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bobawan 02-22-2023 12:59 PM

ChatGPT question
 
I know that it gives the right code on request, but is it possible to generate a fully working structure of the site in this way?

2MuchMark 02-22-2023 02:12 PM

Why not ask it that question?

Darkhorse 02-22-2023 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bobawan (Post 23100461)
I know that it gives the right code on request, but is it possible to generate a fully working structure of the site in this way?

If you know how to ask it, yes.

the_software_dev 02-25-2023 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bobawan (Post 23100461)
I know that it gives the right code on request, but is it possible to generate a fully working structure of the site in this way?

It really depends on the site. Have a look at GitHub Copilot, it uses the very same tech. It's pretty smart once it learns your project, but it has to have a project to begin with.

SharkAttack 02-25-2023 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by the_software_dev (Post 23101769)
It really depends on the site. Have a look at GitHub Copilot, it uses the very same tech. It's pretty smart once it learns your project, but it has to have a project to begin with.

Yes, Copilot is pretty good when the servers are working

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Originally Posted by bobawan (Post 23100461)
I know that it gives the right code on request

That is not entirely correct

wankawonk 02-25-2023 10:13 PM

its already next to impossible to explain exactly what you want to a real human developer. its a back-and-forth iterative process. you'll change your mind about things multiple times. the developer will interpret your instructions different than you expected. getting it right will involve many iterations.

its not going to be any different with chatgpt.

the_software_dev 02-26-2023 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wankawonk (Post 23101873)
its already next to impossible to explain exactly what you want to a real human developer. its a back-and-forth iterative process. you'll change your mind about things multiple times. the developer will interpret your instructions different than you expected. getting it right will involve many iterations.

its not going to be any different with chatgpt.

Pretty much this. Copilot is pretty good because it learns your code base and it makes the correct assumptions & references to other pieces of code that you already have. But I think we're still far away from completely generating working products with AI only. There are some discord servers where people try to do this for the front-end part of a site and it works.. sometimes. For the backend logic though I don't know of anyone who's working on something like this.

MetaCPA 02-26-2023 04:33 AM

I think you can.

Klen 02-26-2023 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by the_software_dev (Post 23101903)
Pretty much this. Copilot is pretty good because it learns your code base and it makes the correct assumptions & references to other pieces of code that you already have. But I think we're still far away from completely generating working products with AI only. There are some discord servers where people try to do this for the front-end part of a site and it works.. sometimes. For the backend logic though I don't know of anyone who's working on something like this.

It depend on complexity on problem and also quality of language. For example what i find annoying in javascript, very often some error would occur, i would do nothing but maybe delete some blank space and then it would work. With languages like PHP there is no such silly errors, every line there have some logic.
So for full AI there should be a language which works on logic and it covers both backend and frontend. Who knows, maybe this will make popular Dot Net language which is capable for that and is much faster then php/js combo, but also suck at documentation which is a reason why it's not more popular.

Parria 02-26-2023 08:12 AM

For a simple site may be fine, however, I would do everything manually

bobawan 02-26-2023 11:30 AM

ty for replies, pals

wankawonk 02-26-2023 01:15 PM

OK, I asked chatgpt whether it can replace programmers. Here's the answer, right from the horse's mouth.

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can chatgpt replace programmers?
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No, ChatGPT cannot replace programmers. While ChatGPT is a powerful language model that can understand and generate human-like text, it is not capable of writing and developing complex software applications.

Programmers are skilled professionals who have expertise in designing, writing, testing, and maintaining software programs. They use their creativity, problem-solving abilities, and technical knowledge to develop applications that meet specific requirements and solve real-world problems. They have a deep understanding of programming languages, algorithms, and data structures, which is something that ChatGPT does not possess.

However, ChatGPT can assist programmers by generating ideas, providing solutions, and offering suggestions that can help them in their work. It can also be used for tasks such as automated code completion, bug detection, and code analysis.

ZTT 02-26-2023 01:42 PM

The "horse" in this case being the programmers that programmed it, jerking off about how rockstar programmers are.

ChatGPT has given me non-working code most of the time, and wrong answers even to questions it knows the answer to.

Ie, I ask it something, it gives a bunch of wrong answers, always stated with 200% confidence, finally stating what I want is impossible, then when told how it's done, states yes, that's how it's done and explains it in a way that shows it knew all along.

It's extremely easy to use, but mostly just a huge waste of time.

the_software_dev 02-27-2023 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23101921)
It depend on complexity on problem and also quality of language. For example what i find annoying in javascript, very often some error would occur, i would do nothing but maybe delete some blank space and then it would work. With languages like PHP there is no such silly errors, every line there have some logic.
So for full AI there should be a language which works on logic and it covers both backend and frontend. Who knows, maybe this will make popular Dot Net language which is capable for that and is much faster then php/js combo, but also suck at documentation which is a reason why it's not more popular.

Models such as chatGPT don't care about the language. It's built to adapt to your code and language, based on other code that was previously written in that language. Also we have software these days (not AI-based) that can correct your code in almost every language, so in theory chatGPT can already bypass syntax errors.

AmeliaG 03-02-2023 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23101921)
It depend on complexity on problem and also quality of language. For example what i find annoying in javascript, very often some error would occur, i would do nothing but maybe delete some blank space and then it would work. With languages like PHP there is no such silly errors, every line there have some logic.
So for full AI there should be a language which works on logic and it covers both backend and frontend. Who knows, maybe this will make popular Dot Net language which is capable for that and is much faster then php/js combo, but also suck at documentation which is a reason why it's not more popular.


Interesting thought. ChatGPT is less creative than some AI, so its ffavorite coding language is just whatever it has trained on most.

I think you have a very interesting idea for more creative AI, in that AI could approach problems from more directions at once, so very different languages might appeal to it most.

fastball 03-04-2023 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bobawan (Post 23100461)
I know that it gives the right code on request, but is it possible to generate a fully working structure of the site in this way?

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