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CurrentlySober 01-23-2023 12:33 PM

Microsoft Lays Off All Its VR, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens Employees
 
https://www.extremetech.com/electron...lens-employees

In dumping 5% of its workforce, Microsoft has signaled a lack of faith in the metaverse... :(

Klen 01-23-2023 12:40 PM

Didn't even know they doing VR :D

DVTimes 01-23-2023 03:28 PM

Most firms are laying off staff in the technology world.

But VR is a problem, as headsets expensive with too few wanting them.

TheLegacy 01-23-2023 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 23088547)
Most firms are laying off staff in the technology world.

But VR is a problem, as headsets expensive with too few wanting them.

Tell that to the VR promoters out there who simply have an answer for everything and when faced with this reality start attacking you.

It does make sense but I'm sure technology will catch up to porn's request (which has always been the case)

MaDalton 01-23-2023 04:23 PM

They are not ending the Hololens, that's a misinterpretation

DVTimes 01-23-2023 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 23088570)
Tell that to the VR promoters out there who simply have an answer for everything and when faced with this reality start attacking you.

It does make sense but I'm sure technology will catch up to porn's request (which has always been the case)


These firms would be far better producing some simple stand alone light weight VR headsets.

Rather than opting for super realistic computer games, just basic old fashioned dos type games, or even the BBC B quality.

Make them cheap.

And that way they sell and lots of people make games and so on for them.

I guess a lot will be if Apple have a version.

But if I was to bet on the next trend it would be in the car, such as onscreen on windows or fancy gps systems or whatever.

OneHungLo 01-24-2023 08:03 AM

Apple is supposed to be coming out with its own.

Apple’s mixed reality headset could feature full-body FaceTime avatars

Sounds interesting.

candyflip 01-24-2023 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 23088547)
too few wanting them.

You don't have kids do you? We have 4 of the Quest 2 models here at our house, along with the two older Oculus standalone units and a Rift S.

Kids absolutely want and are using VR. They're buliding their base for the future.

Oculus Quest 2 currently outsells the XBOX - with almost 20 million units sold. Quest store did almost $2 billion in sales.

Jane-Busty.pl 01-28-2023 10:59 AM

Billions of $$ spent but they didn't make a simple math.
Human brain will never accept VR. Being an ignorant has its costs.


I read these 2 books and since then I strongly advised against VR. It won't work because our brains reject conflicting impulses.

https://www.amazon.pl/Brain-Story-Yo.../dp/1782116613
or
https://www.amazon.com/Incognito-Sec.../dp/0307389928


I posted a few times here on GFY about that. Nobody cared and still nobody cares:-) I hope you didn't invest too much in VR.:upsidedow

brassmonkey 01-28-2023 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jane-Busty.pl (Post 23090433)
Billions of $$ spent but they didn't make a simple math.
Human brain will never accept VR. Being an ignorant has its costs.


I read these 2 books and since then I strongly advised against VR. It won't work because our brains reject conflicting impulses.

https://www.amazon.pl/Brain-Story-Yo.../dp/1782116613
or
https://www.amazon.com/Incognito-Sec.../dp/0307389928


I posted a few times here on GFY about that. Nobody cared and still nobody cares:-) I hope you didn't invest too much in VR.:upsidedow

flashing lights fuck up some people but not most.. if you start at a younger age the brain will adapt. like a trained eye :winkwink::winkwink:

Jane-Busty.pl 01-28-2023 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 23090442)
flashing lights fuck up some people but not most.. if you start at a younger age the brain will adapt. like a trained eye :winkwink::winkwink:

