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just a punk 01-23-2022 02:01 AM

What scientists say about
 
  1. For those who are vaccinated and have been ill, Omicron is more dangerous than Delta in terms of possible hospitalization.
  2. For those who have made a booster, this risk is much lower.
  3. But even with a booster, it is higher than with Delta.
  4. The highest risks of hospitalization are when a person without immunity (from vaccination or from a disease) meets Delta. When a person without immunity meets Omicron, the risks are slightly lower. For those who are immune, the risks are about ten times lower when encountering Delta and about three times lower when encountering Omicron.

In short: vaccination really lowers your risks to get Delta, but it's absolutely useless against Omicron and further mutations of COVID-19.

BTW, QR coders are useless too, because the chance that a vaccinated person is an infected disseminator of the virus are the same as if he/she is not vaccinated.

ZTT 01-23-2022 03:44 AM

I'm not an "antivaxxer" or even anti-masker, but vaccinated people are arguably a worse/bigger threat, since they typically believe they are being injected with a serum from a Marvel comic and can resume licking door handles and coughing in people's faces with their new super powers.

I try not to follow Covid stuff because it's depressing and annoying (idiots on either side repeating the same stuff) but I'm pretty sure the stats indicate rising levels of covid infection in places with higher vaccination levels, because people are essentially filthy, lazy bastards.

Unvaccinated people are far more likely to be careful and hygienic and are probably also more likely to have obvious signs of infection to avoid or be careful around.

The persecution of unvaccinated people, whether infected or not, is just another example of the cluelessness that has characterized this event from day one. (I'm not pretending to have a clue; I'm saying nobody really seems to have one.)

TheLegacy 01-23-2022 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22957122)
  1. For those who are vaccinated and have been ill, Omicron is more dangerous than Delta in terms of possible hospitalization.
  2. For those who have made a booster, this risk is much lower.
  3. But even with a booster, it is higher than with Delta.
  4. The highest risks of hospitalization are when a person without immunity (from vaccination or from a disease) meets Delta. When a person without immunity meets Omicron, the risks are slightly lower. For those who are immune, the risks are about ten times lower when encountering Delta and about three times lower when encountering Omicron.

In short: vaccination really lowers your risks to get Delta, but it's absolutely useless against Omicron and further mutations of COVID-19.

BTW, QR coders are useless too, because the chance that a vaccinated person is an infected disseminator of the virus are the same as if he/she is not vaccinated.


In Canada we're finding the opposite - in fact they encourage mix'd vaccines but getting a 3rd dose will help lower the impact should you be infected.. notice.. impact not immunity.

Well I'm hoping that you trust scientists over blogs - if so then this will help


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ness/work.html

COVID-19 Vaccines Are Effective Against Most Variants
Viruses are constantly changing and new types of the virus, called variants, occur. New variants of the virus that causes COVID-19 are spreading in the United States and in other parts of the world. COVID-19 vaccines are effective against the Delta variant and other variants with widespread circulation in the United States. Current vaccines are expected to protect against severe illness, hospitalizations, and deaths due to infection with the Omicron variant. We don’t yet know how effective the vaccines will be against new variants that might arise. CDC will continue to monitor vaccine effectiveness to see if variants have any impact on how well COVID-19 vaccines work in real-world conditions.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...-effectiveness

I would actually dare anyone to take these questions to the CDC themselves. Scary when you actually talk to a scientist who knows their shit vs. someone who reads shit online.

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Call 800-232-4636
Email CDC-INFO or https://wwwn.cdc.gov/dcs/contactus/form
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so - rather than create a 6 page long thread - someone grow some balls and actually calll the CDC and listen to facts.... I don't know..maybe hear the truth?

BaldBastard 01-23-2022 11:34 AM

Sydney is in the middle of our omicron outbreak and 50% of cases in hospital are vaccinated and 50% are not.

93.1% vaccination rate, omicron seems mild but for the elderly and those with preexisting life threating issues it can be the thing that pushes them over the edge.

For the 6.9% of unvaccinated population that make up the other 50% of hospital admissions its another story, most are under 50 years and few, if any have preexisting conditions.

We locked down for Alpha and Delta and just let Omicron rip, sadly the economic downturn has been worse under omicron due to the numbers off work and not even able to work from home..

Hopefully future strains in the years and decades ahead are this mild and our failed experiment of letting a pandemic rip is never repeated again.

CaptainHowdy 01-23-2022 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ZTT (Post 22957129)
I'm not an "antivaxxer" or even anti-masker, but vaccinated people are arguably a worse/bigger threat, since they typically believe they are being injected with a serum from a Marvel comic and can resume licking door handles and coughing in people's faces with their new super powers.

:1orglaugh :2 cents: . . .

$5 submissions 01-24-2022 05:22 PM

I shudder to think of what future variants will bring

CurrentlySober 01-24-2022 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ZTT (Post 22957129)
can resume licking door handles

i cunt resume, coz i never stopped. :2 cents:

Grapesoda 01-24-2022 06:23 PM

2 irrefutable facts about the vaccine. One the people that made it don't know how it works. And 2 the government is forcing you to take it

ZTT 01-25-2022 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22957703)
the people that made it don't know how it works

It doesn't. *badumtss*

Jesus H Christ 2.0 01-25-2022 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 22957679)
I shudder to think of what future variants will bring

..... well, is this not the whole point of this ordeal?


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