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sandman! 02-08-2022 10:36 PM

They got caught
 
MarketWatch: Feds arrest husband-and-wife team and recover $3.6 billion in bitcoin stolen in 2016 from Bitfinex — the largest government seizure in history.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fe...ge-11644339957


Dam that’s a lot of crypto

brassmonkey 02-08-2022 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 22963228)
MarketWatch: Feds arrest husband-and-wife team and recover $3.6 billion in bitcoin stolen in 2016 from Bitfinex — the largest government seizure in history.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fe...ge-11644339957


Dam that’s a lot of crypto

they are going to get life...

jscott 02-08-2022 11:31 PM

Very awesome they're finally caught!!!! Fuck the hackers & scammers!

REMINDER: never store your crypto on exchanges!

jscott 02-08-2022 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22963229)
they are going to get life...

You think they'll get Ulbricht'd?

ZTT 02-09-2022 03:59 AM

"Prosecutors say the couple had been slowly laundering the money, having moved about 25,000 of the coins [...] to purchase NFTs."

No shit?

blackmonsters 02-09-2022 07:33 AM

Crypto is not anonymous, the police will find the bitcion user if they want to.

:2 cents:

pornguy 02-09-2022 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22963300)
Crypto is not anonymous, the police will find the bitcion user if they want to.

:2 cents:

Yep.
Where there is a will there is a way. And money is always the will.

Grapesoda 02-09-2022 09:39 AM

What 1 man can make another man can unmake

jscott 02-09-2022 10:35 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLIvWbWW...jpg&name=small

plsureking 02-09-2022 10:52 AM

"Prosecutors said they would ultimately move to return the seized money back to those it was stolen from in 2016."

at the current market value or the 2016 value? :helpme

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jscott 02-09-2022 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22963384)
"Prosecutors said they would ultimately move to return the seized money back to those it was stolen from in 2016."

at the current market value or the 2016 value? :helpme

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Bitcoin was stolen , Bitcoin was recovered, pretty sure they plan (or need) to return the BTC

Zuzana Designs 02-09-2022 11:05 AM

Pretty crazy story!

ZTT 02-09-2022 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 22963388)
Bitcoin was stolen , Bitcoin was recovered, pretty sure they plan (or need) to return the BTC

Sure. Just like they returned everyone's E-gold.

Just supply all your personal info, prove to them you aren't "money laundering" or "defrauding the regime", like these two are accused of, and explain to their satisfaction how you got the bitcoins legally and maybe they'll give you your own property back. Guilty until proven innocent, the American way.

CaptainHowdy 02-09-2022 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 22963373)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh . . .

jscott 02-09-2022 02:16 PM

well we're talking about an exchange, and yes they'll have to prove it before getting the BTC's back. E-gold was centralized, so centralized that it was able to be killed. This is why you shouldn't be a shitcoiner.

Decentralization is probably the most important fundamental property of a cryptocurrency, and Bitcoin is the only one with it.

ZTT 02-09-2022 02:54 PM

The bitcoin doesn't belong to the exchange any more than the E-gold belonged to E-gold. It belongs to the users, many if no most of whom won't or can't prove where their bitcoin came from. So all that has happened here is the government has stolen their bitcoin.

Anyway, I'd love to hear more about how cryptos that are literally bitcoin code with a name change and different algo are less decentralized than bitcoin.

jscott 02-09-2022 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZTT (Post 22963499)
The bitcoin doesn't belong to the exchange any more than the E-gold belonged to E-gold. It belongs to the users, many if no most of whom won't or can't prove where their bitcoin came from. So all that has happened here is the government has stolen their bitcoin.

If the customers owned the BTC nobody would have lost their BTC to this hack. Not your keys, not your coins.

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Originally Posted by ZTT (Post 22963499)
Anyway, I'd love to hear more about how cryptos that are literally bitcoin code with a name change and different algo are less decentralized than bitcoin.