Flashing lights? Well, no. It's about matching the sight with other impulses coming from human body. Like heart rate, blood pressure, adrenalin level, etc.
Each movement causes them. Unless you're not moving but your eyes provide a movement to your brain. CONFLICT. Then your brain takes it as possible poisoning.
Sight is not just seeing. There's a lot more to it. After you'll read one of those books, your doubts will vanish. :-)

brassmonkey 01-28-2023 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jane-Busty.pl (Post 23090453)
Flashing lights? Well, no. It's about matching the sight with other impulses coming from human body. Like heart rate, blood pressure, adrenalin level, etc.
Each movement causes them. Unless you're not moving but your eyes provide a movement to your brain. CONFLICT. Then your brain takes it as possible poisoning.
Sight is not just seeing. There's a lot more to it. After you'll read one of those books, your doubts will vanish. :-)

im not reading fucking books on the subject. ok i was right...
They found that common concerns associated with VR headsets were headaches or nausea. However, in some studies, adults were more likely to report having negative experiences following VR headset use (headache, eye strain, neck soreness, etc.) than were children.
https://www.kaixr.com/post/are-vr-headsets-safe i think you need to grow into it.

Jane-Busty.pl 01-28-2023 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 23090477)
im not reading fucking books on the subject. ok i was right...
They found that common concerns associated with VR headsets were headaches or nausea. However, in some studies, adults were more likely to report having negative experiences following VR headset use (headache, eye strain, neck soreness, etc.) than were children.
https://www.kaixr.com/post/are-vr-headsets-safe i think you need to grow into it.

One can't be wrong for 8 years and still believe, it will turn over to positive. Unless someone pays to say that.
MS is dropping VR, Oculus dropped VR a couple of years ago. I wish you luck in promoting a failed technology. :upsidedow

just a punk 01-28-2023 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 23088466)
https://www.extremetech.com/electron...lens-employees

In dumping 5% of its workforce, Microsoft has signaled a lack of faith in the metaverse... :(


brassmonkey 01-28-2023 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jane-Busty.pl (Post 23090479)
One can't be wrong for 8 years and still believe, it will turn over to positive. Unless someone pays to say that.
MS is dropping VR, Oculus dropped VR a couple of years ago. I wish you luck in promoting a failed technology. :upsidedow

microsoft was never the leader! draw your own conclusion... sales are up

TheLegacy 01-28-2023 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 23088868)
You don't have kids do you? We have 4 of the Quest 2 models here at our house, along with the two older Oculus standalone units and a Rift S.

Kids absolutely want and are using VR. They're buliding their base for the future.

Oculus Quest 2 currently outsells the XBOX - with almost 20 million units sold. Quest store did almost $2 billion in sales.

That maybe in your home - I have 5 kids and none of them want it and laugh when I suggested it (and they have a lot of the latest gadgets). They asked their friends at school and no one has them either both high school and elementary. Neighbors I've talked too - volunteer groups - even the actual shops that sell them - no one wants them - or has them - period.

I'm sure somewhere in the world around you kids are using them - but anyone I ask in the industry with kids or without I still get the same answer - most don't have it and those who do - rarely go back in the future because they don't like it.

Sometime in the future maybe - but not now.

brassmonkey 01-28-2023 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 23090489)
That maybe in your home - I have 5 kids and none of them want it and laugh when I suggested it (and they have a lot of the latest gadgets). They asked their friends at school and no one has them either both high school and elementary. Neighbors I've talked too - volunteer groups - even the actual shops that sell them - no one wants them - or has them - period.

I'm sure somewhere in the world around you kids are using them - but anyone I ask in the industry with kids or without I still get the same answer - most don't have it and those who do - rarely go back in the future because they don't like it.

Sometime in the future maybe - but not now.

because they are expensive now. remember those ugly ass comps were like 2 grand? :helpme:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh fucking atari 2600 looking graphics! :Oh crap it will take years to come down in price. this is the rough draft just like any other thing in development stages...

mainstreammix 01-28-2023 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 23088868)
You don't have kids do you? We have 4 of the Quest 2 models here at our house, along with the two older Oculus standalone units and a Rift S.

Kids absolutely want and are using VR. They're buliding their base for the future.

