion - Francis Nganu - has Deontay Wilder punching power, and started off as a boxer, but chose MMA/UFC.

Boxing is still wildly popular in the UK, and parts of Eastern Europe such as Poland and the Ukraine.

ZTT 11-19-2021 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 22935627)
I read that the city of Philadelphia has a statue of Rocky Bilbao, a fictional boxer, but no statue to Joe Frazier, all time great heavyweight boxer from Philadelphia, and the real boxer who (along with Rocky Marciano) Stallone based his character on.

As to the OP's point - big athletic black dudes go straight into the NFL these days. Larry Holmes has said that him, Foreman, Ali, Norton, Frazier would all be in the NFL today.

The ones that do like to fight choose the UFC now. Derek Lewis was discovered by Geroge Foreman at his local gym but decided to go into MMA, despite boxing being much more favorable to his skill set. The current UFC heavyweight champion - Francis Nganu - has Deontay Wilder punching power, and started off as a boxer, but chose MMA/UFC.

Boxing is still wildly popular in the UK, and parts of Eastern Europe such as Poland and the Ukraine.

Good post and explanation.

The statue of Rocky is probably more about the steps that were immortalized in the film, and mostly a tourist attraction, rather than Rocky as a hero of the city. Frazier also has at least one statue, though this one was relatively recent:

https://i.imgur.com/BqoKy9w.jpeg

Tube Ace 11-19-2021 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 22935627)
I read that the city of Philadelphia has a statue of Rocky Bilbao, a fictional boxer, but no statue to Joe Frazier, all time great heavyweight boxer from Philadelphia, and the real boxer who (along with Rocky Marciano) Stallone based his character on.

Bill Burr mentioned this in his Philly Rant. Gotta love his honesty.




Many people ignorantly try calling him a racist too until they learn who his wife is.

jamesonjames 11-19-2021 04:34 AM

Burr's always on top of his game, got to give the dude some credit. Was lucky to see him live in UK. What a comedian.
I do think that it's a bit unfair to Frazier. Definitely a hero of his generation. In a build up to recent UFC fight between Usman and Covington the promo campaign was "Every Ali needs his Frazier".

Tube Ace 11-19-2021 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesonjames (Post 22935640)
Burr's always on top of his game, got to give the dude some credit. Was lucky to see him live in UK. What a comedian.
I do think that it's a bit unfair to Frazier. Definitely a hero of his generation. In a build up to recent UFC fight between Usman and Covington the promo campaign was "Every Ali needs his Frazier".

Burr is my spirit animal. I feel like we share a brain. I've seen him twice live. New Orleans in 2015 and at Royal Albert Hall in London 2018.

Tube Ace 01-01-2022 01:54 PM


Grapesoda 01-02-2022 11:02 AM

Dennis Miller is a well known conservative, I worked on his show, back in the day, I didn't enjoy it much.

Grapesoda 01-02-2022 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tube Ace (Post 22949491)

Modernity is a very cool word

Tube Ace 01-02-2022 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22949678)
Dennis Miller is a well known conservative, I worked on his show, back in the day, I didn't enjoy it much.

There aren't too many conservative comedians. Adam Carolla and Norm Macdonald (Alex Jones possibly?) are the only others I can think of at the moment.


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