Find one, post it, make a case of why you think it's decentralized, lets discuss.

ZTT 02-10-2022 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 22963510)
If the customers owned the BTC nobody would have lost their BTC to this hack. Not your keys, not your coins.

If you don't believe the coins belong to the users because they don't have the keys, why do you think they belong to the exchange? They obviously don't have the keys either.

It's almost as if "no keys, no coins" is a brainless phrase only ever sincerely uttered by brainless people.

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Find one, post it, make a case of why you think it's decentralized, lets discuss.
It's not my job to explain claims you're making, so again, in bold: Why is bitcoin "the only" cryptocurrency that is decentralized?

dave90210 02-10-2022 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 22963510)
Not your keys, not your coins.

Explains all the cameras and wires everywhere.

jscott 02-10-2022 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZTT (Post 22963651)
If you don't believe the coins belong to the users because they don't have the keys, why do you think they belong to the exchange? They obviously don't have the keys either.

It's almost as if "no keys, no coins" is a brainless phrase only ever sincerely uttered by brainless people.

It's not my job to explain claims you're making, so again, in bold: Why is bitcoin "the only" cryptocurrency that is decentralized?

Well, it's not my job to explain to you how banks to fiat, similarly exchanges to crypto have ownership over your funds, you sound extremely ignorant to how it works, and I'm not your teacher, go learn it, maybe start with fractional reserve banking or compare Kraken.com's "proof of reserves" compared to all other exchanges

And, you're the one who's saying: "I'd love to hear more about how cryptos that are literally bitcoin code with a name change and different algo are less decentralized than bitcoin."

Well, learn one! If you really wanted to know of which is more decentralized, search for it, quit being lazy. Otherwise make an argument for whatever shitcoin you support, or STFU :winkwink:

ps. never stop learning

ANAL PASTE 02-10-2022 03:01 PM

3 years tops.

AMDWarrior 02-10-2022 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 22963770)
Well, it's not my job to explain to you how banks to fiat, similarly exchanges to crypto have ownership over your funds, you sound extremely ignorant to how it works, and I'm not your teacher, go learn it, maybe start with fractional reserve banking or compare Kraken.com's "proof of reserves" compared to all other exchanges

And, you're the one who's saying: "I'd love to hear more about how cryptos that are literally bitcoin code with a name change and different algo are less decentralized than bitcoin."

Well, learn one! If you really wanted to know of which is more decentralized, search for it, quit being lazy. Otherwise make an argument for whatever shitcoin you support, or STFU :winkwink:

ps. never stop learning



Fake money lol

romeo22 02-10-2022 03:30 PM

Huge money but it does not pay off to steal

jscott 02-10-2022 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AMDWarrior (Post 22963892)
Fake money lol

yet fiat money has the exact same properties as monopoly money :1orglaugh

ZTT 02-11-2022 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 22963770)
Well, it's not my job to explain to you how banks to fiat, similarly exchanges to crypto have ownership over your funds, you sound extremely ignorant to how it works,

Wat.

So you think that when banks get robbed, like this exchange was, customers of the bank are the ones who lose their money because the bank "has ownership of their funds"? :1orglaugh

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and I'm not your teacher, go learn it, maybe start with fractional reserve banking or compare Kraken.com's "proof of reserves" compared to all other exchanges
"Fractional reserve banking" now... Anything to evade the question.

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And, you're the one who's saying: "I'd love to hear more about how cryptos that are literally bitcoin code with a name change and different algo are less decentralized than bitcoin."
Uhhhhhh, yeah... I posted that totally obvious sarcasm because you can't possibly explain - as you are showing now - how bitcoin is the only decentralized cryptocurrency, because it isn't.