Oculus Quest 2 currently outsells the XBOX - with almost 20 million units sold. Quest store did almost $2 billion in sales.

VR haters are like tube denialists from way back. Quest selling lot hotcakes and always has.

mainstreammix 01-28-2023 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jane-Busty.pl (Post 23090453)
Flashing lights? Well, no. It's about matching the sight with other impulses coming from human body. Like heart rate, blood pressure, adrenalin level, etc.
Each movement causes them. Unless you're not moving but your eyes provide a movement to your brain. CONFLICT. Then your brain takes it as possible poisoning.
Sight is not just seeing. There's a lot more to it. After you'll read one of those books, your doubts will vanish. :-)

How about you use VR at least fucking once before commenting on it. I walk around my full enormous ass living room when I play VR golf. You aren't sitting still and watching shit around you unless you want to. :1orglaugh

brassmonkey 01-28-2023 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainstreammix (Post 23090523)
How about you use VR at least fucking once before commenting on it. I walk around my full enormous ass living room when I play VR golf. You aren't sitting still and watching shit around you unless you want to. :1orglaugh

the future will be like a safe room that is padded. with some harness to keep you from bumping into wall. maybe something that you can stand and sit in. eventually simulated movement like universal studios.

beavr 01-29-2023 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 23088570)
Tell that to the VR promoters out there who simply have an answer for everything and when faced with this reality start attacking you.

It does make sense but I'm sure technology will catch up to porn's request (which has always been the case)

https://www.sexlikereal.com/ is expanding VR economy for creators, performers and everyone around. It only gets better.

The problem is that legacy companies can't figure out VR. The value proposition is incredible.

Sergio 01-29-2023 03:06 AM

It will be a very long time before all these virtual universes start to be worth anything. I wouldn't invest there yet.

brassmonkey 01-29-2023 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sergio (Post 23090647)
It will be a very long time before all these virtual universes start to be worth anything. I wouldn't invest there yet.

depends if you want to be part of being the pioneer or just an investor.

Mr Pheer 01-29-2023 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sergio (Post 23090647)
It will be a very long time before all these virtual universes start to be worth anything. I wouldn't invest there yet.

That's what people said when bitcoin finally reached 1 cent value.

mainstreammix 01-29-2023 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 23090551)
the future will be like a safe room that is padded. with some harness to keep you from bumping into wall. maybe something that you can stand and sit in. eventually simulated movement like universal studios.

But why do I need a safe room? The cheap ass Quest 2 maps out my living room and shows me where obstacles are. It feels identical to walking in real life.

Colmike9 01-29-2023 09:37 AM

It would be a lot different if Oculus or HTC got out of the business, though. Microsoft getting out of VR is the same as Ngage going away then saying all video games are dead because of it..

brassmonkey 01-29-2023 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainstreammix (Post 23090678)
But why do I need a safe room? The cheap ass Quest 2 maps out my living room and shows me where obstacles are. It feels identical to walking in real life.

i don't think its safe. that's my opinion to be in a safe area

CurrentlySober 01-29-2023 10:05 AM



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TheLegacy 01-29-2023 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beavr (Post 23090643)
https://www.sexlikereal.com/ is expanding VR economy for creators, performers and everyone around. It only gets better.

The problem is that legacy companies can't figure out VR. The value proposition is incredible.

Ok - I'm going to ignore what you said because it makes no sense.

have a read on from Forbes magazine on VR headsets

VR Headset Sales Underperform Expectations, What Does It Mean For The Metaverse In 2023?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/qai/2023/01/06/vr-headset-sales-underperform-expectations-what-does-it-mean-for-the-metaverse-in-2023/#:~:text=VR%20headset%20sales%20were%20down%202%25 %20year%2Dover%2Dyear,shipments%20fell%2012%25%20i n%202022.

Key takeaways

VR headset sales were down in 2022, reflecting waning interest in a buggy metaverse.

Even if consumers wanted to engage with this technology, the current price of headsets makes it inaccessible for many Americans.

Several huge companies are releasing new VR headsets this year, including Apple, Meta, HTC and PlayStation. However, these new releases might not be enough to cause a peak in consumer interest like VR headsets experienced in 2021.

VR just isn’t good enough yet

The PS5 was popular in 2021 because the quality of the video gaming experience was phenomenal compared to the metaverse experience.

It’s not just about a lower-quality user experience. The tech is so new that there have been severe delays in getting these headsets to market.

For example, Apple's headset has been much anticipated and was initially expected to hit shelves this month. However, citing delays in software development, the company pushed off the product's launch until the second half of 2023.


Now - I would expect this also from porn and judging by what I've seen over 30 years - as I've said countless of times- there is potential in VR but it's not there yet and users simply don't want to get involved. I hope for the best - but with new technology coming out, VR just maybe a fad or the future. Time will only tell - but you can't say it's here and now.

Colmike9 01-29-2023 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 23090720)
VR just isn’t good enough yet

Good enough for what? I played with one of the first VR headsets ever back in I think 1994 in Chicago's North Pier. I had a great time, and the headsets were much bigger back then and I think each one cost about $500,000.

No one cares about the Metaverse, no one ever did...

beavr 01-29-2023 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 23090720)
have a read on from Forbes magazine on VR headsets


Did not know Forbes is in VR business.

What do I know? I probably should cancel all our big plans for 2023 https://www.sexlikereal.com/blog/396...r-porn-in-2023 after you posted Forbes

TheLegacy 01-29-2023 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beavr (Post 23090738)
Did not know Forbes is in VR business.

What do I know? I probably should cancel all our big plans for 2023 https://www.sexlikereal.com/blog/396...r-porn-in-2023 after you posted Forbes


No need to get snarky since a reputable outlet basically shot you down. If you did some honest reviews and actual read some articles ( Forbes was from Jan 6, 2023 ) then you wouldn't have to wait for me to say anything - you already would have known. Jesus - if you're honestly getting your news from GFY rather than doing your due diligence then maybe you'd be looking honestly at the product instead of misinformation. Yet because it's affecting your bottom line - you'll say anything to avoid criticism.

Fair enough - good luck with your plans in 2023 - hope it's a success for you - ignore the demographics and news reports along with what others say and go full steam ahead - truth be damned.

Colmike9 01-29-2023 12:45 PM

Oculus store passed $1.5bil in revenue this past summer, they'll be fine.

fuzebox 01-29-2023 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 23090753)
a reputable outlet basically shot you down. If you did some honest reviews and actual read some articles ( Forbes was from Jan 6, 2023 )

Forbes.com has been a paid content platform since 2010. 99% of the articles you read there, an independent third party has paid Forbes to publish there. None are vetted or checked for accuracy.

brassmonkey 01-29-2023 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 23090852)
Forbes.com has been a paid content platform since 2010. 99% of the articles you read there, an independent third party has paid Forbes to publish there. None are vetted or checked for accuracy.

accuracy??? they are just like outsourced. new papers do it....

fuzebox 01-29-2023 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 23090855)
accuracy??? they are just like outsourced. new papers do it....

I meant like you, brassmonkey, could apply to be a paid Forbes contributor and pay the fees and now TheLegacy will be citing your articles in future posts.

Forbes is basically funded by gurus and course sellers who publish puff pieces to fake credibility. They don't need to outsource.

brassmonkey 01-29-2023 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 23090865)
I meant like you, brassmonkey, could apply to be a paid Forbes contributor and pay the fees and now TheLegacy will be citing your articles in future posts.

Forbes is basically funded by gurus and course sellers who publish puff pieces to fake credibility. They don't need to outsource.

you think any of the stuff out there is pure facts? most of all of it has holes. because people voice their opinions and beliefs. it's up to the reader to investigate it.

beavr 01-29-2023 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 23090753)
😟.