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If you really wanted to know of which is more decentralized, search for it
Why would I search for something moronically stupid that only you believe? I already explained to you that coins that are almost entirely bitcoin code are just as decentralized as bitcoin.

mattz 02-11-2022 06:42 AM

The government is 100% not returning that money. The US hates Bitfinex and it's shady bank dealings.

jscott 02-11-2022 07:48 AM

it's 2020's and this guy (ZTT) still fighting Bitcoin :1orglaugh
good luck with that dude

jscott 02-11-2022 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattz (Post 22964141)
The government is 100% not returning that money. The US hates Bitfinex and it's shady bank dealings.

seems like the creation of that LEO token was to pay off the debt, fiat value, to their customers after that finex hack... so those recovered BTC's should be going back to them, and being on center stage, i bet they do get some back, maybe not all, we'll see

xtreme01 02-11-2022 02:08 PM

Holy guacamole.

Where's that hard drive of mine I misplaced years ago full of crypto...!

jscott 02-11-2022 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by xtreme01 (Post 22964218)
Holy guacamole.

Where's that hard drive of mine I misplaced years ago full of crypto...!

Shit that sucks man!!! But, you stored your recovery words on a computer? Tell us so we can learn (sadly) from your mistake. :Oh crap
Any hope of you finding drive or recovering somehow?

jscott 02-11-2022 02:49 PM

In case anyone interested, very recent interview with Paolo the CTO of Bitfinex. Covering the hack, BTC returning, tether FUD, etc

ZTT 02-11-2022 04:17 PM

"Bitfinex and Tether recklessly and unlawfully covered-up massive financial losses [...] Tether's claims that its virtual currency was fully backed by U.S. dollars at all times was a lie [...] we're taking action to end Bitfinex and Tether's illegal activities" - NY AG Letitia James

"FUD".

sandman! 02-11-2022 04:51 PM

How about you start your own thread to shit on crypto and get the fuck out of mine ?


Quote:

Originally Posted by ZTT (Post 22964253)
"Bitfinex and Tether recklessly and unlawfully covered-up massive financial losses [...] Tether's claims that its virtual currency was fully backed by U.S. dollars at all times was a lie [...] we're taking action to end Bitfinex and Tether's illegal activities" - NY AG Letitia James

"FUD".


jscott 02-11-2022 05:30 PM

I know right, he spams every thread with nonsense. He rather go into cope mode rather than to learn and understand it. Weird.

ZTT 02-11-2022 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 22964260)
How about you start your own thread to shit on crypto and get the fuck out of mine ?

How about you understand and learn to live with how forums work after 21 years being on one? Starting a thread doesn't mean you own it or control what other people post in it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 22964268)
I know right, he spams every thread with nonsense. He rather go into cope mode rather than to learn and understand it. Weird.

At least you're funny, and relatively chilled out.

Tasty1 02-11-2022 08:17 PM

Small criminals are bad. But when you steal billions, respect.
many criminals had to kill people to get that rich. You can see them on netflix.

sandman! 02-11-2022 09:56 PM

Go eat a dick.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ZTT (Post 22964289)
How about you understand and learn to live with how forums work after 21 years being on one? Starting a thread doesn't mean you own it or control what other people post in it.



At least you're funny, and relatively chilled out.


lezinterracial 02-12-2022 06:24 AM

Coldfusion has the story.



oh no. I wonder if she is on GFY.


mattz 02-12-2022 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 22964145)
seems like the creation of that LEO token was to pay off the debt, fiat value, to their customers after that finex hack... so those recovered BTC's should be going back to them, and being on center stage, i bet they do get some back, maybe not all, we'll see

yep the LEO token was to raise money to pay back the customers and they also created the Recovery Right Token (RRT) for any funds that may be recovered from the hack.

Yeah I guess we will see if they get any back, I don't think so, but you may be correct on them getting some back.

The coins were worth around 75mil when they were stolen I believe, and gained billions in value

lezinterracial 02-12-2022 10:19 AM

Yea, I think the Russian programmer boyfriend probably found the exploit.

I'm a mother fucking lizard, married to a god damn wizard.



jscott 02-12-2022 11:15 AM

haha, @lez good ones!!
man that girl is wacked out a bit.


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