You so funny gfy oldie

Keep reading the news. You must have no idea how these are made those days. It's all tiktok now lol

The fucker denies reality because he read it in the news lol

TheLegacy 01-30-2023 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beavr (Post 23090905)
You so funny gfy oldie

Keep reading the news. You must have no idea how these are made those days. It's all tiktok now lol

The fucker denies reality because he read it in the news lol

or you deny reality because you refuse to read the news.

nvm - you have something to gain from this so you're not going to give up. It's to your advantage to make posters think VR is a no brainer when in fact multiple threads speak against it but you deny the reality and push your narrative. Being a GFY oldie also means I've learned over the years to spot BS a mile away in addition to know when to just leave something / someone to their own illusion because they simply don't want to accept the truth. Yes I've been around for 30 years part of which is avoiding stuff like this knowing that maybe someday it can be good - I still wish you the best.

MaDalton 01-30-2023 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jane-Busty.pl (Post 23090453)
Flashing lights? Well, no. It's about matching the sight with other impulses coming from human body. Like heart rate, blood pressure, adrenalin level, etc.
Each movement causes them. Unless you're not moving but your eyes provide a movement to your brain. CONFLICT. Then your brain takes it as possible poisoning.
Sight is not just seeing. There's a lot more to it. After you'll read one of those books, your doubts will vanish. :-)

You were wrong 5 years ago and you still are

And some of you can't even tell AR and VR apart

Jane-Busty.pl 01-30-2023 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 23090955)
or you deny reality because you refuse to read the news.

nvm - you have something to gain from this so you're not going to give up. It's to your advantage to make posters think VR is a no brainer when in fact multiple threads speak against it but you deny the reality and push your narrative. Being a GFY oldie also means I've learned over the years to spot BS a mile away in addition to know when to just leave something / someone to their own illusion because they simply don't want to accept the truth. Yes I've been around for 30 years part of which is avoiding stuff like this knowing that maybe someday it can be good - I still wish you the best.

I like what you say and how you express that. The better side of gfy.
BTW. Do you like big boobs? :upsidedow

Jane-Busty.pl 01-30-2023 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 23090956)
You were wrong 5 years ago and you still are

And some of you can't even tell AR and VR apart

You mean 7 years ago. For exactly 7 years you keep saying VR is coming big.
It reminds me of orthodox Jews 3 thousand years ago. "Messiah is coming!" - still waiting...

Would you think in 2016 that you'll have no proof of VR being a mass product in 2023?

VR is already too old to break through. The break thru momentum is over. After countless of tries and billions of $ spent. It will remain a niche.
The reasons for that didn't change, check it out:
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...t-content.html

TheLegacy 01-30-2023 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jane-Busty.pl (Post 23090982)
I like what you say and how you express that. The better side of gfy.
BTW. Do you like big boobs? :upsidedow

This is best question I think I've been asked in a long time - and to answer - yes I do.

I don't think I do any google searches without first including big boobs - even when ordering pizza :)

love the site btw https://www.3wasonnet.com/tour/

MaDalton 01-30-2023 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jane-Busty.pl (Post 23090993)
You mean 7 years ago. For exactly 7 years you keep saying VR is coming big.
It reminds me of orthodox Jews 3 thousand years ago. "Messiah is coming!" - still waiting...

Would you think in 2016 that you'll have no proof of VR being a mass product in 2023?

VR is already too old to break through. The break thru momentum is over. After countless of tries and billions of $ spent. It will remain a niche.
The reasons for that didn't change, check it out:
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...t-content.html

I quit shooting VR in 2017 after producing hundreds of scenes, my ex partner is still doing it.

I do mostly mainstream AR since 2018, so no, I do not claim what you say I claim.

But the nonsense you write about the human brain and so on is still the same nonsense as 7 years ago.


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